If you were the Coach/AD what would you do differently?

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Nobody believed in Mike Jinks quite like Schadenfraud. He will always believe in him.
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guest44 wrote: Sat Feb 05, 2022 2:46 pm Nobody believed in Mike Jinks quite like Schadenfraud. He will always believe in him.
Do we have a mod anymore? Can we ban this guy?
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A normal school would already have a short list of potential ADs ready to go and a buyout scenario for Huger. I don't believe that our president/board of trustees have given this one thought. The AD search will go into August making keeping Huger inevitable. College basketball isn't normal anymore and we could easily replace a head coach in June-July. Most of the current guys will be back and random studs will be on the transfer portal at their whim.

The new coach would have a veteran team for a year and then be able to put his mark on his squad with a whole bunch of schollies. He would start his second year with a very experienced veteran backcourt.

2022-2023 Scholarships 1
1 Curtis 6-4 SR Metheny 5-11 So Lightfoot Fr
2 Fields 6-2 Sr Mills 6-3 JR
3 Fulcher 6-2 So Young 6-6 So
4 Turner 6-7 Jr Etim 6-9 Fr
5 Reece 6-8 SR Kulackovskis 6-9 Sr O'Neal 6-7 SR

None of those Srs are transferring....Maybe O'Neal if he doesn't get minutes.....and I doubt any of the young guys move on.

2023-2024 Scholarships 6
1 Metheny 5-11 Jr Lighfoot So
2 Fulcher 6-2 Jr
3 Mills 6-3 SR Young 6-6 Jr
4 Turner 6-7 Sr
5 Etim 6-9 So
2024-2025 Scholarships 8

With Larranaga still coaching I think it's a pretty easy gamble that a fired Huger ends up coaching next year as an assistant somewhere.

The first question I would have for the new AD interviewing would be "Who is on your short list for coaching hires in football and basketball".....followed closely by "If I am an alum or a townie why should I care about these programs....how would you make me care?"

I have realized that I am just tired of this team and I am done paying attention. I used to go to verbal commits daily. Now I just don't care. It doesn't matter who Huger recruits. He could get the best recruit in the country and he would be spoiled here. This offseason was fun but pretty apparent it was done with no rhyme or reason.
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With what I've learned about the BG athletic dept over the years I think you're probably right globe. The revenue sports have ranged from God awful to almost meh over the past 5+ yrs and they've shown zero signs they know how, or even care, to improve that.

The fan experience stuff has been horrendous for years.

It's a real sad state of affairs when the people that care enough about the programs to spend countless hours posting about it online cannot find the time to care about actually watching the games.
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Globetrotter wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:17 pm The AD search will go into August
Are you saying there will be a search?
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I’ve heard Moosbrugger is out from a couple good sources. I’ll believe it when I see it. The next AD has to be good…they can’t mess it up again.
The department has been s**t since Christopher came in. His incompetence set the department on this path. The indifference from the fans and community is only getting worse.
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TommyG wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:00 pm I’ve heard Moosbrugger is out from a couple good sources. I’ll believe it when I see it. The next AD has to be good…they can’t mess it up again.
The department has been s**t since Christopher came in. His incompetence set the department on this path. The indifference from the fans and community is only getting worse.
It simply must happen. The leadership of that department has been a dumpster fire for too long. I don't solely blame Moose, he just didn't actually change anything, it was dumpster fire before his arrival.

The fan apathy stems largely from the apathy towards winning in the revenue sports but it does go beyond that. The mudhens right up the road have made gamedays an event worth planning a weekend day around even in years the tigers stocked them with the worst talent in the IL. You just have to get people that know what it takes to make the events something families want to attend.

I'm a die hard. I've taken my kid to BG sports since he was 3mos old. He begs to go to the games for the sake of going to the games. Most families need more than that.
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If Moose is out in May...we'll have one more year of Loeffler and Huger. A new hire isn't going to walk in the door and start firing people right off unless they have to.

Neither Huger nor Loeffler strike me as being "big" enough for their job. Nothing about them projects competence..at least that's my impression
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They need to get away from trying to hire “fundraisers for ADs.
Hire someone who can bring some accountability back to the department in all phases and focus on reconnecting with the community.
Christopher got all this credit for getting the Stroh Center built….literally 95% of the money was donated before he showed up. Then he and Elsasser approved a floor plan that made everyone walk up 100 steps to get the the concourse and forgot to put drainage in.
Yeah that’s right….they has to spend another million bucks because they kept getting flooding on the practice court and in the locker room area. Apparently drainage needed to be connected to the water hazards on the golf course and it was overlooked.
Just hire a competent individual who isn’t afraid to demand some performance from athletic staff and coaches. Then focus on simple things like parking, concessions, referee microphones, etc.
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But will all the coaches and administrators kids get roster spots with a competent AD?
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Maybe they will hire Elsasser
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guest44 wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 9:37 pm But will all the coaches and administrators kids get roster spots with a competent AD?
This is a stupid and irrelevant point that people keep bringing up for some reason. Look at the end of any college basketball bench and it is the same thing. KU had Bill Self and Danny Manning's son on the bench at the same time.

Elsasser is a decent player and if his name were something different no one would have an issue. Him and Matt Fox are the exact same talent level. If Watson's bench spot is ever in need we are so far gone it doesn't matter. If Watson and Ethan Good played 1 on 1 it would be an even game but people got all gitty when Good got in.
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Globetrotter wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 6:53 pm As far as where to look for a coach, I would go someone who got a chance at a higher level, preferably Big 10 and was fired. I think we are a very good destination for a few things 1) low stress-there is no media covering the team so that helps and it's very hard to get fired, you have time
I couldn’t disagree with you more. Retreads almost never work. Lou Orr is a prime example. If someone wasn’t successful somewhere else, what makes you think they’ll turn it around here?

I would go the assistant route. Jans was a great example. Need a program builder who can coach.

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Jans is a great coach. It’s too bad Kingston and Hughes didn’t have the guts to address the drinking in public. Especially when it was happening a month after he was hired around both of them. The Moosbrugger culture is here. Hughes hires the football coach. Everyone’s kid gets a chance, and one sniff of success you get an contract extension.

I wish Elsasser were Ethan Good. When Bowling Green wins like Bill Self has, then start giving the kids roster spots. Good didn’t play meaningful minutes. Instead Elsasser plays in the first half yesterday just as the game gets away in a must win game. He played in the first of a MAC Tourmant quarterfinal last year. If he is playing, Bowling Green is losing unless it’s one of the Carlow, Ohio Wesleyan, Lourdes, Bluffton, or Tiffin’s. No standards.
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guest44 wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:02 am Jans is a great coach. It’s too bad Kingston and Hughes didn’t have the guts to address the drinking in public. Especially when it was happening a month after he was hired around both of them. The Moosbrugger culture is here. Hughes hires the football coach. Everyone’s kid gets a chance, and one sniff of success you get an contract extension.

I wish Elsasser were Ethan Good. When Bowling Green wins like Bill Self has, then start giving the kids roster spots. Good didn’t play meaningful minutes. Instead Elsasser plays in the first half yesterday just as the game gets away in a must win game. He played in the first of a MAC Tourmant quarterfinal last year. If he is playing, Bowling Green is losing unless it’s one of the Carlow, Ohio Wesleyan, Lourdes, Bluffton, or Tiffin’s. No standards.
No one thinks walk ons should play.
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