Gordon and Reece Dismissed

[TommyG]

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I'm open to a migration. That Bowling Green board is ready to go. The owner of the site is somewhat engaged, and he would let us customize the graphics as has been done for some of the other MAC boards there (including Toledo and Northern Illinois).

They also allow users to rank each others' reputation. That functionality could help us here.

As for Grant: He is on Twitter, if that helps.

I'd rather stay here and make this place better. But if this board is an unmoderated zombie where new members are not even permitted to join because of neglect, we may need to move.
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it kinda sounds like you want to bully people who you disagree with or find disagreeable...there is WAY too much of that today
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Schad is always right….if you disagree, that is on you and you should be blocked!

[TommyG]

Not surprising that the conversation with Moosbrugger was confusing…tough to try and discuss the situation with someone who doesn’t know what they are doing.
I have zero idea what happened to lead to the dismissal…something had to have occurred. I don’t have a problem with Moosbrugger supporting the decision, but he needs to be prepared to seriously discuss what’s going with those affected.

[guest44]

I would suggest trying to discuss with someone else in the athletic department, but one of those people has a kid on team who will be a main beneficiary of playing time with Reece and Gordon gone. Contact Rodney Rogers.

Office of the President
220 McFall Center
Bowling Green State University
Bowling Green, Ohio 43403-0010
Phone: 419-372-2211
[email protected]

[jpfalcon09]

I appreciate Mr. Reece's candid disclosure. If indeed what he says is true, I don't know how anyone would be able to play for Huger going forward without being worried you're going to be scapegoated if things go south. It's insane to me that no clear examples were given as to why Joe and Myron were dismissed. It's on par with working for an at-will employer who simply fires someone just because they can. Not someone I'd want to associate with.

The Moosbrugger incompetence stuff is hardly surprising from what I've been told by people who are close with the athletic department. I sure hope what I've been told is true and that he's on the way out later this year. It's obvious to me though that the department is a good ol' boys network. If the university wants to take athletics seriously then a change is desperately needed.

[Schadenfreude]

https://csnbbs.com/forum-477.html

I'm open to a migration. That Bowling Green board is ready to go. The owner of the site is somewhat engaged, and he would let us customize the graphics as has been done for some of the other MAC boards there (including Toledo and Northern Illinois).

They also allow users to rank each others' reputation. That functionality could help us here.

As for Grant: He is on Twitter, if that helps.

I'd rather stay here and make this place better. But if this board is an unmoderated zombie where new members are not even permitted to join because of neglect, we may need to move.

it kinda sounds like you want to bully people who you disagree with or find disagreeable...there is WAY too much of that today

That's not my view at all, and I honestly don't know where you are coming up with that.

[jpfalcon09]

https://csnbbs.com/forum-477.html

I'm open to a migration. That Bowling Green board is ready to go. The owner of the site is somewhat engaged, and he would let us customize the graphics as has been done for some of the other MAC boards there (including Toledo and Northern Illinois).

They also allow users to rank each others' reputation. That functionality could help us here.

As for Grant: He is on Twitter, if that helps.

I'd rather stay here and make this place better. But if this board is an unmoderated zombie where new members are not even permitted to join because of neglect, we may need to move.

it kinda sounds like you want to bully people who you disagree with or find disagreeable...there is WAY too much of that today

That's not my view at all, and honestly don't know where you are coming up with that.

Moving to another board doesn't make much sense. Moderators would probably cause too much additional drama, but I do agree sometimes there are insults on here that can cross the line and that should be policed in some fashion. The discussions on here need to be better at staying on topic as well, threads get hijacked all the time. It's still a good community with a lot of passionate people who don't always see eye to eye, but it's possible to have civil and reasonable debate in the face of that. No doubt our society as a whole has forgotten how to do that since the advent of social media.

[hammb]

https://csnbbs.com/forum-477.html

I'm open to a migration. That Bowling Green board is ready to go. The owner of the site is somewhat engaged, and he would let us customize the graphics as has been done for some of the other MAC boards there (including Toledo and Northern Illinois).

They also allow users to rank each others' reputation. That functionality could help us here.

As for Grant: He is on Twitter, if that helps.

I'd rather stay here and make this place better. But if this board is an unmoderated zombie where new members are not even permitted to join because of neglect, we may need to move.

it kinda sounds like you want to bully people who you disagree with or find disagreeable...there is WAY too much of that today

That's not my view at all, and honestly don't know where you are coming up with that.

Moving to another board doesn't make much sense. Moderators would probably cause too much additional drama, but I do agree sometimes there are insults on here that can cross the line and that should be policed in some fashion. The discussions on here need to be better at staying on topic as well, threads get hijacked all the time. It's still a good community with a lot of passionate people who don't always see eye to eye, but it's possible to have civil and reasonable debate in the face of that. No doubt our society as a whole has forgotten how to do that since the advent of social media.

To me the biggest issue on this message board is that most threads devolve into badmouthing of our Football/Basketball coaches and then the Athletic Director. But, at the end of the day, how can that NOT be the case? This Athletic Department has long felt like they set the cruise control at 65 and didn't care whether the road turned or not...and this thing is NOT a Tesla with autopilot. The "little things" have been issues for decades and have seemingly never been addressed. In 2 of the 3 biggest (only?) revenue sports the on field/court product has been somewhere between "meh" and "oh my god we might be the worst team in D1" for how long? We haven't won more than 4 football games in a year since 2015 and basketball has had 3 decent MAC seasons lately, but only once actually challenged for the MAC tourney. I think we all know Huger isn't the man to get us there, and before those 3 good years the Jans season was our only > .500 MAC season since 2012.

When you pretty much suck at basketball and football it's tough to expect the overall "vibe" of conversation to be much better than what it has been here, IMO. I try not to just be a woe-is-me Debbie Downer, but the products have been largely BAD.

[FalconTurf]

I would suggest trying to discuss with someone else in the athletic department, but one of those people has a kid on team who will be a main beneficiary of playing time with Reece and Gordon gone. Contact Rodney Rogers.

Office of the President
220 McFall Center
Bowling Green State University
Bowling Green, Ohio 43403-0010
Phone: 419-372-2211
[email protected]

The son of the assistant AD play neither center nor point. May indirectly get minutes but this did not open door to clear playing time. The son has been a Falcon his whole life and the father since the late 80’s - I’m certain they would prefer success over the *€#% show this season has become. Much cooler to play the last 2 minutes of a MAC championship game over this mess

[Flipper]

https://csnbbs.com/forum-477.html

I'm open to a migration. That Bowling Green board is ready to go. The owner of the site is somewhat engaged, and he would let us customize the graphics as has been done for some of the other MAC boards there (including Toledo and Northern Illinois).

They also allow users to rank each others' reputation. That functionality could help us here.

As for Grant: He is on Twitter, if that helps.

I'd rather stay here and make this place better. But if this board is an unmoderated zombie where new members are not even permitted to join because of neglect, we may need to move.

it kinda sounds like you want to bully people who you disagree with or find disagreeable...there is WAY too much of that today

That's not my view at all, and I honestly don't know where you are coming up with that.

Typically...the end result of "reputation rating" features on message boards is they're used to discredit and isolate people with a contrarian view to the popular kids. Personal attacks are unwelcome..but I've come to realize that people who engage in them are conceding the point because they're unable to respond to the argument.

I honestly don't see to much on here that I would have reacted to and addressed when I was a mod

[Flipper]

Been around for a long time...this board has existed in one form or another for 20+ years...like a lot of you...I have been here for all of it. In that 20+ years, I do not recall a time when BGSSU athletics...at least in the headline sports have been in such terrible shape. The athletic department has always taken that "screw it" attitude towards making game day an enjoyable experience at the Doyt and AA/Stroh Center, but they seem to have become completely apathetic' We're stuck with Loeffler...we're stuck with Huger. Neither seems to have any idea how to build a roster (I predict that at some point before September we will have as many TE's on the roster as OL) . Neither seems to have any real undertstanding about what it will take to fix the mess they preside over.

I 've never seen such a bleak outlook here...so yeah, people are pissed about it

[Coaches Corner]

Do you think that if the result of the Buffalo game would have been different, that Myron and Joe would still be on the team? If BG loses 95-85 they are probably still on the team? If BG wins they certainly are?

Huger had 10 plus minutes of clock time to avoid 112 points being scored. He could have slowed that game down. He kept pressing, he kept playing starters. He kept playing two of his best players Joe Reece and Myron Gordon. Then, after the game he is reading stats and is being asked about a record breaking amount of points being scored. Everything he and the coaches read on Twitter is about 112 points. Did Huger mention the code ofconduct to Joe after he played 18 minutes in that game? Or the next day?

Thank You for asking Me this question!!
Now let’s talk basketball.. Buffalo probably after watching enough film, saw that BGSU doesn’t make lay ups.and our guards are more than likely trying to get to the free throw line.. but miss the lay ups! Buffalo allowed the guards to get to the basket without fouling them and let them miss .. yet get the rebound and Go thus the rebound numbers! Huger got straight up out coached! Buffalo knew that our guards don’t make layups!! So let them miss get the ball and go .. We missed at least 20 layups that game! Now mind you as a coach if ANYONE misses WE running! You mess up you running suicides .. these kids don’t have any punishment for their mistakes…
Huger can NOT sub… he only subs if he sees you winded ….
No strategy! No nothing Buffalo put in a certain team when Joe was on and then played the other bigger faster when Matiss was in! Even the matchups were in favor of Buffalo!
They knew by the numbers ok Diggs shoots what maybe MAYBE 30% from the 3…. Let em shoot! They bet on him making that shot! But they know by the stats he misses more then he makes!
Not starting Joe worked in their favor because that’s where our point reduction is.. we averaged 80+ a game and dropped to 60/70 the last Joe was giving the team more productivity than Matiss !
Throw in some X’s and O’s It’s an easy Win for anyone who plays Huger! Now if he wants to be mad.. He needs to check himself.. Swallow his ego and see that he’s going about the Game all wrong! You can’t run and gun your way through College! The highest level of learning! And coaches gamble and look at the numbers … now if a kid gets hot and tears up the gym.. you can’t do anything about but play better D.. help side D! Deny the Ball!

Perfect example! I actually told Joe to start fronting the big on D Instead of just sitting back and letting him get the ball and back you down!
Basketball 101 if a Big dribbles the guards are supposed to be on that mug like working 3rd shift high on energy drinks and coffee! No big should dribble Our big down and NO help! The closest guard drops down.. the other guards! See man see ball Cut off the passing lane.. and watch the cutters!
That’s middle school basketball! Our guards may as well pass out tickets popcorn and a soda and escort them to the basket! They constantly are flat footed watching whatever happens then react!


Now deep sigh… I’m into this game!
Never Ever once did Huger after the game say anything to Joe, while in the meeting Joe actually stated that he needed to finish around the basket and he missed 2 free throws! So not ever did he say after that game or any game, Joe was acting out!
Now he and I talked once and he asked me about Joes energy… I’m still to this day trying to understand that mess, My Son plays HARD.. but he’s quiet! He talks smack.. but he’s chill .. now losing, hell No, he’s never happy about that! Especially when he came here to help them Win! So his demeanor is just chill… If Huger expects a kid to be all playful when he’s losing.. I have to seriously question intentions there!
You can’t put a label on passion! Never has Joe slammed doors or threw a chair or acted out ! Maybe that’s what Huger wanted! Act a fool .. but Joe is always poised! Head heavy but still high..
Joe was told about this code of conduct and let go at the same time! No warnings, no right up.. nothing! One conversation but even then I had to explain to coach Joes not a cheerleader he’s going to support his team! But when you are down by 30! Do you really jump and shoot after you hit one shot! And your coach has not made any adjustments.. you just exchange baskets! But again down by 30-20 !
Embarrassing yes.. but don’t blame kids for your inability to coach them into a Win!

Again Joe and Myron were told about their lack of following whatever code their is on the very day they were dismissed!

[guest44]

Have you received the code of conduct letter yet?

[Flipper]

Kinda disturbing to hear that Gordon got the gate while he's in the midst of dealing with a personal issue....

[hammb]

Kinda disturbing to hear that Gordon got the gate while he's in the midst of dealing with a personal issue....

Yeah it feels like we've FINALLY reached the point where most people will at least verbally acknowledge that mental health is a real thing. But still nobody gives a s**t about it when given the opportunity to actually act upon it. Sad

[Globetrotter]

Do we have any idea what his buyout actually is?