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Duquesne is a solid team. This is a good win after some big disappointments early on. I think losing Gordon has definitely been addition by subtraction.
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BG with some great free throw shooting down the stretch and the Falcons come away with a W!

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I just watched the second half.....but that is the kind of basketball I want to see us play. Really nice. Moved the ball. Not a lot of terrible shots. Maybe it was just growing pains? There is still room for growth. Things have seemed to settle in since Gordon has been gone and Fields decided to redshirt. Also, Metheny back from injury. They are still figuring out roles for Mills, Fulcher, Kulackovskis, Turner and Young I think but that's ok.
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It’s time to tighten up the lineup and keep Curtis running the point. Maybe that’s what this offense is supposed to look like with the right personnel on the floor.

I also can only imagine what this team would have been like the past few years with a player like Reece on the floor.

Anyways, hoping the coaching staff is getting this figured out.
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hammb wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:53 pm
Globetrotter wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:52 pm
Antimob wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:50 pm
hammb wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:48 am In the end I think the home schedule is far less bout money and far more about inflating the record artificially. We could afford to spend to get home games if we were willing to do so. It's a lot easier to say you won a bunch of games when you schedule the creampuffs Huger likes to play against.
Keith Dambrot makes $1 million per year. Michael Huger makes 415,000. BG fan logic: Huger should be able to beat Keith Dambrot.
This makes no sense on like 4 different levels.
He's a dipshit too dense to read the discussion and see that we are all calling this the type of game we should play, and sometimes at home.
It makes so little sense that you didn't refute it. Stay classy, hammb. How about another 8 paragraph forensic analysis of the pizza concession temperatures?
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Had to put the kiddo to bed at halftime. We didn't play well in the first but kept it close enough. What I saw in the final 10 mins of the second half was very encouraging. Moved the ball, guys actually moved without the ball.

Won lots of hustle plays on defense and the boards as well. Reese with some big time hustle plays.

Good road win. Real good.
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Antimob wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:03 pm
hammb wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:53 pm
Globetrotter wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:52 pm
Antimob wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:50 pm
hammb wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:48 am In the end I think the home schedule is far less bout money and far more about inflating the record artificially. We could afford to spend to get home games if we were willing to do so. It's a lot easier to say you won a bunch of games when you schedule the creampuffs Huger likes to play against.
Keith Dambrot makes $1 million per year. Michael Huger makes 415,000. BG fan logic: Huger should be able to beat Keith Dambrot.
This makes no sense on like 4 different levels.
He's a dipshit too dense to read the discussion and see that we are all calling this the type of game we should play, and sometimes at home.
It makes so little sense that you didn't refute it. Stay classy, hammb. How about another 8 paragraph forensic analysis of the pizza concession temperatures?
I don't refute it because your stupid statement is the exact opposite of what we've been saying. Not one person said we "should" beat Duquesne, it was a good win. Not one person claimed playing Duquesne is an example of a soft schedule.

The point of the early discussion was quite clearly that we were looking forward playing a team like Duquesne instead of crap like Ohio Wesleyan and Lourdes that we play every damned year.

As for the pizza temps I had a nice little conversation with the wood county health dept today. I'll leave it in their hands for now. Of course we know nothing will happen, because the people in charge don't give a s**t.
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Saw so many good things from us tonight. Saw some of the same old same old, especially in the first half. But also saw consistent effort almost the entire game. The lone exception that stands out was a Matheny iso in the 2nd half where not only did the other 4 guys stand around unmoving - they did it IN TEH WAY so the defense could collapse on him super easily.

God it was inept.

But Curtis was finding guys in the paint in scoring position. We set things up by having shooters screen so the defense could not sage, THEN driving with fewer defenders, which caused rotations, which made for open shots. The Curtis-Reece combo was sweet. Matis and Reece was a solid combo on the floor together the last 10 minutes of the 1st half. Matheny got and hit open shots. Matheny at least twice also hit stop-on-a-dime-shoot-over-you-while-leaning-back jumpers that I don't recall being in his arsenal before. And in the 2nd Half, Plowden stopped trying to be THE MAN and just played ball (most of the time). He's not a lead offensive player. But he's a GREAT complementary piece on offense and a lead defender.

We also did a half court trap a couple times. Resulted in them stepping out of bounds twice ,and no blown coverages for easy shots off of passes out of it. I liked that little wrinkle to our defense.
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hammb wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:07 pm
Antimob wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:03 pm
hammb wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:53 pm
Globetrotter wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:52 pm
Antimob wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:50 pm
hammb wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:48 am In the end I think the home schedule is far less bout money and far more about inflating the record artificially. We could afford to spend to get home games if we were willing to do so. It's a lot easier to say you won a bunch of games when you schedule the creampuffs Huger likes to play against.
Keith Dambrot makes $1 million per year. Michael Huger makes 415,000. BG fan logic: Huger should be able to beat Keith Dambrot.
This makes no sense on like 4 different levels.
He's a dipshit too dense to read the discussion and see that we are all calling this the type of game we should play, and sometimes at home.
It makes so little sense that you didn't refute it. Stay classy, hammb. How about another 8 paragraph forensic analysis of the pizza concession temperatures?
I don't refute it because your stupid statement is the exact opposite of what we've been saying. Not one person said we "should" beat Duquesne, it was a good win. Not one person claimed playing Duquesne is an example of a soft schedule.

The point of the early discussion was quite clearly that we were looking forward playing a team like Duquesne instead of crap like Ohio Wesleyan and Lourdes that we play every damned year.

As for the pizza temps I had a nice little conversation with the wood county health dept today. I'll leave it in their hands for now. Of course we know nothing will happen, because the people in charge don't give a s**t.
Hammb! I love the pizza talk don't listen to auntiemob.

What happened with the Pizza?
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It makes so little sense that you didn't refute it. Stay classy, hammb. How about another 8 paragraph forensic analysis of the pizza concession temperatures?
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Dude, you are totally, 100% wrong about the discussion and consensus here. We want to play teams like Duquesne so we can be better prepared for league play. We do not expect Huger to beat Dambrodt, especially on their court. We do expect him to beat Southern Utah, not get embarrassingly blown out by Ohio State, and not need overtime against a D2 school.

His salary has nothing to do with it, either. Although everyone here will tell you he is overpaid. We have all agreed on this for a long time. His hiring process was dumb as hell, and his extension maybe even dumber. Suggesting tht Huger should not beat Dambrodt because of their salaries is also a very interesting, frankly putrid take.
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How Did Kulackovskis play.

Rotation is interesting. Josiah played the most bench minutes and was playing at the end of the game. Kula and Turner both played 13 but I don't even remember seeing Kula.
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Why is Curtis listed as a Junior? Didn't he get a Covid year?
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Answered my own question. It appears if you transfer you can play automatically but eat a year. If you stay you get 5 years.
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Globetrotter wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:15 pm How Did Kulackovskis play.

Rotation is interesting. Josiah played the most bench minutes and was playing at the end of the game. Kula and Turner both played 13 but I don't even remember seeing Kula.

He played well. Opened up the offense by getting in position to take a shot - and hit the only pair of 3's he took. Was slow getting to the hole resulting in a charge. Defense was positionally solid. Boxed out well. Was an obvious upgrade over Swingle in terms of mobility and hands and shooting and, frankly, bball IQ.

I was surprised to see him and Reece on the court at the same time - but it worked well. When we clawed back from that 11 point hole in the 1st half, they were on the court together.
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Re: @ Duquesne (12/1)

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Someone earlier mentioned the Curtis drive/ dish to plowden cutting baseline and that was hands down the best sequence of offensive events so far this season in my opinion. This team is wild to watch in person. I constantly felt like we get getting hammered on the boards and losing by 20+. We out rebounded them and didn’t get down by more than 12.

But holy smokes we go on certain stretches where we look plain dominant on both ends of the floor. We rotate so well defensively at times and got some great looks off simple drive/ kicks. If this is going to be a free flowing offense then Curtis needs to run the point moving forward. Our lethargic offense can be at least improved if we go to the rim off those constant ball screens instead of just dribbling around the 3 point line/ handing it off. Yes, we for whatever reason REALLY struggle to finish around the rim, but we at least broke down the defense tonight and had way better looks overall than any other game this year. Curtis beat his man multiple times and Made the right pass to shooters spotting up.

Someone also mentioned Kula on this post and they are 100% right. This team needs offense and defenses are forced to extend to respect his shooting ability. You can tell he mostly just wants to hang around the 3 point line right now getting his legs back under him but he looks really confident shooting the ball given how long he’s been out.

Don’t care about ken pom rankings or whatever, we beat a good team tonight. All 5 Duquesne starters are over 6’3” and they are all athletic as hell. They had a pretty tasty ally oop in the second half that i thought for sure was the nail in the coffin.

Tonight was entertaining as hell and this team just screams month long winning streak at some point if they put it all together. Still a lot of moving pieces but i saw our overall talent simply take over down the stretch tonight.

FWIW, Plowden was limping around a little at the end of the game. He was laughing with the trainer afterwords so hopefully it’s nothing serious but something to monitor moving forward.
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