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Let me understand this....We have an extremely little amount of experience behind McDonald, and now we're adding yet another questionable guy to go along with the other questionable ones we already have? I'm scratching my head on this one. Melton is 2-10 passing for 23 yards and 1 interception in 4 games, Davis is 0-2 with 1 interception in 2 games, and George and Gunther have never played. Loeffler is supposed to be a "QB whisperer," and yet in another year when the transfer portal is chalked full of guys - including a number of guys with proven, quality, high-level experience, we're going this route? I don't get it. This seems like just another guy who is likely going to fall into the group of guys who are already here that are unable to push and compete for the #1 spot. To be fair, I have not heard of this guy or ever seen him play, so I could be wrong about him. and I hope I am. But going back again to Loeffler's alleged ties and connections to QB's, he's had the portal at his disposal the last few years, and what he's brought in are few FBS walk-on's who were buried on the depth charts at other schools that were never going to play, and now a guy from the FCS with limited experience. Again, I hope I'm wrong, but this wasn't the type of addition I was hoping for or expecting at all.
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BGSU33 wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:09 pm But going back again to Loeffler's alleged ties and connections to QB's, he's had the portal at his disposal the last few years, and what he's brought in are few FBS walk-on's who were buried on the depth charts at other schools that were never going to play, and now a guy from the FCS with limited experience. Again, I hope I'm wrong, but this wasn't the type of addition I was hoping for or expecting at all.
Limited experience is a bit harsh. He was the QB1 at LIU. However, I agree with the rest of your points. WKU went and got a Doege, I would expect us to do the same.
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We should be more concerned that going into year 4 there is no clear, ready heir apparent from within. There should be an ongoing debate with groups like this as to who the starting QB should be, between two kids, week to week, season to season. It’s a glaring problem that we NEED to be shopping for a ready starter now…. And also…..that we are NOT.
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Limited experience is fair...he played three games last year and went 39-69-0 with 2 TD's for 425 yds (that's wrong their website only listed the results for their first three games....way to go LIU SID...ESPN has game by game stats and I'm not taking the time to add up the cumulative. )

He appears to have one year of starting experience on a bad FCS team...not exctly what I was hoping for in a QB for this year and beyond

Does McDonald have naked pictures of Loeffler with a walrus on his phone or something that he's blackmailing him with? Struggling to see the logic behind bringing in guys who don't seem to fit the profile of a QB that's expected to push for an FBS starting gig
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Flipper wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:20 am Limited experience is fair...he played three games last year and went 39-69-0 with 2 TD's for 425 yds (that's wrong their website only listed the results for their first three games....way to go LIU SID...ESPN has game by game stats and I'm not taking the time to add up the cumulative. )

He appears to have one year of starting experience on a bad FCS team...not exctly what I was hoping for in a QB for this year and beyond

Does McDonald have naked pictures of Loeffler with a walrus on his phone or something that he's blackmailing him with? Struggling to see the logic behind bringing in guys who don't seem to fit the profile of a QB that's expected to push for an FBS starting gig
LIU official website has stats for all games last season

I agree with everyone. With all the QBs in the portal. This is best Loeffler could sign? Look at NIU last season and the signing Lombardi.
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I think the difference is that NIU last season (and the WKU example with Doege, as well) was a program looking for an immediate starter. I've never thought we were going into the portal to pull in a big fish, I thought we were looking for depth in the room that could push McDonald.

I've always been under the impression that our 2-year returning starter would be starting this fall as well no matter what. Did anyone really expect Matt not to start next season?
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Flipper wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:20 am Limited experience is fair...he played three games last year and went 39-69-0 with 2 TD's for 425 yds (that's wrong their website only listed the results for their first three games....way to go LIU SID...ESPN has game by game stats and I'm not taking the time to add up the cumulative. )

He appears to have one year of starting experience on a bad FCS team...not exctly what I was hoping for in a QB for this year and beyond

Does McDonald have naked pictures of Loeffler with a walrus on his phone or something that he's blackmailing him with? Struggling to see the logic behind bringing in guys who don't seem to fit the profile of a QB that's expected to push for an FBS starting gig
I seriously think he likes being associated with notable Pros and QBs…. He is enamored with Brady and I perceive some similar fawning with McDonald’s Dad. Regardless of any weird thoughts of mine, our QB cupboard is currently bare.
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Bad coach…worse AD. The sooner both are gone, the better. Nothing against McDonald but he shouldn’t be starting in FBS football…if he cleaned up his throwing motion he might be productive, but he isn’t going be anything more than below avg as is. How is he going to go into the fall without a legit competition for the spot? It is really baffling…
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I hold out hope, as there is still plenty of time, portal wise. The kid they got could be a walk on? And he could end up being really good?? Don’t want to throw him under the bus because the coach is unskilled.
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Played 10 games last year and had 10 touchdown passes. Only 3 games with over 60% completion percentage and 4 games not over 50% completion. Hopefully a PWO

Didn't check his high school stats but his high school is not one of the traditional top florida schools. He did play in the most competitive classification in Florida
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roguewarrior wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 7:02 am We should be more concerned that going into year 4 there is no clear, ready heir apparent from within.
It's Tucker Melton, isn't it?

It's difficult to get a sense of the ceiling for any of our quarterbacks without an offensive line. I hope we will learn much more this year.
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Schadenfreude wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:36 pm
roguewarrior wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 7:02 am We should be more concerned that going into year 4 there is no clear, ready heir apparent from within.
It's Tucker Melton, isn't it?

It's difficult to get a sense of the ceiling for any of our quarterbacks without an offensive line. I hope we will learn much more this year.
He may be the #2, but he is not a #1. That’s not my assessment, it’s theirs. He is not remotely considered a threat to McDonald.
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roguewarrior wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:23 pm
Schadenfreude wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:36 pm
roguewarrior wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 7:02 am We should be more concerned that going into year 4 there is no clear, ready heir apparent from within.
It's Tucker Melton, isn't it?

It's difficult to get a sense of the ceiling for any of our quarterbacks without an offensive line. I hope we will learn much more this year.
He may be the #2, but he is not a #1. That’s not my assessment, it’s theirs. He is not remotely considered a threat to McDonald.
I agree. We've only seen a small sample size, but Melton doesn't look ready to be out there. I kind of view Matt McDoanld the way we did when Matt Schilz was the QB at BG, as both were essentially incumbent starters. Under Clawson, he left Schilz and Matt Johnson battle through camp and gave Schilz the nod in the opener. He really did give him every chance to win the job. But after a couple of possessions that weren't productive in that Tulsa game, he put Johnson in, and it was immediately clear that Johnson was better than Schilz and he was a difference makers, and the offense came to life with him there. With Schilz we looked methodical and predictable. With Johnson we were multiple and explosive. I just feel and see a lot of what our offense looked like under Schilz when McDonald is out there now. Which isn't always bad, it's just not good enough most of the time either. And what's more, we don't have a Johnson on the depth chart to rescue us either. When we've put Davis or Melton out there, we regress from McDoanld. That's our problem and the biggest worry. That's the rub with the QB room right now IMO.

It goes without saying that McDonald will be QB1 next year. I can live with that, because like it or not, he's clearly our best opinion. When he is "on," he's a decent QB. He's shown progress and is tough as hell, and well, he's the best that we have right now. But what has bothered me for the past two years is, we don't have a single guy behind him pushing him or challenging for the spot themselves, and thus, it creates a huge worry if one, McDoanld goes down with an injury, and two, where the heck will we turn a year from now? I love the depth we've created and added through recruiting and the transfer portal at nearly every position, but QB is one position I feel we have a gaping hole and I have a major worry about.
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Even if the OL improves a ton...there's still the issue of that wonky throwing motion. McDonald had a lot of balls batted down by the DL last year. If you're a DL or a guy on a blitz, you don't have to be in the QB's face to get those...just throw your arms up
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Flipper wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:29 am Even if the OL improves a ton...there's still the issue of that wonky throwing motion. McDonald had a lot of balls batted down by the DL last year. If you're a DL or a guy on a blitz, you don't have to be in the QB's face to get those...just throw your arms up
Not to mention the 5-6 seconds our routes take to develop.
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