On some level this is fair. I guess my inability to truly believe it is the fact that I don't really see either Matheny, nor Fields, as real game changing players. And with all the transfers we actually had too many guards anyhow. I do think Matheny brings something to the offense that nobody else on the team could have, but as we saw when he was playing, it wasn't nearly enough. And he's definitely wouldn't have helped defensively. Fields would have likely been our best defender on the team this year, so we definitely did miss him.Matty B wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 12:30 pm COMPLETE devil's advocate for the sake of argument:
If you had told me before the season that we would play the entire season without our two starting guards, I think the consensus predictions on here would be: ".500 at best, hopefully sneak into Cleveland, be about as good as Ball State and Miami but not on the level of the big dogs"
Now, while we fell just short of that (and trust me, that matters), but that's pretty close to where we finished up. I mean hey, we were just 1 home win vs the worst team in the MAC on senior night away from getting to Cleveland, amirite guys!?!?
So while we should have probably lowered our expectations once Fields and Metheny went down, we know this team still did not play to potential with the remaining talent relative to the bottom half of the MAC. We were still a more talented team than CMU (and it should be us getting pummeled on Thursday morning instead of them lol), but some inexcusable losses (home vs WMU; epic collapse at Ball State in a game we were in control for the first 39:35) and some embarrassing performances (Buffalo, at Miami in a must win, at Toledo) made the season a true disappointment and makes this argument extremely difficult to make, but hell I tried.
Had you told me in the pre-season that we would play without Fields and have Matheny for less than half our games I would have probably expected the newcomers to fill their shoes and still put us in about the same place as I expected us to be WITH those guys. Even after having watched this season play out, as awful as we were, I'm not sure the difference between Fields/Matheny and seeing more of Mills/Curtis was truly a big deal. Gordon was our best guard and we kicked him off the team...



