vs. Miami (1/8)

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Might just need to accept that this group of imperfect pieces just don’t work together. At this point there should be some level of continuity and there is not. If by MAC tourney time they put it together it’ll be a hell of a movie script but that’s mighty optimistic.
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BEfore he got hurt, Matheny dished out 5 assists in 19 minutes with 0 turnovers. HE was only 1-3 from teh field, but I can take that kind of play.

OF course, we've gotten back in the game since he went down, so...
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FalconTurf wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:47 pm Might just need to accept that this group of imperfect pieces just don’t work together. At this point there should be some level of continuity and there is not. If by MAC tourney time they put it together it’ll be a hell of a movie script but that’s mighty optimistic.
Hard to have continuity when coach plays different guys different minutes at different times every game.

Too many fingers in teh pie. We need to stop playing 11 guys and trying to get them stats ever ygame.

Limit it to 8 ir 9 and let them gell.
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Last 30 seconds, tie game, Miami ball.

Great defense. Sealed off everything they wanted to do. Forced a bobble that turned into a steal. No gfamble, just better defense than their offense. Time out BG with 9.1 left on the clock.
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Bad out of time out play. Gordon dribbling for 5 - 6 seconds to a mid range, tightly guarded turnaround by Plowden that may have been blocked, may have been lightly fouled.

Was a bad play, don't really care if the refs got it midly wrong.
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Plowden trips on defense, Miami dunk. Up 2 with 20 something on the clock.
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Up 2 with 9 seconds. Hope we do better with this inbounds play than the last one.

I wanna see Elsasser get put in, stand in the corner, and whe nthey leave him alone, can the 3 :)
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Mills hits the free throws, Gordon BLOCKS THE THREE!!!!

BG win in OT.

My predictions may have been a bit off.
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Falcons win in OT, 87-83!

I don’t care how we got there, I’m just glad we won.
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Diemilkweed wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:28 pm Predictions for tonight.

A starter who is playing well gets their second foul in the first 10 minutes and never plays in the first half again. They come out firing in the 2nd half.... then never see the ball again after the 17 minute mark.

A player who is getting burned by their counterpart on the other team time and time again will be left in about 5 minutes too long, resulting in a 10 point swing in the score.

A guard who has not gone off lately will go off - it will NOT be Matheny.

Plowden will shoot under 50%

Diggs will hit a couple threes early. Then miss a couple because of regression to the mean. Then largely get ignored on offense after that.

Kula and Reece will not see the floor together even though the work well together. Kula staying more down low on defense and outside on offense.

We will run maaaaaaybe 2 pick and pops with Kula. Kula will be wide open. The other team will adjust it's defense accordingly, and we will not take advantage of it.

Somehow, we will win by 16 and think "Maybe we have the talent to overcome anyway."
Nobody got in foul trouble - but Reece still sat for 10 minutes after starting well anyway. And Curtis played pretty well in the 1st half and barely in the 2nd half.

We put Turner in and they promptly went on a 9-2 run, but that did not seem to be specific to him. And he was REALLY solid in the 2nd half. 3 starters came in immediately and stopped the bleeding.... for a moment.

Guards: Gordon got a bunch of minutes and got a bag full of assists to go with. No guard really WENT OFF though. That was Plowden, Reece and Turner. Curtis only played 21 minutes even though he was playing pretty well early, but finished 3 of 9. Gordon and Mills both gave us good, solid minutes in the 2nd half in particular.

Plowden shot 9-16, so was over 50% - so glad to be wrong on that one. Oh, that might be pre-OT stats, so remains to be seen for sure.

Diggs started 0-2 and... that was it. 15 minutes. Turner picked up the slack nicely.

None of Kula, Reece and Oneal ever shared the floor. Did not see any pick and pops with him at all.

Oh - I missed quite a bit of the start of the 2nd half because I was dealing with an issue with my dogs. Everyone is fine, including the little stupid mop that attacked my pair of 70 pound good boys. But holy crap that was hard.
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Guard play is the biggest issue. Defense and handling pressure is sketchy no matter who plays. I often feel better seeing Plowden bringing it up court. Posts and forwards aren’t perfect but compliment each other. As a team this is still a work in progress, long way to go to be a contender.
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FalconTurf wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:35 pm Guard play is the biggest issue. Defense and handling pressure is sketchy no matter who plays. I often feel better seeing Plowden bringing it up court. Posts and forwards aren’t perfect but compliment each other. As a team this is still a work in progress, long way to go to be a contender.
I agree. We rolled with Gordon and Mills down the stretch and the entire OT because those 2 playing together was the first time all game our guards actually guarded anybody.

Curtis did play well offensively in the first half, and matheny was distributing nicely as well. But those 2 on the floor together were a disaster defensively.

Matheny spent the bulk of the 2nd half with crutches and in a boot, so he may be out awhile. I like his game but the way Curtis has played we may be better off letting Samari play PG and one of the other guys off the ball. No question in my mind matheny and Curtis are our best 2 offensive guards but man they are brutal defensively.
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I disagree about Matheny on offense. I think Gordon, Curtis and Fulcher all provide more value on offense. They all have better assist to turnover ratios, all shoot better from everywhere, and all rebound better. Lord knows they all play better defense.

Honestly, until those step backs start coming more often, until his 3 ball starts going in at a better rate, and until he learns when to attack the basket and how to finish when he does (saw glimpses of ALL of that lately, but it's all maybe 1/3 of the way from where he was to where he needs to be), he should ride the pine and maybe get 10 minutes a night.

Reece should be getting 30 minutes a night. HE doesn't get tired, and he is simply much more effective than our other bigs.

Between Diggs and Turner I am fine in going with the hot hand. Tonight, it was Turner. Solid rebounding, shot 50% on 8 attempts. Nice solid game off the bench.
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Diemilkweed wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:44 pm
FalconTurf wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:47 pm Might just need to accept that this group of imperfect pieces just don’t work together. At this point there should be some level of continuity and there is not. If by MAC tourney time they put it together it’ll be a hell of a movie script but that’s mighty optimistic.
Hard to have continuity when coach plays different guys different minutes at different times every game.

Too many fingers in teh pie. We need to stop playing 11 guys and trying to get them stats ever ygame.

Limit it to 8 ir 9 and let them gell.
I was at the game tonight and this was the exact problem in the first half. Coach had emptied the bench for no reason and let Miami go on a huge run. At that point it looked like we might have a culture problem on our team. We had a lot of visibly upset players. His rotations make no sense and I think it pisses off our players.. The rotation was much tighter in the second half and we got a big spark from Gordon.

Myron is a guy that has a lot of attitude “issues” and I thought would be a cancer in this team but one thing I have to say is he always gives 100% effort. He’s the kind of guy you would hate if he’s on the other team but I’m growing to love him being on ours. If he can learn to control emotions then he can be a big boost coming off the bench. Great effort by him tonight.
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Curious to hear who everyone would like to see Metheny’s minutes if he’s out for an extended period of time? Obvious front runner will be Mills but am i missing something there? 5 for 30 something from 3 and not exactly Bruce Bowen on defense. He was better defending Grant last night than Metheny, that I will say.

My vote would be fulcher but he was completely written off last night. Turner would be an interesting one too and would give us all kinds of length, very limited ball handlers though. Not sure he’d thrive as much in a starting role either as opposed to first one off the bench.
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