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[MarkL]

I guess PJ Fleck, Thomas Hammock, Sean Lewis are all rare? I think more will turn out decent coaches unlike Jinks.

NFL, NFL with college OC experience, OC. None straight from college position coach to college head coach.

[Tony4BG]

Still position coaches with no OC experience. Lewis was only Co-OC so he probably did not call plays. Fleck was in NFL one whopping year.

[MarkL]

Of the 12 current head coaches in the MAC, only one came from position coach in college immediately prior. Tim Lester. And even then he has college coordinator experience. The rest came from immediately prior NFL position coaches, head coaches, or coordinators. That should indicate where ADs consider to be good hiring pools or risky hiring pools. More immediately translatable experience from these positions than college position coach.

Doesn't mean you can't find a good HC candidate who is currently a position coach. At OSU if I had to hire a position coach, I'd go either RB, WR, or OL given the success of those positions without knowing anything about the coaches themselves. But I'd rather get a coordinator.

[Schadenfreude]

Exactly rogue. We are talking about position coach to Group of 5 HC. What was Meyer before coming to BG??

Meyer was a bit of a gamble. He coached wide receivers at Notre Dame. Sometimes those kind of gambles work out, sometimes they don't.

One of the best resumes ever for an incoming head coach was Dave Clawson. He had rebuilt Fordham and Richmond as a head coach, so it was tough to argue he couldn't do it here. (And he got it done!)

Next best resume, arguably: Denny Stolz, who was the head coach at Michigan State from 1973-1975 before we hired him in 1977 to replace Don Nehlen. It took a few years, but he got us a MAC championship, too.

Next time we hire, those are the kinds of resumes I'd look for. (And preferably no scandals. Stolz left Sparty after a recruiting scandal that got them put on probation, so BGSU did take a risk in hiring him.)

[roguewarrior]

Call me crazy, I’d take Alford over Loeffler all day (Loefflers bad BG performance aside), just resume’s side by side. Assistant HC & RB Coach at OSU, coaching some of the best RB’s produced in the nation. Long stints at OSU and Notre Dame. 20 years+ experience. Well known respected recruiter in Ohio. I’ve stood on the sideline 5 feet away watching them warm up at the shoe…… whole different level of preparedness and intensity. I don’t know if he is ready for LSU, but he would kill at BG or Akron, IMHO.

[guest44]

Jim McElwain at Central Michigan has a pretty good resume. He won big and quick as a head coach at Colorado St. He then was a head coach at Florida in the SEC. He also worked as a coordinator under Nick Saban at Alabama. Unfortunately, he was missing the key component BGSU was looking for in connections to Tom Brady and Boston.

[jpfalcon09]

https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story ... dead-money

Saw this article today on ESPN regarding dead money in college football and men's/women's hoops. Amazing how many terrible decisions universities have made in the last decade. And yes, BGSU is on the list with Mike Jinks.

[Tony4BG]

Wow that is crazy!!

[Schadenfreude]

https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story ... dead-money

Saw this article today on ESPN regarding dead money in college football and men's/women's hoops. Amazing how many terrible decisions universities have made in the last decade. And yes, BGSU is on the list with Mike Jinks.

I didn't realize Bowling Green paid him that much after taking his whistle away from him. That said, it could have been a lot worse. Sure glad someone else hired him.

[jpfalcon09]

https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story ... dead-money

Saw this article today on ESPN regarding dead money in college football and men's/women's hoops. Amazing how many terrible decisions universities have made in the last decade. And yes, BGSU is on the list with Mike Jinks.

I didn't realize Bowling Green paid him that much after taking his whistle away from him. That said, it could have been a lot worse. Sure glad someone else hired him.

I think it highlights the financial impact a decision like that has on the university, especially given the current times with the loss of revenue with covid last year. $431K is a decent chunk of change for a department that already runs extremely lean.

[Tony4BG]

Local media reported buyout was $375k so not a big difference what ESPN listed.

Jinks buyout was paid in full by 1/31/19.

Article I found didn’t say where buyout money was from.

[guest44]

What's more amazing is the people who make these horrendous decisions continue to get a free pass. Ohio audit showed the final payment to Jinks was made in December of 2019. Somewhere around 200K. Months before the pandemic and cutting the baseball program.

Now talk to Ryan Hite about fundraising. Ask him about student fees.

[jpfalcon09]

What's more amazing is the people who make these horrendous decisions continue to get a free pass. Ohio audit showed the final payment to Jinks was made in December of 2019. Somewhere around 200K. Months before the pandemic and cutting the baseball program.

My post was in relation to paying Loeffler a buyout. He'd be owed north of a million if he were to be bought out at this moment. I'm aware the Jinks money came from university funds prior to covid.

[guest44]

My post is in relation to the decison to hire Jinks and Loeffler. Both bad decisions and horrible contracts.

[jpfalcon09]

My post is in relation to the decison to hire Jinks and Loeffler. Both bad decisions and horrible contracts.

We're all well aware of your opinions.