2021-2022 Recruiting

[fredthefalcon]

Curtis definitely would be one of our top 3 players in the coming season if he doesn't have to sit out. That is a big, big IF. Mills could start in a 3 Guard lineup with Fields and Metheny or be early off the bench. Gordon is a scorer but likely middle of the road from 3 point land and does not rebound or facilitate well. Might get a start if Diggs is the 6th man again but would be there for 2 point scoring more than anything else. He must be a slasher based on his stats more than a pure shooter.

Curtis only averaged 10 pts a game. Gordon and Mills averaged much more.

It's not just about raw averages. I really don't know these guys beyond the stats posted in this thread. But there's team composition and minutes played. Pace of the team. etc... to consider. Like, if Curtis played for US last season, he likely would have been the 4th option behind Juice, Plowden and Diggs. That doesn't make him a bad player, or worse than the other two incoming guards.

It's also about where you played and competition. In last year's Kenpom ratings. Samford was ranked 321 of 353 teams, Binghamton was 333, and Evansville was 294. For comparison BG was 167 just one slot down from an Ohio team that pulled a first round NCAA upset. The MVC is a tougher league than the ones Samford and Binghamton play in as likely is the MAC. Curtis shot 42% from 3 which is better than anyone else on the roster, granted Mills shot 40% but Curtis also had the best Assist/TO ratio of 1.56 of the three and what would be only second to Fields in returning players. Curtis out assisted Fields in total by 20. Curtis also out rebounded the other transfers as well. To me he's a much better rounded player than anyone save Plowden and perhaps Diggs on next year's team.

[Diemilkweed]

Way to bring the receipts. Nice work.

[Globetrotter]

I'm not going to bash a player who isn't even here yet to try to win a conversation. I hope he is great. If you watch the tape I am the 3rd most excited about him of the group.

[Globetrotter]

Curtis definitely would be one of our top 3 players in the coming season if he doesn't have to sit out. That is a big, big IF. Mills could start in a 3 Guard lineup with Fields and Metheny or be early off the bench. Gordon is a scorer but likely middle of the road from 3 point land and does not rebound or facilitate well. Might get a start if Diggs is the 6th man again but would be there for 2 point scoring more than anything else. He must be a slasher based on his stats more than a pure shooter.

Curtis only averaged 10 pts a game. Gordon and Mills averaged much more.

It's not just about raw averages. I really don't know these guys beyond the stats posted in this thread. But there's team composition and minutes played. Pace of the team. etc... to consider. Like, if Curtis played for US last season, he likely would have been the 4th option behind Juice, Plowden and Diggs. That doesn't make him a bad player, or worse than the other two incoming guards.

It's also about where you played and competition. In last year's Kenpom ratings. Samford was ranked 321 of 353 teams, Binghamton was 333, and Evansville was 294. For comparison BG was 167 just one slot down from an Ohio team that pulled a first round NCAA upset. The MVC is a tougher league than the ones Samford and Binghamton play in as likely is the MAC. Curtis shot 42% from 3 which is better than anyone else on the roster, granted Mills shot 40% but Curtis also had the best Assist/TO ratio of 1.56 of the three and what would be only second to Fields in returning players. Curtis out assisted Fields in total by 20. Curtis also out rebounded the other transfers as well. To me he's a much better rounded player than anyone save Plowden and perhaps Diggs on next year's team.

I think that you might be going off incorrect stats.

Curtis averaged 38% from 3 not 42%
Curtis had 11 assists and 27 turnovers. That's not a 1.56 ratio. That's terrible
Mills had 30-35
Morgan had 17-17
Fields 55-28
Metheny 50-37

Morgan had 3.2 rebounds per game, Mills and Curtis had 2.4 each

[fredthefalcon]

Curtis definitely would be one of our top 3 players in the coming season if he doesn't have to sit out. That is a big, big IF. Mills could start in a 3 Guard lineup with Fields and Metheny or be early off the bench. Gordon is a scorer but likely middle of the road from 3 point land and does not rebound or facilitate well. Might get a start if Diggs is the 6th man again but would be there for 2 point scoring more than anything else. He must be a slasher based on his stats more than a pure shooter.

Curtis only averaged 10 pts a game. Gordon and Mills averaged much more.

It's not just about raw averages. I really don't know these guys beyond the stats posted in this thread. But there's team composition and minutes played. Pace of the team. etc... to consider. Like, if Curtis played for US last season, he likely would have been the 4th option behind Juice, Plowden and Diggs. That doesn't make him a bad player, or worse than the other two incoming guards.

It's also about where you played and competition. In last year's Kenpom ratings. Samford was ranked 321 of 353 teams, Binghamton was 333, and Evansville was 294. For comparison BG was 167 just one slot down from an Ohio team that pulled a first round NCAA upset. The MVC is a tougher league than the ones Samford and Binghamton play in as likely is the MAC. Curtis shot 42% from 3 which is better than anyone else on the roster, granted Mills shot 40% but Curtis also had the best Assist/TO ratio of 1.56 of the three and what would be only second to Fields in returning players. Curtis out assisted Fields in total by 20. Curtis also out rebounded the other transfers as well. To me he's a much better rounded player than anyone save Plowden and perhaps Diggs on next year's team.

I think that you might be going off incorrect stats.

Curtis averaged 38% from 3 not 42%
Curtis had 11 assists and 27 turnovers. That's not a 1.56 ratio. That's terrible
Mills had 30-35
Morgan had 17-17
Fields 55-28
Metheny 50-37

Morgan had 3.2 rebounds per game, Mills and Curtis had 2.4 each

I apologize Globe. I went back and doublechecked the numbers at Evansville and I cannot find where I got those numbers. I wrote them down from somewhere on somebody but nobody on the Evansville roster has the exact numbers I showed. Now Huger only has to find that unknown player who has those numbers and recruit him.

[Globetrotter]

Curtis definitely would be one of our top 3 players in the coming season if he doesn't have to sit out. That is a big, big IF. Mills could start in a 3 Guard lineup with Fields and Metheny or be early off the bench. Gordon is a scorer but likely middle of the road from 3 point land and does not rebound or facilitate well. Might get a start if Diggs is the 6th man again but would be there for 2 point scoring more than anything else. He must be a slasher based on his stats more than a pure shooter.

Curtis only averaged 10 pts a game. Gordon and Mills averaged much more.

It's not just about raw averages. I really don't know these guys beyond the stats posted in this thread. But there's team composition and minutes played. Pace of the team. etc... to consider. Like, if Curtis played for US last season, he likely would have been the 4th option behind Juice, Plowden and Diggs. That doesn't make him a bad player, or worse than the other two incoming guards.

It's also about where you played and competition. In last year's Kenpom ratings. Samford was ranked 321 of 353 teams, Binghamton was 333, and Evansville was 294. For comparison BG was 167 just one slot down from an Ohio team that pulled a first round NCAA upset. The MVC is a tougher league than the ones Samford and Binghamton play in as likely is the MAC. Curtis shot 42% from 3 which is better than anyone else on the roster, granted Mills shot 40% but Curtis also had the best Assist/TO ratio of 1.56 of the three and what would be only second to Fields in returning players. Curtis out assisted Fields in total by 20. Curtis also out rebounded the other transfers as well. To me he's a much better rounded player than anyone save Plowden and perhaps Diggs on next year's team.

I think that you might be going off incorrect stats.

Curtis averaged 38% from 3 not 42%
Curtis had 11 assists and 27 turnovers. That's not a 1.56 ratio. That's terrible
Mills had 30-35
Morgan had 17-17
Fields 55-28
Metheny 50-37

Morgan had 3.2 rebounds per game, Mills and Curtis had 2.4 each

I apologize Globe. I went back and doublechecked the numbers at Evansville and I cannot find where I got those numbers. I wrote them down from somewhere on somebody but nobody on the Evansville roster has the exact numbers I showed. Now Huger only has to find that unknown player who has those numbers and recruit him.

No worries, they don't make the stats easy to read. In looking back I was surprised he never started a game. Seems crazy.

I still love the fact that we got 3 transfers who averaged over 10 pts a game at their schools. That's an incredible get. Now we just need one who is a bit taller.

[BillyLP]

A couple of new transfers in the portal I could see being an addition (if Huger chooses to add one more body).

Chris Vogt - 7'1" C from Cincinnati by way of Northern Kentucky. Grad transfer who averaged 5pts 3.5 rbs and 1.1 blks after averaging 11 pts and 5.9 the year before. Probably more likely to go to a bigger school, but you never know.

Olisa Ngonadi - 6'8" PF from Robert Morris. Didn't really play much but has some athleticism and is a cousin to former BG glue guy Jeff Uju.

[Globetrotter]

A couple of new transfers in the portal I could see being an addition (if Huger chooses to add one more body).

Chris Vogt - 7'1" C from Cincinnati by way of Northern Kentucky. Grad transfer who averaged 5pts 3.5 rbs and 1.1 blks after averaging 11 pts and 5.9 the year before. Probably more likely to go to a bigger school, but you never know.

Olisa Ngonadi - 6'8" PF from Robert Morris. Didn't really play much but has some athleticism and is a cousin to former BG glue guy Jeff Uju.

Olisa---He is in a dunk contest here. At about a minute he does a very plain dunk and the crowd reacts hilariously.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGAVIEhuN-A

[Globetrotter]

https://pittsburghsportsnow.com/2019/05 ... is-family/
Looks like a super high upside guy who may never amount to anything or the light comes on with more basketball.

“I knew I wasn’t a scorer. I’m the one who does all the dirty work; the one who rebounds, blocks shots, takes elbows for offensive boards and sprints the floor.”

[BillyLP]

https://pittsburghsportsnow.com/2019/05 ... is-family/
Looks like a super high upside guy who may never amount to anything or the light comes on with more basketball.

“I knew I wasn’t a scorer. I’m the one who does all the dirty work; the one who rebounds, blocks shots, takes elbows for offensive boards and sprints the floor.”

I kinda love that quote. Knows his limitations and what he can provide. Does the things to make a team better that don't show up on stat sheets. It's hard to come by players who think that way.

[BleedOrange]

https://pittsburghsportsnow.com/2019/05 ... is-family/
Looks like a super high upside guy who may never amount to anything or the light comes on with more basketball.

“I knew I wasn’t a scorer. I’m the one who does all the dirty work; the one who rebounds, blocks shots, takes elbows for offensive boards and sprints the floor.”

I kinda love that quote. Knows his limitations and what he can provide. Does the things to make a team better that don't show up on stat sheets. It's hard to come by players who think that way.

This is a good description of Germain Fitch, who was one of the best players I've seen at BG and one of my favorite all-time Falcons.

[Diemilkweed]

A couple of new transfers in the portal I could see being an addition (if Huger chooses to add one more body).

Chris Vogt - 7'1" C from Cincinnati by way of Northern Kentucky. Grad transfer who averaged 5pts 3.5 rbs and 1.1 blks after averaging 11 pts and 5.9 the year before. Probably more likely to go to a bigger school, but you never know.

Olisa Ngonadi - 6'8" PF from Robert Morris. Didn't really play much but has some athleticism and is a cousin to former BG glue guy Jeff Uju.

Olisa---He is in a dunk contest here. At about a minute he does a very plain dunk and the crowd reacts hilariously.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGAVIEhuN-A

Well, he did manage to get up high enough that the rim was in the middle of his forearms - with his arms slightly bent, and without much effort.

He'd at LEAST be a significant roll threat in the PnR.

[Globetrotter]

One of our 2021 Class offers signed with Farleigh Dickinson, Anquan Hill.

Another, Corey Tripp-Signed with Wofford

[BleedOrange]

Here are the bgsufalcons.com writeups for Myron Gordan and Samari Curtis....for you relatively normal people who do not obsessively check the site every day like I do.

https://bgsufalcons.com/news/2021/4/22/ ... tball.aspx

https://bgsufalcons.com/news/2021/4/20/ ... urtis.aspx

[Globetrotter]

3 EJ Onu-Shawnee St Sr 6-11 http://www.ssubears.com/roster/35/12/5216.php (He declared for the NBA Draft but did not get an agent)

So this guy is by far the most interesting. He likely is beyond us but there is a very good argument for him to come here. Richaun Holmes made it through us, we have a gaping hole at C, an otherwise veteran team with 5 Seniors, 2-3 great shooters to give him space to be nasty. You see these types of guys to go OSU type places and never amount to anything because they are fighting for playing time. He is from Ohio playing at Shawnee State and High School at Richmond State.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xijdzhi ... e=emb_logo

Will probably have to wait until the NBA draft is over and it's not likely he signs with us anyway but he would be absolutely ideal.