vs. Akron (1/20)

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The whole Athletic Department needs an overhaul…Greg Christopher set things in the wrong direction when he was hired. Kingston had the right attitude, just couldn’t back up all his promises. Moosbrugger is a loser…what you see from athletics is good enough for him.
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Moosbrugger being an alum is totally irrelevant. It doesn’t help BGSU in any way. He had been out west for 15 years prior and nobody had heard a peep about him. He kept Kingston Jr (Hughes) and gave him way too much power mostly because Moose is in over his head. Hell, he tried to cut the sport he “played” at BGSU. He isn’t even good at fundraising which is why he was hired. Scot Loeffler over Jim McElwain was always about Hughes love for Tom Brady and will to get back to Boston. Moosbrugger just went right along with it because he had no clue what to do. Unfortunately, Moosbrugger has a kid at BGSU and BGSU will probably use that as a reason to keep him around to further this nonsense.

That stance Huger takes when he leans on the scorers table while getting blown out. That’s the stance of a guy that did his favors, got his raise, and knows his boss doesn’t have to balls to do anything.
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People in the know will tell you he kept much of the status quo, simply because it was the least risky. He didn’t know what to do, so he came in and just kept things the way they were. That is fine to do if it’s a successful department and you have awesome people working for you. BG needs someone with a little more hustle.
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He let Hughes do what ever he wanted. Moosbrugger is really lucky that hasn’t come back to get him.
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Can a case be made for keeping Huger on as HC? I can't think of one...
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Money isn't the issue. Moosbrugger's ego is the issue. Next in line after Moosbrugger has a kid on the team. Huger won't be fired while Elsasser is on the roster.
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guest44 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:51 am Money isn't the issue. Moosbrugger's ego is the issue. Next in line after Moosbrugger has a kid on the team. Huger won't be fired while Elsasser is on the roster.
And now the team sucks so bad they're actually giving him a handful of minutes against actual MAC competition. It's ridiculous.

This Athletic Department and program are joke. D1 athletics being run like the local CYO team. Alumni at AD & HC of the hoops, admins getting their kids on the team. WTF...
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Diemilkweed wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:20 pm
mbenecke wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:21 pm Trimble up to 33 with 9 threes.

We’ve yet to do anything different with him defensively.

Guys in the huddle aren’t even listening during the timeout. Just watching the video board and chatting and laughing with each other. This is ugly.
Out rebound other team by 11 and lose by 25.

Guys doing this s**t in the huddle.

4 assists and 11 turnovers.

And this is simply a bit worse than normal, but really part of a very clear pattern.

The Frack money exists for a reason. Firing Huger is it.

Fire him NOW. Eat the damn contract. Get someone who might actually be able to coach. This season is done. Diggs and Plowden put off going pro for nothing at all. Pull off the band aid, admit the problem, and get rid of him now.

I have been watching this team since 1976. In all that time, the only truly good coach we have hired was also a drunk and a sexual predator who we let go after 1 season. Nobody else was more than mediocre. Larrinaga improved after he left, he was clueless when he was with us. Dakich was supposed to be a good hire but never mattered at all. Weinert was probably a better coach than those guys, because he won a similar % but the league was significantly better compared to the national scene than it is now. Orr does not bear mentioning.

I grew up playing with hotwheels in section 0 on the wooden triangles way up in the corner. I was a junior falcon David Greer's senior year where he ran the practices and got the team to a then MAC record for total wins in conference play and made the finals of the first ever MAC tourney only to lose to an OU team with a pair of bigs who went on to 10+ year careers in Europe. I went to college at BGSU. I met my wife there. I was thinking earlier to day that if we lose this game I am done for the season unless we fire Huger or make the MAC tourney. Then I decided that I am too invested in the players and I will watch for them.

I cannot watch us lose to allegedly inferior teams at home by 25 while laughing about it and ignoring the coach in the huddle. I cannot watch another 1:17 of basketball like the start of the 2nd half. I cannot watch this team until Huger is gone. I don;t care if we do make the MAC tourney. There will be no point in watching because he cannot win games that matter. BGSU cannot win games that matter.

When we actually use that money to get a coach worthy of it, maybe I will be back.

But maybe I won't even know. Because paying any attention to this team at all has been nothing but pain for 45 years. I don't know if I will even be aware of what is happening.

When you you playing with the hotwheels on the triangles in section 0, I was crawling under the seats in section J, row 4. I remember that OU game.
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The Elsasser stuff is dumb. He is a perfectly capable walk on and deserves a roster spot. Now the issue with him playing as regularly as he is I totally get. And I totally don't understand why he is out there. He should really only be used in emergencies. We seem to be having lots of emergencies. Way too many for a team that started this season with 15 scholarship players.
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The Elsasser stuff is dumb. So is giving a roster spot to Steve Watson's kid (Loyola Chicago AD). Win basketball games, then do the favors later.
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Pulling a player with 2 first half fouls for the remainder of the half, every single time without exception is ….
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In a vacuum Elsasser is probably on par with many of the other walk-ons that we typically keep around.

But this isn't a vacuum and I'll never be able to see it as a "coincidence" that the best walk-on we could find also happened to be the son of an AD higher up. Him getting PT is also bizarre, although I suppose COVID has thrown curveballs all over the place.

At the end of the day his presence and play has almost no bearing on the actual state of this team. But it does seem like a data point worth mentioning when you're trying to figure out what we're actually trying to accomplish as a D1 basketball program. Because as somebody who watches nearly every minute of every game we sure as hell don't seem like winning is a high priority. The fact that this program got injected with $600-800k/yr in additional funding and the needle has not moved one bit is insane.
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I would argue the needle has moved. It has moved the wrong direction every single day since the extension and raise were given in May of 2019. Add in the Frye stuff, and I'm not sure what Huger has done right since.
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hammb wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:13 am In a vacuum Elsasser is probably on par with many of the other walk-ons that we typically keep around.

But this isn't a vacuum and I'll never be able to see it as a "coincidence" that the best walk-on we could find also happened to be the son of an AD higher up. Him getting PT is also bizarre, although I suppose COVID has thrown curveballs all over the place.

At the end of the day his presence and play has almost no bearing on the actual state of this team. But it does seem like a data point worth mentioning when you're trying to figure out what we're actually trying to accomplish as a D1 basketball program. Because as somebody who watches nearly every minute of every game we sure as hell don't seem like winning is a high priority. The fact that this program got injected with $600-800k/yr in additional funding and the needle has not moved one bit is insane.
He was the best player on the local high school team. He is 6-4

Averaged 21.0 points and 6.0 rebounds as a senior
Averaged 19.0 points and 5.0 rebounds as a junior
Posted averages of 15.0 points and 4.0 rebounds as a sophomore

If he wasn't Elsassers kid he would make perfect sense to be a walk on.
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Globetrotter, now do Jackson Watson?
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