2021-2022 Recruiting

[Diemilkweed]

Ponderings...

1. O'Neal comes in as a 4th year senior. Does he get 2 years of eligibility at BG?
2. Reece also comes in as a 4th year senior. Does he get 2 years of eligibility at BG?
3. Curtis has already used a redshirt year. Is he immediately eligible?

I can come up with a half-arsed opinion just as easily as any of you. If you know something for a F.A.C.T., please respond.

Why so hostile?

Dude, you can disagre without being disagreeable.

Telling someone they got the depth chart wrong is not teh same as saying you disagree with it. It makes YOUR version the CORRECT one and everything else wrong.

You are sticking out as decidedly unpleasant in an otherwise pretty pleasant forum.

[BleedOrange]

Ponderings...

1. O'Neal comes in as a 4th year senior. Does he get 2 years of eligibility at BG?
2. Reece also comes in as a 4th year senior. Does he get 2 years of eligibility at BG?
3. Curtis has already used a redshirt year. Is he immediately eligible?

I can come up with a half-arsed opinion just as easily as any of you. If you know something for a F.A.C.T., please respond.

Why so hostile?

Dude, you can disagre without being disagreeable.

Telling someone they got the depth chart wrong is not teh same as saying you disagree with it. It makes YOUR version the CORRECT one and everything else wrong.

You are sticking out as decidedly unpleasant in an otherwise pretty pleasant forum.

Read my stuff in a sarcastic tone - then you'll appreciate it.

Hold it, you're the one named "Diemilkweed"!

[BleedOrange]

I've never seen a college bball team that is legitimately 14-15 players deep, but we will be in 2021-2.

[BillyLP]

Looks like Steve Wright was Gabe O’Neal’s high school or AAU coach. He has been an awesome addition to the staff. Seems to up the game in recruiting a bit.

[Falconwriter]

Ponderings...

1. O'Neal comes in as a 4th year senior. Does he get 2 years of eligibility at BG?
2. Reece also comes in as a 4th year senior. Does he get 2 years of eligibility at BG?
3. Curtis has already used a redshirt year. Is he immediately eligible?

I can come up with a half-arsed opinion just as easily as any of you. If you know something for a F.A.C.T., please respond.

Curtis needs a waiver due his previous transfers. Couldn't tell you on the other two.

Does anyone need a waiver, anymore starting this coming season? I thought the NCAA passed (or is set to pass) the one-time, no sitting required, transfer rule. I would have to believe they will simply start everyone over, giving them one transfer without having to sit, rather than try to figure out who has transferred in the past and would not qualify. I'm sure if I have this incorrect, someone will say so.

[Globetrotter]

Ponderings...

1. O'Neal comes in as a 4th year senior. Does he get 2 years of eligibility at BG?
2. Reece also comes in as a 4th year senior. Does he get 2 years of eligibility at BG?
3. Curtis has already used a redshirt year. Is he immediately eligible?

I can come up with a half-arsed opinion just as easily as any of you. If you know something for a F.A.C.T., please respond.

Curtis needs a waiver due his previous transfers. Couldn't tell you on the other two.

Does anyone need a waiver, anymore starting this coming season? I thought the NCAA passed (or is set to pass) the one-time, no sitting required, transfer rule. I would have to believe they will simply start everyone over, giving them one transfer without having to sit, rather than try to figure out who has transferred in the past and would not qualify. I'm sure if I have this incorrect, someone will say so.

I think transferring twice is an issue. Not sure if it counts for jucos

[OSUFALCON]

I wonder if the newcomers could beat the returnees in a scrimmage.

I would bet would be on the newcomers. I’ll give the current roster + 4 points.

[guest44]

Steve Wright has been the biggest addition to the program in years. The old fashioned way of doing things involves recruiting, developing, and watching them transfer out. Treat it like free agency and improve the roster with transfers yearly.

Meanwhile, the football program is trying to go back in time. Develop and cry when they leave. The real players leaving as soon as a better option becomes available. Adapt or get fired. BG basketball is choosing to adapt. Thank you Steve Wright.

[Diemilkweed]

I wonder if the newcomers could beat the returnees in a scrimmage.

I would bet would be on the newcomers. I’ll give the current roster + 4 points.

Juice took so much of the offense on himself, that I am not sure our guards could possibly have showed what they have. And to a lesser extent the other players on the team were also affected. I am convinced that Fields definitely has more to give than he has shown - and aside from being a bit out of control, I think Matheney did, too.

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Returning
PG Fields
SG Matheney / Fulcher
SF Diggs
PF Plowden
C Turner / Kula / Swingle

New (note: 1 - 3 could basically interchange here)
PG Gordon
SG Mills
SF Curtis
PF Reece
C O'neal / Etim

Advantage

PG - New. Probably. But Gordon wasn't terribly efficient and may only have better numbers from not have someone like Juice on his team

SG - probably new - mostly due to experience and that sweet 40% 3-pt shooting

SF - returners. I'll take the larger, more experienced player who put up stats even with a dominant scorer on the team

PF - Plowden by a country mile

C - Man, I don't actually know. This depends so much on Turner accepting being a big and Kula being healthy.

The NEW team having only 6 players is a huge bonus for the returners. But let's assume we don't worry about fouling out - just give a tech FT and move on after 5 fouls on a player. And then ALSO assume 10 minute quarters with 10 minutes between so rest isn't an issue.

Thing is, even with that, I like the returners., In part because O'neal is one of the few post players that Swingle might actually be effective against. Also, the only New guy likely to be showing significant improvement is maybe Curtis - although he's older than is soph standing would make you think, so maybe not. Meanwhile, our three young true freshman last year should all be significantly improved.

OTOH, the simple fact these guys came from other programs might mean they got real coaching and know how to run a real offense, so they might smoke the returners.

[Diemilkweed]

Jesus - looking at that reminds of me HS athletics where sometimes the cross country or track teams would be so deep that we would split into two and go to different meets at the same time and be highly competitive in both. We could actually field two entirely different and yet effective teams at the same time.

Damn.

If we don't break this damn tourney draught next year I ... I am NOT going to pull my hair out in frustration. I am going to BG and pulling out Huger's hair. And also Moose's. One by one. With an individual piece of salt applied to each freshly plucked follicle.

[BleedOrange]

Plowden is the only obvious starter on the whole team.

None of our returning guards are pure PGs. Fulcher might end up at the point. These are the 1-4 starters that I speculate on:

PG: Fulcher
2G: Mills - elite shooter
2G: Curtis
F: Plowden

I pick Fulcher because of his overall talent advantage over Metheny and Fields.

The 5th spot is wide wide WIDE open. We could go small and start Cam Young. That wouldn't surprise me at all. Reece and O'Neal are obvious contenders, as is Kula if he can stay healthy.

[Diemilkweed]

I'd be really inclined to start Diggs and Plowden. In part because of their familiarity with each other. Also because it would be nice to have some size on the wing since it looks like our center will still be undersized but at least useful.

For the guards and center spot I would likely start whoever kicked the most butt in practice that week.

[BleedOrange]

It's May and I'm already experiencing anxiety about how we're going to get all these guys minutes. Imagine if Emit is a plug-and-play freshman and Swingle makes big strides. That will 15 guys for 200 minutes per game.

[fredthefalcon]

Michael Jefferson who was one of our last of the 2021 offerees has decided to go JUCO to a Florida school. Verbal Commits noted our first known 2022 offer to 6'0" PG Tavari Johnson from LaGrange, Illinois. Just started getting offers and has others from NIU, Buffalo and Cleve. State.

[BGSU33]

If we don't break this damn tourney draught next year I ... I am NOT going to pull my hair out in frustration. I am going to BG and pulling out Huger's hair. And also Moose's. One by one. With an individual piece of salt applied to each freshly plucked follicle.

Well, you may as well go ahead and just do it now then, because BG isn't breaking any drought next year. It's not gonna happen. I'm done holding out hope or believing that it could happen, because it's a huge waste of time and energy. For close to 30 years I've held onto that nonsense, only to get smacked in the face by reality every single year. BG is the only school in the MAC to never win the MAC Tournament. That is a fact. The tournament has been around since 1980, over 40 years now, and BG is still looking for its first championship. BG simply cannot win three games in Cleveland, or Toledo, or Columbus, or Detroit, or Rockford, or Ann Arbor, or even in Bowling Green for that matter (when we hosted the tournament) to win tournament. While I would love nothing more in all of sports than to see BG accomplished what all of our MAC peers have done, and some have done as many as 7 times, I've exhausted any sort of hope awhile ago. That said, while I do think BG "should" have a good team next year and I do like the looks of it on paper thus far, it's not going to be enough to beat Ohio in the MAC Tournament anyway. Preston will be pulling his name out of the NBA draft next month (he's getting a draft grade like Turner did last year), BVB and Wilson are both returning, and oh yeah, Jason Carter is transferring back to Ohio from Xavier, plus they return of almost everyone else. That is a program that has proven over and over and over again - seven times to be exact (tied for the most ever) - how to win a MAC Tournament to advance to the NCAA Tournament. BG is a program that "hopes" to win a MAC Tournament. Ohio is a program that "does" win the MAC Tournament. And that's a massive difference.