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Schadenfreude wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 6:32 pm This was a very interesting part of the story...
David Briggs, The Blade, wrote: While athletic director Bob Moosbrugger expressed support for Huger and
excitement about the next wave of recruits, I asked him if Bowling Green is
committed to the coach for next season.

“I’ll discuss that with coach Huger, and president Rogers, and I will discuss
that after the season is done,” he said.
If that's really how Moos answered that question from Briggs, Moos seems to be giving himself quite a bit of space to think about the leadership question in men's basketball. (I mean, why else loop President Rogers into that answer? Why not just say Huger's future is secure?)

Yes, $1.2 million (or whatever the figure is) is a lot of money. On the other hand, I do wonder how long Coach Huger will want to keep trying to bring home a MAC title.

At some point, he might decide it's worth letting someone else give it a try. Sometimes, people decide they've had enough. Some of you may remember that this is more or less how Don Nehlen -- another Bowling Green alumni -- walked away from the head football coaching job in the late 1970s.

Huger is said to be a super nice man. He's also a Bowling Green man. Some of us here probably shared classes with him back in the day.

Given that Moos and Huger are Bowling Green graduates from the same era, it wouldn't surprise me if the two were able to have a good honest conversation about how to plan a smooth transition if both were on the same page about that. I'm thinking out loud here, but perhaps Moos could give Huger enough time to find another job, which would give Moos some time to line up some options as a replacement.

But who knows? The man has three years left. That's a long time and a lot of money. Perhaps in a couple of weeks, Moos, Huger, and Rogers will all compare notes and decide to stay the course for now.
Another bad post from our guy who wants to control the website and ban people he doesn’t agree with.

Moosbrugger is probably scared that if he meets with Huger about his future, Huger will walk out of the meeting with an extra 3 years and a $50,000 raise.
Rodgers has to be there just so Moosbrugger doesn’t get confused and screw everything up like normal.
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Bowling Green State University has spent 14 of the last 15 years with either Louis Orr or Michael Huger as coach. In that time 3 contract extensions given.

Combined MAC record 113-128. Sadly Orr has the better winning percentage of the two.

1 NIT
1 CIT
1 CBI

Bill Frack money just being used and abused as a slush fund.

Any guesses on whether Loeffler got the same secret extension or was this just Huger and his agent taking advantage of Moosbrugger and the Frack money again?
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Funny that Moosbrugger got the same one year covid extension. Obviously the university feels comfortable in handing out meritless raises and extensions. Might be the worst run athletic department in the country. Begs the question if Loeffler, Eigner, Fralick, etc. got the same treatment.

Unbelievable. I refuse to believe there's even a bar for success that any programs are being measured against.
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Sad part this isn’t near the end of it. This has been years in the making.
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I went out and watched the OU game this week and came away happy. The game was entertaining and exciting. I got my money's worth. I no longer am hung up on getting back to the NCAA tournament where we would be placed with a poor seed and virtually no chance of doing much other than being beaten soundly. Yeah, it would be a fun week leading up to a game like that. But really is that what we have been hoping for these last 54 years? Seems a bit absurd.
OU is a good team and watching Sears and Vander Plas was a treat. Wonderful talent in the league year in and out. I have always marveled at the athleticism passing through the league down through the years. I look forward to seeing BG basketball for years to come and pull for the home team and the league in general.

Same goes for football... When I think about our little community having a tremendous university with a beautiful campus and a DI football team going to the Rose Bowl next fall to play UCLA I feel a sense of pride.

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jpfalcon09 wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:45 am Funny that Moosbrugger got the same one year covid extension. Obviously the university feels comfortable in handing out meritless raises and extensions. Might be the worst run athletic department in the country. Begs the question if Loeffler, Eigner, Fralick, etc. got the same treatment.

Unbelievable. I refuse to believe there's even a bar for success that any programs are being measured against.
You thought the voluntary salary cuts (givebacks?) during Covid were from the goodness of their hearts? I myself would not have taken the cut without getting something in return.
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I also left the game Tuesday happy. It was entertaining and nice to get a win. Certainly I've always enjoyed watching MAC basketball as a whole. Otherwise I wouldn't have attended 100s of games in person spending thousands of dollars on MAC hoops.

Still, I cannot just sit back and be prideful of the mere existence of Division 1 athletics in BG. Especially given the fact that so little of the department actually FEELS like a Division 1 program. The MAC has won games in the last 3 NCAA tournaments. I effing hate UT, but that team is a matchup nightmare for almost anybody in D1 and has a legit shot of winning a game as well (OU could too, but they're more volatile). BG has a budget up there with the best in this conference and if we actually gave a damn about spending the money the RIGHT way there is zero reason that we couldn't also become a team capable of winning a game or two in the dance.
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pdt1081 wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 8:36 am
jpfalcon09 wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:45 am Funny that Moosbrugger got the same one year covid extension. Obviously the university feels comfortable in handing out meritless raises and extensions. Might be the worst run athletic department in the country. Begs the question if Loeffler, Eigner, Fralick, etc. got the same treatment.

Unbelievable. I refuse to believe there's even a bar for success that any programs are being measured against.
You thought the voluntary salary cuts (givebacks?) during Covid were from the goodness of their hearts? I myself would not have taken the cut without getting something in return.
No, I've sort of feared all along that they tacked on a year in those cuts. It's just so sooo shortsighted and stupid. You saved tens of thousands in initial cashflow to spend an extra couple hundred thousand later on rudderless programs.

It's exactly what I would expect a terrible Athletic Director to do, so nobody should be even remotely surprised it's EXACTLY what Moose did.
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pdt1081 wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 8:36 am [quote=jpfalcon09 post_id=443634 time=<a href="tel:1646311541">1646311541</a> user_id=830]
Funny that Moosbrugger got the same one year covid extension. Obviously the university feels comfortable in handing out meritless raises and extensions. Might be the worst run athletic department in the country. Begs the question if Loeffler, Eigner, Fralick, etc. got the same treatment.

Unbelievable. I refuse to believe there's even a bar for success that any programs are being measured against.

You thought the voluntary salary cuts (givebacks?) during Covid were from the goodness of their hearts? I myself would not have taken the cut without getting something in return.
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I always laughed at the positive “Loeffler is paying 100k for nutrition to stay during Covid” coverage. If you don’t think he is getting that money back and then some, your just naive.
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They certainly weren’t going to be voluntary from Michael Huger. His eyes have been on that Frack money from very early on. The money is spent on games less and less each year. Once he realized how easy it was no need to bring back Junior Falcons or camps. No need to fundraise. Just dip into the pot. Do some favors for some administrators and just keep it moving.
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pdt1081 wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 8:36 am
jpfalcon09 wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:45 am Funny that Moosbrugger got the same one year covid extension. Obviously the university feels comfortable in handing out meritless raises and extensions. Might be the worst run athletic department in the country. Begs the question if Loeffler, Eigner, Fralick, etc. got the same treatment.

Unbelievable. I refuse to believe there's even a bar for success that any programs are being measured against.
You thought the voluntary salary cuts (givebacks?) during Covid were from the goodness of their hearts? I myself would not have taken the cut without getting something in return.
Forfeiting bonuses isn't giving back salary though, that's non-guaranteed additional income at the start of the every year. It's great of Michael to do what he did and help out the department, but the department doesn't owe it to him to reciprocate it back in the form of a one-year extension.

I didn't get my work bonus for 2020 because of covid. You think my employer decided to make up for it by giving me a bigger merit increase in 2021? Fat chance.

It's a poorly run department and that's a prime of example of it.
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jpfalcon09 wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 8:48 am
pdt1081 wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 8:36 am
jpfalcon09 wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:45 am Funny that Moosbrugger got the same one year covid extension. Obviously the university feels comfortable in handing out meritless raises and extensions. Might be the worst run athletic department in the country. Begs the question if Loeffler, Eigner, Fralick, etc. got the same treatment.

Unbelievable. I refuse to believe there's even a bar for success that any programs are being measured against.
You thought the voluntary salary cuts (givebacks?) during Covid were from the goodness of their hearts? I myself would not have taken the cut without getting something in return.
Forfeiting bonuses isn't giving back salary though, that's non-guaranteed additional income at the start of the every year. It's great of Michael to do what he did and help out the department, but the department doesn't owe it to him to reciprocate it back in the form of a one-year extension.

I didn't get my work bonus for 2020 because of covid. You think my employer decided to make up for it by giving me a bigger merit increase in 2021? Fat chance.

It's a poorly run department and that's a prime of example of it.
I agree that this was a short-sighted decision, but from people I've talked to at several other athletic departments around the country, this was extremely common and not just a BG thing.
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BillyLP wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 11:26 am
jpfalcon09 wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 8:48 am
pdt1081 wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 8:36 am
jpfalcon09 wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:45 am Funny that Moosbrugger got the same one year covid extension. Obviously the university feels comfortable in handing out meritless raises and extensions. Might be the worst run athletic department in the country. Begs the question if Loeffler, Eigner, Fralick, etc. got the same treatment.

Unbelievable. I refuse to believe there's even a bar for success that any programs are being measured against.
You thought the voluntary salary cuts (givebacks?) during Covid were from the goodness of their hearts? I myself would not have taken the cut without getting something in return.
Forfeiting bonuses isn't giving back salary though, that's non-guaranteed additional income at the start of the every year. It's great of Michael to do what he did and help out the department, but the department doesn't owe it to him to reciprocate it back in the form of a one-year extension.

I didn't get my work bonus for 2020 because of covid. You think my employer decided to make up for it by giving me a bigger merit increase in 2021? Fat chance.

It's a poorly run department and that's a prime of example of it.
I agree that this was a short-sighted decision, but from people I've talked to at several other athletic departments around the country, this was extremely common and not just a BG thing.
I don't doubt that it was relatively commonplace.

However, across the landscape of college sports I'm curious how many of those contract extensions were granted to coaches who have already looked like they had overstayed their welcome. And of those how many were from Athletic Departments that struggle to find the finances to buy out coaches who need to be fired.

My fingers aren't as much on the pulse of our other programs, but adding more time to Huger's contract when it already felt like we were simply waiting for those years to pass seems foolish. Previous belief was that firing him would mean using a year of the Frack dollars to pay his buyout (money that is already earmarked to give him his outlandish salary). Now it looks like a buyout would be far more than just the Frack dollars. I don't think it's likely we have the boosters to find north of $1.2m to fire him. I thought it was less than 5% chance he was going to be fired anyhow...now it feels like less than .01% chance.

Which just means more wasted years as a BG fan.
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At those other schools did they disclose the contract extensions? At those other schools did they only do it in the sport with a endowment? Did they do it in sports where the coach has a losing record in conference?

What schools specifically in which sports?
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