roguewarrior wrote: ↑Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:55 am
Watch this week: We will come out and drive well the first series or two. When it is scripted, off studying the film. See what happens later, second half, when adjustments take place. in headlights.
I honestly see the fact that we come out with good opening offensive game scripts as a positive, evidence that these coaches are capable of looking at film, devising a strategy, and coaching these players up.
We ALWAYS since ‘19 have at a minimum 1 panic timeout because the clock is running out, and probably two delay of games. I love the ones on 4th down, when punting from deep in our own territory.
This is never a great look. It reminds me of the concerns some expressed earlier in the Loeffler era that this offense was awfully complicated for the college game. I'd like to think as this program keeps building and growing we can eliminate this stuff. So far, that hasn't happened.
Well, if you are a veteran college football coach with a staff with 260 years collective experience, you better be able to script plays that maximize chances ON PAPER, first drives.
The part that separates coaches on all levels, is adjusting. Gamesmanship. Players coached and capable enough mentally to adjust with it.
Therein lies the dilemma. He’s Good enough to field a team and win a handful is about the ceiling, IMHO.
We've had coaches here in the past who would tailor their approach to the talent on hand...not worrying so much about adhering to their "plan" as much as getting something installed that works and gives us the best chance to win.
I don't think the issue is knowledge per se...I think it's the mental approach you take to the task at hand.
It's not the fall that hurts...it's when you hit the ground.
“I honestly see the fact that we come out with good opening offensive game scripts as a positive, evidence that these coaches are capable of looking at film, devising a strategy, and coaching these players up. “
Yeah I see this as a problem. You have 15 plays that you can execute well. Great, what about the other 50-60 plays in the game? I agree Rogue since the Kent game this has been the story. We lead early on and look worse and worse as the game goes on. And most scary we have looked bad quicker each week. The Kent game was lost in the final minutes of the game. These others have went off the rails much quicker.
kdog27 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:38 pm
“I honestly see the fact that we come out with good opening offensive game scripts as a positive, evidence that these coaches are capable of looking at film, devising a strategy, and coaching these players up. “
Yeah I see this as a problem. You have 15 plays that you can execute well. Great, what about the other 50-60 plays in the game? I agree Rogue since the Kent game this has been the story. We lead early on and look worse and worse as the game goes on. And most scary we have looked bad quicker each week. The Kent game was lost in the final minutes of the game. These others have went off the rails much quicker.
TBH, this goes hand in hand with the comments about the team not practicing with intensity early in the week. Easy to perform well on the plays you script and perform several times during your walkthrough. Once out of that, the variability starts to show and if players aren't clean on their execution, the mistakes happen. No doubt it's why you're seeing the amount of pre-snap penalties this far into the season. Is it the coaches job to fix that? Absolutely. But if the players are only willing to commit so much, it's hard for the coaches to change that. Needs to be driven from the leadership group on the team.
hammb wrote: ↑Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:01 am
The urgency to add starting quality OL transfers SHOULD have been there LAST offseason. Now that we've watched another season of getting destroyed off the ball by pretty much every opponent it should be even more obvious.
I just don't get it. I cannot stand Loeffler's offensive plan/philosophy. But if you ARE going to succeed with this style of offense the 5 starters on the OL are probably 5 of the 6-7 most important players on offense. QB is always key no matter what you're trying to do, but when you want to run the ball and run long developing pass plays your OL simply must be well above average across the board. And yet it was basically ignored this past offseason.
Tack it on as another thing that simply makes zero sense with how this program has been run. But yes, if they're going to improve next year they absolutely need to bring in more OL that are starting caliber. If the returning starters improve and can hold onto the jobs, great, but competition (and NOT 18 yr old HS competition) is absolutely needed in the OL room.
I agree with your point about the OL concerns heading into this year. While we were limited to what had left to offer any sort of OL transfers for this season, we didn't even bring in a single guy. Not one. And that was AFTER we saw starters Ware, Stage, Downs and Tanner-Blair all leave in the offseason! We nearly lost our entire starting OL in the offseason (4 of 5 starters) with nothing but freshmen behind them and we added no one!. That was baffling to me! To make matters worse, our lone returning starter (Neverov) was medically disqualified, AND we had three more guys leave this season (Carroll, Kilbane and O'Brian). Talk about a colossal mess. Our OL situation was about as bad as it could possibly be. Now we are starting 4 freshmen and 1 converted DL. So when I hear Loeffler talk about this as a liability, I want to scream, because he knew this was going to be a major problem, and yet did nothing to try and slow the bleeding. Notice I didn't say stop the bleeding, I simply said try and slow it. This is why we must....make that MUST....get some guys in here next year to blend in with the guys we have now. It's imperative to do so at this point, because we still run the risk of losing even more guys here in the offseason. Our offense isn't going to be able to take the steps forward it needs to make for us competitive even within our own conference until we get some OL guys in here who can help us open up some running lanes or give us better pass protection. We have some WR's and RB's here now who can hopefully stay here and grow, and even serviceable QB play would be decent footing moving forward if we can get this OL situation fixed.