Excitement for 2022

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It sounds like the defense is really coming together. The offense will yet again go as far as the line will let it. If they indeed are able to run the ball a lot successfully that is a great sign. I'm hoping for the first solid BG team in WAY too long.
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Flipper wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:57 pm More self serving bullshit....we had a horrible line because they were young, but living with that is doing it the right way...now that they're experienced, we're going to bring in guys that are better and older. We didn't do that a year ago because the kids would have left. Like...they won't leave now that you're pushing them aside.

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Yeah that’s what I have said all along. We watched this division 2 line get experience all year for what to be cast aside for the transfers. In a perfect world yes they’ll hit the weight room and be all better for it in 2023. In the real world most of these guys will never start here again I’d guess.
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kdog27 wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:41 am In a perfect world yes they’ll hit the weight room and be all better for it in 2023. In the real world most of these guys will never start here again I’d guess.
The sales pitch to these players who started last year and get bumped this year seems to be: Stick with the program, keep working -- you know you are close -- and when the guy ahead of you graduates, you'll be ready.

I guess we'll see if it works. If it does, and these players stay in the program, then Coach Loeffler will have done a pretty nice sales job.
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He could have done the same "sales job " last year when we had a horrible line...there is no logical reason to have done what he did last year if he's bringing in guys to replace them this year
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Flipper wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:12 pm He could have done the same "sales job " last year when we had a horrible line...there is no logical reason to have done what he did last year if he's bringing in guys to replace them this year
His reason is that "If we would have done that, what would’ve happened is you would’ve lost those young players, and the next thing you know, you can never have the ability to be old."

I'm not certain, but I think that means he had only so many scholarships to give out, and he didn't want to be on this endless treadmill of filling his offensive line with new upper classman short timers.
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If you could lose them last year for sliding down the depth chart...you will more likely lose them this year for sliding down the depth chart. The traditional "right way" to build a line would have been to sit all those kids and let them mature.

He's talking nonsense...
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Flipper wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:27 pm If you could lose them last year for sliding down the depth chart...you will more likely lose them this year for sliding down the depth chart. The traditional "right way" to build a line would have been to sit all those kids and let them mature.

He's talking nonsense...
Correct. Last year , had he done it, the freshman would have had no where to go: you need film to get interest in the portal. Now they have experience and film, so they can take a chance on the portal. Also, they have tasted playing, now they have to sit. They are going backwards. Would have been wise to bring transfers in last year, both for development and win some games.
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Absolute nonsense. Before last season is when you use the transfer portal. Bring in some older offensive lineman and let the young guys redshirt or only fill in when needed. Schad’s point about the scholarships may be true, but that would point back to poor planning and roster construction. Obviously Loeffler is trying to make it seem like this has been the plan all along to save face.

I could be wrong, but I don’t think there is any guarantee these transfer are going to come in and make the line good or even average. With QB play being a question, they better be able to run. Relying on the passing game isn’t really an option.

Also I’ve said it before, I think the defense is going to take a step back. All the opposition has to do is take a couple shots downfield early and things start to open up. Depending on how motivated Chip Kelly is game 1, I think UCLA will absolutely embarrass the BG defense.
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One thing that wasn't double speak is that he set the expectation that they compete for a championship this season. To me, that means finishing top two in the MAC. Third place means taking a serious look at whether he stays, anything lower means he's gone.
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TommyG wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:45 pm Absolute nonsense. Before last season is when you use the transfer portal. Bring in some older offensive lineman and let the young guys redshirt or only fill in when needed. Schad’s point about the scholarships may be true, but that would point back to poor planning and roster construction. Obviously Loeffler is trying to make it seem like this has been the plan all along to save face.

I could be wrong, but I don’t think there is any guarantee these transfer are going to come in and make the line good or even average. With QB play being a question, they better be able to run. Relying on the passing game isn’t really an option.

Also I’ve said it before, I think the defense is going to take a step back. All the opposition has to do is take a couple shots downfield early and things start to open up. Depending on how motivated Chip Kelly is game 1, I think UCLA will absolutely embarrass the BG defense.
Scot's always been manipulating the narrative to fit what he's trying to sell. One note about the portal - the new rules went into effect in 2021, so even any transfers brought in for 2020 would have most likely sat the year out unless they got a waiver.

The line will be better just because it'll have more experience, but you're right that better could just mean average. The guys brought in weren't good enough to win spots at their original schools, so of course the question has to be asked just how good they really will be. It's a big gamble and it'll likely lead to more defections from the kids who started in '21.

BG will likely get boat raced no matter what against UCLA.
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roguewarrior wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:45 pm
Flipper wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:27 pm If you could lose them last year for sliding down the depth chart...you will more likely lose them this year for sliding down the depth chart. The traditional "right way" to build a line would have been to sit all those kids and let them mature.

He's talking nonsense...
Correct. Last year , had he done it, the freshman would have had no where to go: you need film to get interest in the portal. Now they have experience and film, so they can take a chance on the portal. Also, they have tasted playing, now they have to sit. They are going backwards. Would have been wise to bring transfers in last year, both for development and win some games.
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