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guest44 wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:29 pm Caleb Fields is gone.

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That's a shame but no hard feelings at all. Really liked having him around and I think he could find a spot with a contender in the A-10, American or Big East as a key bench role. Best of luck to him and hope he makes it to the tourney next season.
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I would assume that's the end of the transfers. There has never been a better time for a new coach to take over. The roster is basically a reset but with some decent pieces in place to be average next year.

1 Metheny 5-11 Jr/So 6.2p 2.8a 21.6(3%) 24.7m Lightfoot 6-0 R
2 Fulcher 6-2 Jr/So 5p 3.6r 36.6(3%) 18.4m Mills 6-3 Jr 4.4p 21.9(3%) 20.9m
3 Curtis 6-4 SR 9.5p 3r 3.1a 33(3%) 22.5m
4 Turner 6-7 Sr/Jr 6.6p 3.6r 37.5(3%) 17.8m Felt 6-8 R
5 O'Neal 6-7 SR 3.5p 9.5m Etim 6-8 Fr

You have a decent 4 guard rotation already with Lightfoot there as well. A decent F in Turner, Etim and Felt might be in a rotation right away at C.

A new coach would have anywhere from 4-6 scholarships to give out tomorrow depending on if Lightfoot and Felt still came and then 2-3 next year. You could rebuild this team within a year. The way the transfer portal is a well connected well thought of coach might be able to do it by November.
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I would assume that is not the end of the transfers.
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I don't have nearly enough faith in the talent remaining here to think there's any chance in hell we're even average short of a TREMENDOUS coaching job. I have a very low opinion of Huger's coaching, but one thing his style did (if you can call it a style) is allow individual talent to shine. Turner's numbers were never efficient but we knew he was talented. We were able to see exactly how Plowden could help a team, and also see his limitations, etc.

There is just nobody returning on this roster that I think has even 2nd team all MAC level individual talent. In fact, Young was one of the few guys I was genuinely interested in seeing how he could develop with more playing time, he had some big moments last year.

This roster is not good. Huger is a god awful coach, we all agree there, but unless we're bringing in the next Jim Donovan or something I doubt very seriously this team is even average in the MAC next year. WIth Huger at the helm this team should and will be picked bottom 2-3.
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guest44 wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:50 pm I would assume that is not the end of the transfers.
Why would anyone else transfer if Huger is back?
Metheny is talked about as best player on the team.
Mills started 23 games while scoring 4ppg and shooting 21% from 3.
Curtis has already transferred twice and will probably be the focal point of the offense no matter who the coach is.
Turner seems to be settling into a starting role at PF.
O'Neill has already transferred twice. He might be the starting C next year or transfer down I guess.
Fulcher could transfer but he seems well thought of too.
Etim might start at C.

I guess anything can happen but Young was the only one who wasn't progressing.
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hammb wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 2:37 pm I don't have nearly enough faith in the talent remaining here to think there's any chance in hell we're even average short of a TREMENDOUS coaching job. I have a very low opinion of Huger's coaching, but one thing his style did (if you can call it a style) is allow individual talent to shine. Turner's numbers were never efficient but we knew he was talented. We were able to see exactly how Plowden could help a team, and also see his limitations, etc.

There is just nobody returning on this roster that I think has even 2nd team all MAC level individual talent. In fact, Young was one of the few guys I was genuinely interested in seeing how he could develop with more playing time, he had some big moments last year.

This roster is not good. Huger is a god awful coach, we all agree there, but unless we're bringing in the next Jim Donovan or something I doubt very seriously this team is even average in the MAC next year. WIth Huger at the helm this team should and will be picked bottom 2-3.
It's basketball and we now have the easy transfer rule. A team can rebound quickly. If Huger or New coach could recruit a solid SF and C this year have a decent 8 man rotation. The biggest issue is Fulcher seems like the only guy with upside.
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Fulcher didn't progress after being named All Freshman Team the year before. Instead, he was recruited over by multiple transfers and produced less as a sophomore.
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Some interesting coach options.

My criteria would be someone who knows the area well. Runs an offense. Can connect with fans.

1. Ricardo Greer-Associate HC Dayton https://daytonflyers.com/sports/mens-ba ... greer/5186 Played at Pitt coaching at Dayton
2. Doug Wojcik-Assistant Coach MSU https://msuspartans.com/sports/mens-bas ... ojcik/1119 Head coach at Tulsa and College of Charleston
3. Saddi Washington-Michigan https://mgoblue.com/staff-directory/sad ... ngton/1579 Michigan Native coached at Oakland WMU Grad
4. Dustin Ford-Associate HC Akron https://gozips.com/sports/mens-basketba ... n-ford/891 Played and coached at OU, Asst at Akron for 5 years
5. Aaron Fuss-Associate HC Kent St https://kentstatesports.com/sports/mens ... n-fuss/881 History at OU, Ohio State and Kent St

Based on the tiny info I have I Greer would seem a great fit. Maybe a bit too similar to Huger as a long term professional overseas but stood out when reading up on him. Seems to connect really well to players and I think would bring some excitement to the program. Just started coaching in 2015 and already Associate HC at Dayton.
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guest44 wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:03 pm Fulcher didn't progress after being named All Freshman Team the year before. Instead, he was recruited over by multiple transfers and produced less as a sophomore.
Yeah, I'd be shocked if Fulcher stayed. I actually thought it would be Fields and Fulcher gone. Young surprised me a bit. I could see Fulcher going somewhere like Wright State or another Horizon League school and scoring a bunch.
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BillyLP wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:08 pm
guest44 wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:03 pm Fulcher didn't progress after being named All Freshman Team the year before. Instead, he was recruited over by multiple transfers and produced less as a sophomore.
Yeah, I'd be shocked if Fulcher stayed. I actually thought it would be Fields and Fulcher gone. Young surprised me a bit. I could see Fulcher going somewhere like Wright State or another Horizon League school and scoring a bunch.
I can't believe they would start Mills over him again? Right?
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If Huger is still the coach you will see multiple guards added to the roster via JUCO. So who knows?
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Globetrotter wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:07 pm Some interesting coach options.

My criteria would be someone who knows the area well. Runs an offense. Can connect with fans.

1. Ricardo Greer-Associate HC Dayton https://daytonflyers.com/sports/mens-ba ... greer/5186 Played at Pitt coaching at Dayton
2. Doug Wojcik-Assistant Coach MSU https://msuspartans.com/sports/mens-bas ... ojcik/1119 Head coach at Tulsa and College of Charleston
3. Saddi Washington-Michigan https://mgoblue.com/staff-directory/sad ... ngton/1579 Michigan Native coached at Oakland WMU Grad
4. Dustin Ford-Associate HC Akron https://gozips.com/sports/mens-basketba ... n-ford/891 Played and coached at OU, Asst at Akron for 5 years
5. Aaron Fuss-Associate HC Kent St https://kentstatesports.com/sports/mens ... n-fuss/881 History at OU, Ohio State and Kent St
I'm a "no thanks" on Wojcik. He got fired from CoC for being abusive towards players. I'd also prefer a younger coach.

I think Greer is a potential star but he's kind of high risk/high reward right now because of his lack of experience. I think he'd be a great recruiter but he would need to surround himself with a good x's and o's staff.

I'm not too excited about the others.
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BillyLP wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:23 pm
Globetrotter wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:07 pm Some interesting coach options.

My criteria would be someone who knows the area well. Runs an offense. Can connect with fans.

1. Ricardo Greer-Associate HC Dayton https://daytonflyers.com/sports/mens-ba ... greer/5186 Played at Pitt coaching at Dayton
2. Doug Wojcik-Assistant Coach MSU https://msuspartans.com/sports/mens-bas ... ojcik/1119 Head coach at Tulsa and College of Charleston
3. Saddi Washington-Michigan https://mgoblue.com/staff-directory/sad ... ngton/1579 Michigan Native coached at Oakland WMU Grad
4. Dustin Ford-Associate HC Akron https://gozips.com/sports/mens-basketba ... n-ford/891 Played and coached at OU, Asst at Akron for 5 years
5. Aaron Fuss-Associate HC Kent St https://kentstatesports.com/sports/mens ... n-fuss/881 History at OU, Ohio State and Kent St
I'm a "no thanks" on Wojcik. He got fired from CoC for being abusive towards players. I'd also prefer a younger coach.

I think Greer is a potential star but he's kind of high risk/high reward right now because of his lack of experience. I think he'd be a great recruiter but he would need to surround himself with a good x's and o's staff.

I'm not too excited about the others.
I just picked top assistants off the top teams in the area. Didn't realize that about Wojcik
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Safe to assume Huger is returning. Several other programs have already moved on from coaches and if BG was serious about a change, you'd hope they would want a crack at interviewing the best available candidates. Already have two conference members who have facilitated this, and Xavier did the same early this afternoon.
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