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For being so anti-transfer, Loeffler has done a pretty nice job in the transfer portal this offseason. That's three P5 transfers who were pretty high-level recruits in the last three weeks.
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BillyLP wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 10:17 am For being so anti-transfer, Loeffler has done a pretty nice job in the transfer portal this offseason. That's three P5 transfers who were pretty high-level recruits in the last three weeks.
These look like great additions on paper. Great to see.
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BillyLP wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 10:17 am For being so anti-transfer, Loeffler has done a pretty nice job in the transfer portal this offseason. That's three P5 transfers who were pretty high-level recruits in the last three weeks.

I don't believe he was anti-transfer. He was anti-grad transfer with one year remaining. One time transfer rule changed his mindset.
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Loeffler said he would take transfers if they made sense, but not at the expense of developing freshmen to seniors. Seems he is honoring that philosophy.
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The concept of the "transfer" has changed drastically from when Loeffler was hired to today...
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I think the “win now” methodology that he would not use, was to go get 4-5 JC transfers per year, VS. HS recruits. You could fill in glaring holes and field a decent team. Downside is: #1 they are in a JC for a reason ( with long rap sheet or 1.2 GPA) , and #2 a few years later, you are still at square 1. See Terry Bowden. I will take a few young, veteran (perhaps overrated HS recruits) with years left, every season. Maybe catch lighting with a fresh start?
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BGSU33 wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:25 pm
fanatic13 wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:56 pm How many starters have transferred out this offseason? Not trying to criticize but lost count over time
Let's put it this way, in a year where EVERY team can return EVERY starter because EVERY player gets essentially a free year, as of today (and we know more defections are coming), BG is only returning 3 starters on offense and 7 on defense. That is putrid. That's only 10 starters returning from a possible 22 allowed, which is extremely low nationally. And a large number of those guys leaving are doing so via transferring (8 of the 12 starters lost have transferred). As of right now, BG has lost 4 starters on offense via transfer (Clair, Stage, Ortega-Jones and Ware), 4 starters on defense via transfer (Roberts, Coleman, Biggers and Walder), 4 offensive starters who decided not to return (Morris, Tanner-Blair, Downs and Motes), and several players who played that either transferred or decided not to return on both offense (Denley, Massey, etc) and defense (Johnson-Mack, Redding, Rahmaan, etc).

I saw a figure last week that showed a large number of schools that will be returning nearly every starter (a bunch of schools were listed at 20 or more), which obviously means almost everyone is going to return for them. There were a ton of schools in the 17-20 range as well. Returning starter records are being blown out of the water nationally. Then there is BG, who is way, way, way behind the national average. And unlike a lot of others schools that lost starters who transferred, many of those schools replaced those guys by bringing in transfers who started at other schools themselves in return. But BG is not, and can not. We are simply getting bombarded.
The one thing we can offer is playing time. A bunch of players who thought they were going to start suddenly had that pulled out from under them. We should benefit from this because that player may want to leave for PT they expected that is now gone. We haven't
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BGSU33 wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:44 pm Of our current 88 players (until more leave), 65 of those 88 are FRESHMEN!!! That means 74% of our entire team are freshmen!!! That is mind-boggling! I have never, ever seen anything like this. We have 4, I repeat, 4 seniors now, and 3 of those 4 seniors are on special teams (a kicker, a punter and a snapper). Jerry McBride is our lone senior position player. I repeat, we have 1 senior positions player. This roster rivals what you would see if a plane crash wiped out a team and they had to start over from scratch. And I'm not trying to be funny by saying that, it's true. And keep in mind, this is happening in a time where players are allowed a free extra year, and we're still looking like this. It's truly incredible.

This is how the current roster is broken down by class, including walk-ons.

88 - Total Players
45 - Freshmen
20 - Redshirt Freshman
7 - Sophomores
12 - Juniors
4 - Seniors
I have it as 108 players 85 of which are Freshman, 2nd year Freshman or Redshirt Freshman.

This team would be perfect for a netflix show.
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This look right? Probably some transfers in there.

QB McDonald 6-3 210 Jr(r) Gunther 6-3 220 Fr(r) Keller 6-1 215 Fr Sparks 6-5 220 Fr Melton 6-2 215 Fr Davis 6-3 207 Fr(r)
RB Stewart 5-9 216 Fr Raymore 5-10 240 Fr(r) Keith 5-10 185 Fr Wimberly 5-10 175 Fr(r) Patterson 6-0 205 R Mosley 5-10 200 R
WR Broden 6-4 185 Fr(r) Croom 6-0 190 Jr(r) Cook 6-1 165 Fr(r) Kilbride 6-3 200 Fr Johnson 5-10 188 R
WR Kinsey 6-5 205 Fr Embry 6-0 180 Fr Niehoff 6-2 180 Fr(r) Hoskins 5-10 170 Fr Smith 6-1 183 R
WR Osborne 6-2 So Rogers 5-9 185 So Lakatos 5-8 163 Fr Johnson 5-11 195 R
TE Sims 6-4 225 So Gujardo Fr Gazarek 6-5 245 Fr Little 6-4 236 Fr Bench 6-3 255 Fr Russell 6-3 230 R McKinstry 6-5 210 R Boyer 6-3 220 Fr
LT Banks-Wall 6-5 280 Fr O'Brian 6-5 293 So(r) Adler 6-3 325 Fr(r) Padgett 6-6 320 R
LG Kilbane 6-3 310 Fr Harmon 6-4 270 Fr(r) VanGorder 6-3 285 Fr
C Grant 6-3 290 Fr Fortner 6-3 295 Fr Downs 6-8 305 Jr(r) Spires 6-2 235 Fr(r)
RG Neverov 6-6 317 Jr(r) Brown 6-3 325 Fr Hildebrand 6-3 345 R Hicks 6-4 240 R
RT Wollschlaeger 6-7 280 Fr Carroll 6-6 265 Fr(r) Lyons 6-3 327 Fr Zimmerly 6-1 265 R

K Needham 6-1 199 Sr(r) Sauder 5-10 169 Fr Kerekes 6'5 R
P Naranjo 5-10 196 Sr(r) 5
LS Carolan 5-11 200 Sr Sears 6-3 235 Fr

LE Brooks 6-4 280 Jr Porter 6-4 255 Fr Wilson 6-5 237 Fr Whatton 6-4 240 R
DT Hawkins 6-2 302 Fr Roberts 6-5 301 Fr Oliver 6-4 297 So Saad 6-4 260 Fr
DT Haire 6-3 275 Jr(r) Brown 6-3 285 Fr Kelly 6-2 250 R Warren 6-3 310 R
DE Murphy 6-4 275 Jr(r) Henderson 6-4 285 Fr(r) Wardzala 6-0 252 Fr Pabst 6-5 255 R Howell 6-4 220 R
OLB Horne 6-1 229 Fr(r) Washington 6-0 228 Fr Lawson 6-0 215 R Spiess 6-2 230 Fr(r) Miller 6-1 224 Fr(r) Woods 6-2 220 Fr
MLB Anders 6-0 235 So Rosser 6-3 220 Fr Neri 6-2 225 R Williams 6-2 234 Fr Hardamon 6-4 235 Fr
OLB Howell 6-4 220 R Brown 5-10 212 Jr(r) Schiets 5-11 230 Fr(r) Brown 6-2 220 Fr Coleman 6-0 233 Sr
S Anderson 5-10 195 So Daniels 5-10 187 Fr(r) Venson 5-11 175 Fr Burns 6-0 185 Jr(r) Sims 6-1 195 R
S Dabney 6-0 210 Jr(r) Ferguson 5-10 178 Jr Simms 6-0 207 Fr McGary 6-2 185 Fr(r) Jones 6-2 173 R
CB Sheppard 5-11 181 Fr Day 5-11 185 Fr(r) Burton 5-10 184 R
CB Williamson 5-10 172 Fr Jones 5-11 179 Fr Jones 6-2 173 R
CB Mitchell 6-1 195 Jr(r) Eberhardt 5-10 173 Fr Kordas 6-1 190 R
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Just thought to myself..... what happens in 4 years when you lose maybe 60 players in one year to graduation/eligibility.....???
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roguewarrior wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 3:26 pm Just thought to myself..... what happens in 4 years when you lose maybe 60 players in one year to graduation/eligibility.....???
Can't imagine a staff with as much college experience as the current one would allow that to happen...

Reasonable to expect the number won't be anywhere near 60. Some guys will eventually get redshirted. Others will transfer out (inevitable). Some will simply not return to school due to academics or other personal situations.
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jpfalcon09 wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 3:34 pm
roguewarrior wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 3:26 pm Just thought to myself..... what happens in 4 years when you lose maybe 60 players in one year to graduation/eligibility.....???
Can't imagine a staff with as much college experience as the current one would allow that to happen...

Reasonable to expect the number won't be anywhere near 60. Some guys will eventually get redshirted. Others will transfer out (inevitable). Some will simply not return to school due to academics or other personal situations.
In a sense that's 3 separate classes so it would be about 28 a year.
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Eligibility is eligibility, so class doesn’t matter. And not everyone gets red shirted, who doesn’t play. To your point, that is why it is deceiving stating how young we are….. some freshman eligible are in their third camp…..
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RS JR DB Cedric Mitchell to portal
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