vs. South Alabama

[mbenecke]

I don't think Loeffler is anywhere near the hot seat. Offensive philosophy aside, I think we're forgetting to have perspective here.

Last year barely even counts as a season, right? I mean, they didn't have any camp, the season was originally canceled... lots going into it that can be a wash.

Let's see this team play more than once this year before we give up on them. They seemed pretty clearly improved last week, so maybe they'll surprise us this year? Either way, this is a rebuild and we're an insanely young team. We can't be prisoners of the moment here - we have to understand that they will improve with time and experience, and that's not something that can be addressed in 1 day.

[MarkL]

Also count me in the Loeffler is safe camp ... at least for this year.

He was brought in to be the opposite of Jinks. Jinks was young, inexperienced, in over his head from the word "go", with an even younger and less experienced staff. Loeffler has a massively experienced staff with some serious career accomplishments. His job is to build a program that can compete, and compete with consistency, and he has been given a long enough leash to do it without rushing.

So far he has cleaned up on the character recruiting front. The previous staff was an abject failure on this front given the arrests and attrition. As the old adage goes, you have to win off the field before you win on the field and so far it appears to me, at least as a relative outsider, that the program culture and character of the program are pointed the right way. Winning on the field should follow, given good coaching and the general topic of this thread, tactics that allow the team to win.

Now I say he is safe for this year. Obviously I want to see improvement in 2021 over 2020. 2022 is the year he should be fully expected to field a competitive team. He at current has recruited near 100% of his roster. Come 2022, the roster will all be his AND he will have a solid base of veterans he has recruited and developed. That should be the winning formula. If not, then there's a problem.

And since we're all discussing our various feelings on the offensive schemes ... 2022 should also demonstrate that the team has an offense as Loeffler has envisioned - efficient, clock controlling, both scoring points and aiding the defense.

[hammb]

I don't think he's truly on the hotseat either, because I don't think we'll have the money to justify another buyout so soon after the Jinks fiasco. But I disagree with the notion that he shouldn't be. Last year absolutely DOES count as a season. Every team we played (only our conference peers, at that) was in the exact same boat that we were with the hardship.

To me they looked clearly improved for 1 quarter, then we have the coach come out and say that was just a circumstantial thing, not what we'll be looking to do the rest of the season. That's a major WTF moment. But before any improvement from BG my overwhelming takeaway from that game was that Tennessee (especially Milton) was far worse than expected.

Certainly we'll all let it play out (do we have a choice?), but I don't think it's "prisoner of the moment" to start raising the red flags for a coach who has been nothing short of god awful in his 2+ years here. And whose fault is it that we're such a young team? This is Loeffler's 3rd season and it's the 3rd straight year where our roster is nothing but freshmen. I'm tired of the excuses, how bout he starts showing some actual progress. Being a young team you would hope they start to improve as the season moves forward, but his first 2 years haven't shown that, so I'm not holding my breath.

Also really tough to get over the preconceived notions for me. Dude was a crappy offensive coordinator every where he's been. He brought an out of touch, but experienced, coaching staff because it was all the polar opposite of Mike Jinks. He's fine in a press conference, but on gamedays? :puke:

[Flipper]

The Jinks buyout's actual cost wasn't that high IIRC. So far as the pandemic goes...it hit everyone. The transfer portal effects everyone. Did he take over a Godawful situation...yes he did. Other coaches were hired along with him thta took over dumpster fires and they have shown progress. I'm not saying fire him now...and I think the team showed some fight against UT which is a point in his favor...but man, if end th year with 1 or 2 wins...I would be in the dump him camp

[jpfalcon09]

The Jinks buyout's actual cost wasn't that high IIRC. So far as the pandemic goes...it hit everyone. The transfer portal effects everyone. Did he take over a Godawful situation...yes he did. Other coaches were hired along with him thta took over dumpster fires and they have shown progress. I'm not saying fire him now...and I think the team showed some fight against UT which is a point in his favor...but man, if end th year with 1 or 2 wins...I would be in the dump him camp

Jinks' buyout was settled in December 2018 when he was hired by USC. The university quit paying him then. They really didn't suffer anything as Loeffler was hired after that occurred. The worry was Jinks wasn't going to find meaningful employment and BG would be on the hook for two head coaching salaries. Nevertheless, we know the financial issues the athletic department had last year so letting go of anyone regardless of sport is likely not even on the table unless private money steps up.

The dissenters are going to be louder each week there's perceived failure. Losing on the road to an SEC program is immaterial, and getting hung up on his comments really doesn't matter. Season starts this week for me against a G5 opponent at home from an equal footing conference. Need to be competitive and have a chance to win in the fourth quarter. Next week is a must-win against Murray State, regardless of what happens this week. So, I'll reserve my opinion after Saturday's game of whether or not Scot is getting this thing in the right direction or if he's paying everyone a bunch of lip service.

[roguewarrior]

The entire team is freshman mantra is a stretch…. This is the third fall for many “red shirt/covid freshman-2019’s”…. And the second fall for many “covid Freshman-2020’s”….quite a few in all classes early enrolled. To paint them so young is becoming the excuse….Our QB is 22 or 23. Kosar led the Browns to the playoffs at 23….. and this qb has been in HIS system for 5 years? The O line needs to get bigger and needs time, but Beyond that, the players are capable to have success. This season is on the coaches.

[Bgsu2016]

Loeffler said in his press conference the spread out offense we ran with success against TN is not the main way forward but rather the only way of success against that defense. So for this game I'm looking forward to a) will we see more power sets than spread sets and b) will it work when not going up against an SEC size and caliber defensive front seven.

I'm sorry but this is quite possibly the stupidest thing I've heard a coach say in quite awhile.

We did this one thing and actually resulted in some success. But we won't do that against other teams, because they're not as good as our opponent last week.

WTF?

POWER FOOTBALL IS DEAD. Get the eff over it coach, and move on. IF you can't move on in your philosophy then please move the hell on in your career. This is simply ridiculous.

For a couple drives there in the 2nd quarter I ALMOST thought we had an offensive coach on staff that had seen offensive football in the past decade. Guess not.

It's the very thing killing Stanford football. Shaw continues to run that offense and it's just not doing anything. Pretty much ended Dantonio's career as well

[Schadenfreude]

I don't think Loeffler is anywhere near the hot seat.

Correct. Two-thirds of this roster was in high school in 2020 or 2021. This is a multi-year overhaul.

[guest44]

Jinks was paid a final sum of around 200k in December of 2019. I’m sure that was the deferred amount after the initial agreement upon hiring at USC. The Ohio audit showed that.

[jpfalcon09]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/collegefoo ... review/amp

CFN's prediction is out and it's not good.

[MarkL]

I don't see a likely scenario where a) we get the run game going and b) we lose in a blowout. If we get the run game going consistently it will be a competitive game.

If we can't get the run game going, it is all on McDonald again. And we don't have the receivers right now for that to work I don't think. We need offensive balance.

[mbenecke]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/collegefoo ... review/amp

CFN's prediction is out and it's not good.

Bleacher Report picked USA, 31-14.

The more I think about it, the more I understand that the spread is probably just about right. Here's hoping we have a competitive showing in the home opener.

[Schadenfreude]

Falcon defense looks fierce to start. Wow. Safety!

Bowling Green with an early 2-0 lead.

[Hammer]

Do we have a defense??

[bgdodgeball4]

This is a good start.