Gordon and Reece Dismissed

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The bigger deal here is not the rest of the season. Joe Reece has another entire year of eligibility. He was maybe the best big man we have had in 5 years?
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If you change the coach it’s a reset - the current roster means nothing. As this year appears to spiral out of control I foresee mass exodus. That will signal how bad it has gotten. The transfer portal allows exit instead wasting their last year or 2 in rebuild
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FalconTurf wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:08 pm If you change the coach it’s a reset - the current roster means nothing. As this year appears to spiral out of control I foresee mass exodus. That will signal how bad it has gotten. The transfer portal allows exit instead wasting their last year or 2 in rebuild
A reset seems needed at this point. I think there will be a mass exodus regardless of who holds the coaching position. At least a new person, if it's the right person, could bring in some talent via the portal.
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BG rarely does this, but you’d want a quick hire. Fire Huger, one week later new coach is hired. I would think the players would welcome the chance to at least see who the new coach is and what they are about. If the search drags on for a month, kids are going to get nervous and look for a different situation. It would just have to be a supervised and organized transition. A decent AD could do that…Moosbrugger can not.
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I won't be surprised if Moosbrugger is retained and Huger is given another year. Not saying it's right but these are BG alumnus and I see that as a big point in their favor. Plus, they can point to Covid and say that stunted momentum. Huger can point to removing players and they will get the benefit of the doubt. BGSU administration isn't showing signs its motivated in becoming a winning institution.
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Buckeye Bullitt 93 wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 12:26 pm If I could go back in time I'd go into Reverends on that fateful night and throw my body in front of that attempted arse grab, and change the course of BGSU basketball history.
Laughed out loud at this one. If only.
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jpfalcon09 wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 11:10 am
Globetrotter wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 11:00 am Do we have any idea what his buyout actually is?
From what I found, last updated in October 2019.

Buyout if Fired Without Cause: 100% of remaining money owed
Buyout if Coach Terminates Contract: $150,000 through March 31, 2020; $125,000 if between April 1, 2020 and March 31, 2021

Then this nugget haha.

Contract Term Ends: March 31, 2024; contract term will automatically extend one year if team receives an invitation to the NCAA Tournament or NIT.

Believe his base is $415K so if he's canned, university is on the hook for at least $830K.
Given the Frack money, just eat his damn contract.
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Flipper wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 11:33 am
Schadenfreude wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 11:22 am
Flipper wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 10:03 am Typically...the end result of "reputation rating" features on message boards is they're used to discredit and isolate people with a contrarian view to the popular kids.
We have one pesty contributor here whose anonymous takes and personal grudges are so consistently toxic and intellectually dishonest that a sizable chunk of the people left here have blocked him. But the pest himself faces no consequences.

Reputation ratings could help. It isn't bullying to suggest that people should have some accountability for what they say. Post consistently ill-informed or dishonest takes, and your reputation may suffer. Free speech doesn't mean freedom from all consequences.
So you want to move elsewhere to rid yourself of one poster you could just put on ignore? Seems like an overreaction
And that right there is a dishonest argument. That pretends that his last comment about 1 person was the totality of the reasoning - and it is far from it.

Please try to maintain some level of intellectual honesty when debating some4one. This was a very weak effort.
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BillyLP wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 12:39 pm Wasn't it mentioned by someone on here with some inside info that it's pretty sure Moose is not going to be extended? At this point, if I had to choose, I'd let Huger go, preferably three days ago before he made the dumb decision to cut two players with three games to go. Like Flip mentioned, Loeffler at least has a plan to reach his goals, whether it ends up being successful or not. Huger seems to be drowning because he tread water for too long.
I'd let Huger go now and reinstate Reece and Gordon.
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Diemilkweed wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 3:44 pm
Flipper wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 11:33 am
Schadenfreude wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 11:22 am
Flipper wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 10:03 am Typically...the end result of "reputation rating" features on message boards is they're used to discredit and isolate people with a contrarian view to the popular kids.
We have one pesty contributor here whose anonymous takes and personal grudges are so consistently toxic and intellectually dishonest that a sizable chunk of the people left here have blocked him. But the pest himself faces no consequences.

Reputation ratings could help. It isn't bullying to suggest that people should have some accountability for what they say. Post consistently ill-informed or dishonest takes, and your reputation may suffer. Free speech doesn't mean freedom from all consequences.
So you want to move elsewhere to rid yourself of one poster you could just put on ignore? Seems like an overreaction
And that right there is a dishonest argument. That pretends that his last comment about 1 person was the totality of the reasoning - and it is far from it.

Please try to maintain some level of intellectual honesty when debating some4one. This was a very weak effort.
Yeah...he pretty much boiled his argument down to issues with one person so...no...you should try harder...or don't...maybe just pet your dog...
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Diemilkweed wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 3:47 pm
BillyLP wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 12:39 pm Wasn't it mentioned by someone on here with some inside info that it's pretty sure Moose is not going to be extended? At this point, if I had to choose, I'd let Huger go, preferably three days ago before he made the dumb decision to cut two players with three games to go. Like Flip mentioned, Loeffler at least has a plan to reach his goals, whether it ends up being successful or not. Huger seems to be drowning because he tread water for too long.
I'd let Huger go now and reinstate Reece and Gordon.
Mooseberger must go first. When new coaches are hired they need to be the new AD’s hires - no blame on the previous AD.

Plus his failure to improve game day (should be easier with even smaller crowds). If the next Stroh, Frack, etc. strolls in the Stroh eill they get the same welcome. I’ll suggest Falcon Friendly is handled solely by Freida and Freddie.
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Flipper wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 4:15 pm Yeah...he pretty much boiled his argument down to issues with one person so...no...you should try harder...or don't...maybe just pet your dog...
Well, for starters, much of this board has a similar issue with this individual.

But we have other issues. Perhaps the single biggest one: Not a single new account was created on this site in 18 months until Grant finally showed up and (I assume) worked his magic. It appears as if the owner (whoever it is) was so asleep at the switch that he was unwilling to handle even the most basic responsibility of approving requests for new accounts for people who want them.

I don't want to migrate to another board. I know how much this site has meant to Grant. We have a lot of history here. I'd rather stay and make this place better.

But we have an absentee landlord right now. When the roof leaks or the basement floods, he doesn't even answer the phone. It's a problem.

This place is turning into a slum.
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I'd be interested to find out if the current landlord is willing to give up ownership.
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Schadenfreude wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 6:34 pm [quote=Flipper post_id=443112 time=<a href="tel:1645218957">1645218957</a> user_id=19]
Yeah...he pretty much boiled his argument down to issues with one person so...no...you should try harder...or don't...maybe just pet your dog...
Well, for starters, much of this board has a similar issue with this individual.

But we have other issues. Perhaps the single biggest one: Not a single new account was created on this site in 18 months until Grant finally showed up and (I assume) worked his magic. It appears as if the owner (whoever it is) was so asleep at the switch that he was unwilling to handle even the most basic responsibility of approving requests for new accounts for people who want them.

I don't want to migrate to another board. I know how much this site has meant to Grant. We have a lot of history here. I'd rather stay and make this place better.

But we have an absentee landlord right now. When the roof leaks or the basement floods, he doesn't even answer the phone. It's a problem.

This place is turning into a slum.
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A certain someone just wants to be able to tattle on anyone who questions one of his posts or is critical of Loeffler. Same guy who calls people “Trolls” and “Pests” but also complains about personal attacks.
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