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[roguewarrior]

I’m fine with improving the nutrition if it’s lacking. No way in hell the football team should be getting any more facility improvements until they do something productive on the field. The facilities are more than adequate to compete for MAC titles. Hope they already have plans to pay for baseball again, because this is irresponsible otherwise.

I would agree…. You can’t hang baseball out to dry.

[Schadenfreude]

No way in hell the football team should be getting any more facility improvements until they do something productive on the field.

By this logic, we should not invest in baseball. They lose a lot.

[TommyG]

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No way in hell the football team should be getting any more facility improvements until they do something productive on the field.

By this logic, we should not invest in baseball. They lose a lot.
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More MAC championships than any other mens sports the last 25 years…and it isn’t close.
Only reason they haven’t been good recently was they had 1/3rd of their scholarships cut after winning back to back titles in 2009. Even then they still won a title in 2013 I think.

Good try though.

[Schadenfreude]

No way in hell the football team should be getting any more facility improvements until they do something productive on the field.

By this logic, we should not invest in baseball. They lose a lot.

More MAC championships than any other mens sports the last 25 years…and it isn’t close.

Your argument seems to be that the athletic department should only be investing in programs that are winning.

Baseball finished 20-30 last year, 16-33 in 2019, and 16-33 in 2017. That isn't very productive on the field. If they want funding, maybe they need to step it up. Is that how this works?

[Beaker]

Are we going to get a new strength coach to match it?

I wish we would. Our guy still has his Franco Columbo workout taped to the wall.

That's right in line with the BGSU men's chorus director having posters of Enrico Pallazzo in his office.

[TommyG]

Schad…I’d spell out my point in more detail but you aren’t smart enough to understand it. You literally are the most uninformed person on this board…

[Schadenfreude]

Schad…I’d spell out my point in more detail

I'm not sure you can. Either recent performance on the field should be tied to funding or it shouldn't. No need for personal insults.

[factman]

I’ll spell it out for him. Baseball has been operating on about a third less scholarships (6-8 scholarship players) than its competition for the last 8-10 years, which was Christophers doing. The scholarships have just got close to the 11.7 allowed in the past year or so.
Recruiting, primarily due to the new $$$, has increased the recruiting and depth of talent considerably and you can expect improved results in the near future.

[Schadenfreude]

I’ll spell it out for him. Baseball has been operating on about a third less scholarships (6-8 scholarship players) than its competition for the last 8-10 years, which was Christophers doing. The scholarships have just got close to the 11.7 allowed in the past year or so.
Recruiting, primarily due to the new $$$, has increased the recruiting and depth of talent considerably and you can expect improved results in the near future.

This seems like an argument for investing in teams even when they lose. TommyG seems against investing in teams when they lose.

[TommyG]

SMH….just nonsense….

[Flipper]

Are we going to get a new strength coach to match it?

I wish we would. Our guy still has his Franco Columbo workout taped to the wall.

That's right in line with the BGSU men's chorus director having posters of Enrico Pallazzo in his office.

No...it isn't. Franco Colombo was a 1970's bodybuilder..
There have been a number of advances in the area of strength and condition and nutrition since his heyday....suggesting that the current guy is stuck in the past for utilizing outmoded methods is nothing like a chorus director having a picture of an admired singer

[Flipper]

No way in hell the football team should be getting any more facility improvements until they do something productive on the field.

By this logic, we should not invest in baseball. They lose a lot.

More MAC championships than any other mens sports the last 25 years…and it isn’t close.

Your argument seems to be that the athletic department should only be investing in programs that are winning.

Baseball finished 20-30 last year, 16-33 in 2019, and 16-33 in 2017. That isn't very productive on the field. If they want funding, maybe they need to step it up. Is that how this works?

No...the argument is that baseball was successful before their funding was slashed. Perhaps we should put money back into that program rather than throwing more $$$ into the budget hog that is football.

Football, men's basketball and hockey take a lot of resources. We have not seen much ROI from them

[mbenecke]

No way in hell the football team should be getting any more facility improvements until they do something productive on the field.

By this logic, we should not invest in baseball. They lose a lot.

More MAC championships than any other mens sports the last 25 years…and it isn’t close.

Your argument seems to be that the athletic department should only be investing in programs that are winning.

Baseball finished 20-30 last year, 16-33 in 2019, and 16-33 in 2017. That isn't very productive on the field. If they want funding, maybe they need to step it up. Is that how this works?

No...the argument is that baseball was successful before their funding was slashed. Perhaps we should put money back into that program rather than throwing more $$$ into the budget hog that is football.

Football, men's basketball and hockey take a lot of resources. We have not seen much ROI from them

While true on football and men’s basketball in the past 5 years, I hesitate to lump hockey into that equation. Of the 3, they’ve had the most success by a wide margin. They may not have a trophy to show for it, but they’re clearly more successful than those other 2 programs. Feels a bit unfair to group those together as failures.

[Schadenfreude]

More MAC championships than any other mens sports the last 25 years…and it isn’t close.

You are stretching here, by the way. If you move the measuring stick in either direction, football has been more successful. Football has had more championships during the past decade, the past two decades, the past three decades, etc.

Football, men's basketball and hockey take a lot of resources. We have not seen much ROI from them

Speaking of ROI, has the baseball team ever once been on national television?

[TommyG]

Okay Schad you’re right…I’m sure putting money into already adequate facilities will help get football back to glory.