Offseason Thread

[Falconwriter]

Augustana University in Sioux Falls, SD announces they will at some point in the future announce they have a D1 hockey team.

https://goaugie.com/news/2021/6/16/gene ... ockey.aspx

I suppose the CCHA would have to consider them, but it sure would be nice if the CCHA could trade a couple of the western teams to the NCHC for Miami and Western Michigan.

Miami isn't going to leave the NCHC unless they get kicked out. They see themselves as having a better program than anyone in the CCHA, and I'm not so sure Western doesn't have the same (ridiculous) point of view. I'd rather have Western come into the CCHA than Miami, but I don't expect either to change.

[TalonsUpPuckDown]

Augustana University in Sioux Falls, SD announces they will at some point in the future announce they have a D1 hockey team.

https://goaugie.com/news/2021/6/16/gene ... ockey.aspx

I suppose the CCHA would have to consider them, but it sure would be nice if the CCHA could trade a couple of the western teams to the NCHC for Miami and Western Michigan.

Miami isn't going to leave the NCHC unless they get kicked out. They see themselves as having a better program than anyone in the CCHA, and I'm not so sure Western doesn't have the same (ridiculous) point of view. I'd rather have Western come into the CCHA than Miami, but I don't expect either to change.

My opinion—Western is in better shape than Miami State; neither are in as good a shape as Denver, St. Cloud, Duluth, or Nodak. There’s now enough historical data to break the Nachos into a few tiers:

Top Tier: Nodak, St. Cloud, Denver, Duluth
Middle Tier: Western, Omaha
Tweener Tier: Miami State
Bottom Tier: CC

Over time you’ll see a team move from one tier to another for a season or two before regressing to the mean. The days of Miami State being a perennial NCAA tourney team are long gone. Sorry Berge, Barry, and Jimmy, your palace isn’t as good as the Ralph.

Neither of those MAC schools is ever leaving. Never, ever.

[pdt1081]

...I'm not so sure Western doesn't have the same (ridiculous) point of view. I'd rather have Western come into the CCHA than Miami, but I don't expect either to change.

Western did just get that $550M donation, with supposedly $50M being for athletics. Depending on how that money is allocated/spent, it could drastically change their whole athletic department.

[TommyG]

Miami has the potential to be championship contender in that league…Good facility, campus, a fairly recent string of national success. Biggest hurdle is strong competition….makes it tough to get the program back on track. Bergeron was able to do it here to some degree because he went from a good conference to a mediocre one. I don’t see Miami being anything better than middle of the pack with Bergeron.
Western has a better coach, but campus and facility are mediocre. They have a lower ceiling but coaching gives them a higher floor.

[TalonsUpPuckDown]

Miami's facilities, when compared with the rest of the Nachos (except for Western), are not a differentiator. Baxter? Magness? Amsoil? Brooks? The Ralph? All are equal to or better than Goggin. Miami beats Western on the actual facility, but as far as game day experience NFW is Miami even in the conversation with Western. I've been to both multiple times, Lawson is my favorite away game bar none. Put Miami in the CCHA and their facilities make them a contender. In Nacholand it's simply the price of a general admission ticket.

As for recruiting, Berge and Barry are getting better BG-type guys than we are, but they're not getting the same caliber of players that Sandelin is getting (well, according to Heisenberg, that is). Kids going to the Nachos are looking to land an NHL gig and are evaluating how coaches will develop them. So not only are Berge and Barry competing against Sandelin, Larson, and Barry for recruits, they're competing against York, Pearson, Motzko, Carvel, etc.

Anything is possible but Miami State supplanting one of the big four Nacho programs on a consistent basis remains to be seen. I have my doubts, but time will tell I guess. Have to agree they're a long-term middle-of-the-pack program though not sure I agree with how you see their potential.

[TommyG]

We basically agree…I think Miami’s campus and facility would be a positive with almost any recruit. Agreed it isn’t NoDak, but it is a nice arena in the middle of a beautiful campus. Oxford isn’t a great location but it isn’t terrible either. If they had a better coach, I think they could be in the mix most years to be one of the top 4-5 teams in that conference. Bergeron might get them to around .500 but that’s going to be about it.

[TalonsUpPuckDown]

Just saw that 1984 Hobey Baker Award winner and Minnesota Duluth defenseman Tom Kurvers passed away.

[jpfalcon09]

Couple non-BG updates:

Atlantic Hockey is going to discuss bringing on UAH at their next meeting. IMO, easy decision given the fiasco at Robert Morris. Hope the Chargers can find a home for their program to survive.

Tennessee State is beginning it's feasibility study this week for a D1 hockey program, and would be the first all-black college to have one. Results will be presented to their board sometime in the Fall.

[TalonsUpPuckDown]

CHN is out with rosters, obviously not official. Heisenberg has Keighan Gerrie as a scratch. A lot of minutes will go to freshmen this year.

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/repor ... g-Green/11

[pdt1081]

CHN is out with rosters, obviously not official. Heisenberg has Keighan Gerrie as a scratch. A lot of minutes will go to freshmen this year.

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/repor ... g-Green/11

Keighan Gerrie is an interesting one. He has nothing on his Twitter about being committed anywhere. And then there is this: https://www.nanaimoclippers.com/nanaimo ... han-gerrie

Chicoine should be a Senior with 2 years of eligibility left. He played 3 with Norwich.

I'm pretty sure in one of Ty's interviews he said there were 4 freshman forwards coming in this season. Brayden Krieger and Spencer Schneider are two of them.

Edit: And Sam Craggs is not listed on that roster. I wouldn't put much stock at all in that roster list.

[pdt1081]

CHN is out with rosters, obviously not official. Heisenberg has Keighan Gerrie as a scratch. A lot of minutes will go to freshmen this year.

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/repor ... g-Green/11

Keighan Gerrie is an interesting one. He has nothing on his Twitter about being committed anywhere. And then there is this: https://www.nanaimoclippers.com/nanaimo ... han-gerrie

He also signed a LOI for BG in 2019.
https://bgsufalcons.com/news/2019/2/21/ ... ntent.aspx

[pdt1081]

https://bgsufalcons.com/news/2020/1/21/ ... -of-intent

https://bgsufalcons.com/news/2018/12/20 ... ntent.aspx

Current LOIs according to BGSUFALCONS.COM:

Eric Parker (2020)
Brett Pfoh (2020)
Ben Wozney (2020)
Keighan Gerrie (2019)
Brodie McDougall (2018)
Ryan O'Hara (2018)
Spencer Schneider (2018)
Dylan Moultan (2018)

Recent Twitter adds:
Brayden Krieger
Christian Stoever

[TalonsUpPuckDown]

So if I understand this, Gerrie signed the NLI which commits him to BG for one academic year (two semesters). If he chooses to go to another school, he still has to enroll in that school but has to sit a year and lose a year of eligibility and potentially cost that school a scholarship depending on the deal unless BG agrees to let him go. How close am I?

Some of these kids are still Barry recruits so it's not totally surprising they'd want to follow him south.

Edit - Moulton played last year at Miami State.

[pdt1081]

So if I understand this, Gerrie signed the NLI which commits him to BG for one academic year (two semesters). If he chooses to go to another school, he still has to enroll in that school but has to sit a year and lose a year of eligibility and potentially cost that school a scholarship depending on the deal unless BG agrees to let him go. How close am I?

Some of these kids are still Barry recruits so it's not totally surprising they'd want to follow him south.

Edit - Moulton played last year at Miami State.

I wouldn't be surprised if Ty offered every player that had signed the chance to reopen their recruitment. Spencer Schneider first signed in 2018, yet just a couple weeks ago BG Hockey posted that he was "signed."

[jpfalcon09]

CHN is out with rosters, obviously not official. Heisenberg has Keighan Gerrie as a scratch. A lot of minutes will go to freshmen this year.

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/repor ... g-Green/11

Keighan Gerrie is an interesting one. He has nothing on his Twitter about being committed anywhere. And then there is this: https://www.nanaimoclippers.com/nanaimo ... han-gerrie

Chicoine should be a Senior with 2 years of eligibility left. He played 3 with Norwich.

I'm pretty sure in one of Ty's interviews he said there were 4 freshman forwards coming in this season. Brayden Krieger and Spencer Schneider are two of them.

Edit: And Sam Craggs is not listed on that roster. I wouldn't put much stock at all in that roster list.

Yeah, the roster isn't entirely accurate. Nonetheless, yikes. Some guys are going to have to take a big leap forward for BG to be competitive.