Quizk Rant

rc_ziggy84 · Post by **rc_ziggy84** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:23 pm

I just want to rant here about something I've seen the last two weeks which really sickens me. I am so tired of seeing people in the crease and interfering with the goalie. MSU's Friday goal and second Saturday goal were as a result of people in the crease on top of Jordon. Saturday night up at Yost a U of M guy dove in head first at Horrell and pummeled him into the net. Some how the puck stayed out. The CCHA has done a good/bad job (you pick...) on clamping down on obstruction and contact to the head. This needs to be worked on too. The crease is there for a reason, keep people out of it!!!

Falcon Fanatic · Post by **Falcon Fanatic** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:49 pm

Absolutely agree with everything you said! The coaches need to complain to the head of the referees and if enough of them do, they will force the referees to focus on it like they have on the obstruction calls. I think it would also help if the coaches had a quick pre-game talk with the refs to point it out so they keep an eye out for it!! Probably wouldn't hurt to email the head of the refs and point out the numerous violations that have ocurred.

GO ICERS!!
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP THE NANOOOOOOOOOOKS!!!!!!!!!

SaxyIrishTenor · Post by **SaxyIrishTenor** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 6:28 pm

Well, can I just also mention that I saw it last Friday when Montoya took a swing at one of our guys - Unger maybe? Didn't even pretend to fake it - just took a swing. Can goalies get penalty minutes?

FlagCityFalcon · Post by **FlagCityFalcon** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 6:32 pm

I just want to know why UM gets away with so much interference...they've constantly got a guy "blocking" for the puck carrier...

Bleeding Orange · Post by **Bleeding Orange** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 6:40 pm

FlagCityFalcon wrote:I just want to know why UM gets away with so much interference...they've constantly got a guy "blocking" for the puck carrier...

Why? Why did we get a 5 min. major with 3:28 left against Michigan State while we were down 1? Because the CCHA, like most other leagues, protects its "big sellers." Michigan and Michigan State are unquestionably the biggest ticket sellers when it comes Super Six time. That really does seem to make sense to me. Think about this, too: Michigan in 15 years has finished no lower than second in the CCHA. FIFTEEN YEARS. I don't care how good Red is, I don't care what kind of recruits they are getting up there, they can not sustain that kind of record without a little help from the conference office. I mean, there had to have been a year in there when at least two schools had a better conference record than Michigan (one would think anyways).

Maybe I am completely off the wall with this, but I've just seen too much to think otherwise anymore. Michigan gets away with so much that its disgusting.

I will say this, though, Saturday night's game was the most evenly officiated game I have ever seen in college hockey. Remember, though, that on Friday night, Michigan clinched the CCHA regular season title. Coincidence?

FindlayFalcon · Post by **FindlayFalcon** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 6:50 pm

Bleeding Orange wrote:[
Maybe I am completely off the wall with this, but I've just seen too much to think otherwise anymore. Michigan gets away with so much that its disgusting.
I will say this, though, Saturday night's game was the most evenly officiated game I have ever seen in college hockey. Remember, though, that on Friday night, Michigan clinched the CCHA regular season title. Coincidence?

No you are not off the wall on this. We have been saying this for years!!! You always know that when you play U of M or MSU that you are not only playing the other team but also the refs too. At least this is the way it seems. And, you better believe, they (conference, refs, powers that be, whoever) will do all they can to get those two teams to the Joe!! That's why I'm sooooo glad we're not playing MSU this coming weekend.

TG1996 · Post by **TG1996** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 6:55 pm

SaxyIrishTenor wrote:Can goalies get penalty minutes?

If this was a serious question, then yes, yes they can. Though they don't have to serve the time, their team just goes shorthanded for the two minutes.

If this wasn't a serious question, then you can take that little wink and.... ah, nevermind...

bgbill · Post by **bgbill** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 8:33 pm

Montoya his own self got a 10-minute misconduct, AT YOST, last year during a game with the Falcons. Guess it was something he said after being scored on. He actually sat in the penalty box while the home crowd chanted "Free Montoya!"

There are several goalies who will swat at a player coming close to their creases.

NY-BG-FAN · Post by **NY-BG-FAN** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 9:19 pm

I am a Sabres fan, meaning I think the crease should extend out to within a few feet of the blue line so it's crystal clear that Brett Hull IS IN the crease.....no I'm still not over it and yes I agree with everyone about the MSU thing.

BGDrew · Post by **BGDrew** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 9:40 pm

At the Super Six, all close goals will be reviewed using video replay.

I know we like to say that the ref has a twenty sticking out of his pocket, but there's some times when we beat ourselves. Examples of this are our special teams. Sometimes the ref is going to botch the big calls. It's not fair, but we have to be able to kill all penalties. This is the playoffs, which means all teams are 0-0-0.

Bleeding Orange · Post by **Bleeding Orange** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:15 pm

BGDrew wrote:At the Super Six, all close goals will be reviewed using video replay.

I know we like to say that the ref has a twenty sticking out of his pocket, but there's some times when we beat ourselves. Examples of this are our special teams. Sometimes the ref is going to botch the big calls. It's not fair, but we have to be able to kill all penalties. This is the playoffs, which means all teams are 0-0-0.

I've actually talked about this on several occasions. If I felt ambitious I would actually search for the posts, but I'm not -- its spring break. A lot of what we complain about with regards to penalty calls is our own fault. Our team brings some of it on themselves with their on-ice play. It isn't their fault, its just hockey and being a program on the rise.

What we are talking about with regards to UM and MSU, though, is an entirely different story. Calls like the major against MSU are outrageous and no one, not even Comely, can justify them. If you were at Friday's game, you saw Michigan get away with murder on defense on stick checks and interference. These aer the things we are talking about. Part of the reason Saturday's game was officiated so well was because we didn't give the officials all that much to call against us -- we truly played that well.

I agree with you, Drew, that our special teams have been suspect all year long. But, that will not be the case for long, I assure you. I also agree that many of the penalties called against us are a result of our poor special teams play. Still, I have to say that there is a great deal of favoratism on the part of the conference for the two biggest post-season sellers -- UM and MSU. It really does make sense, too, because life, after all, is all about money to most people involved in the administration of modern sports.

bacn3 · Post by **bacn3** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:33 pm

I was at the game on sat. And I must say in all my years of hockey (that's a lot) I have never seen such weird penalties. Face masking and clipping... in a hockey game... I know they are real but still that was just plane weird. Um gets away with a lot, but you have to expect that and just put more pucks in their net than they put in ours. And it seems to me that they only call interference on us

BGDrew · Post by **BGDrew** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:48 am

I was sitting behind you and to the right Bleeding. The shot Montoya took was goonish (word?). I'll agree with you that the CCHA has a group of teams they'd like to make the Six, but sometimes it's fun to mess with plans. However, going with the "butts in seats" logic, who do you think the refs are going to pull for? The team an hour and a half away from D-town, or Alaska?

pdt1081 · Post by **pdt1081** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:38 am

rc_ziggy84 wrote: The CCHA has done a good/bad job (you pick...) on clamping down on obstruction and contact to the head.

The CCHA has not done a very good job on the obstruction clamp down. Teams, yes even ours, still run picks on breakouts and through the neutral zone. This is what the clamp down is supposed to eliminate.

I think the biggest problem with the CCHA is the failure to make correct calls. A check from behind into the boards or net is supposed to be a 5 minute major, not a referee's discretion call. If it's from behind into the boards or net it's automatic. That's why it was called at MSU. Was it the correct call? Only if it's called like that for every team, every game.

The rest of the stuff has been going on for years and won't fix itself. The only solution to the problem will be the replacement of Anastos or an "intervention" by the NCAA. Simply filing a complaint with the league will get us nowhere. It will just make the problem worse for us.

bgbill · Post by **bgbill** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:03 am

Boarding is a discretion call.
You can look it up.

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