Jans

[Falcon Commander]

Did the woman who Jans was playing grab a$$ with, file an official complaint with anyone?

That guy can coach...4 conference champs in 5 years, beat 5 seed UConn in the Dance.

Hmmmmm...

[guest44]

Nope. The woman in the video was at the bar with him and the grad assistant. The Tiller family was at the table next to them and took the video. Jans called her (the Tiller daughter) several names when approached about him being at the bar with a woman who was not his wife. The father Tiller threatened to release the video in a 3am email to Chris Kingston.

[Schadenfreude]

I'm glad to see Chris Jans landed on his feet.

And I'm glad Bowling Green showed him the door.

[BillyLP]

I'm glad to see Chris Jans landed on his feet.

And I'm glad Bowling Green showed him the door.

+1

[Globetrotter]

Firing him was a cowardly move. Actual leadership would have given him a leave of absence and come up with a solution for him to stay and land on his feet here. When you hire good people you don't fire them for their mistakes. Then the mistake costs you twice. If we truly discovered he was a bad person that wouldn't make it here then that's fine. That doesn't seem to have been the case.

[Hockey John]

Firing him was a cowardly move. Actual leadership would have given him a leave of absence and come up with a solution for him to stay and land on his feet here. When you hire good people you don't fire them for their mistakes. Then the mistake costs you twice. If we truly discovered he was a bad person that wouldn't make it here then that's fine. That doesn't seem to have been the case.

Firing him was absolutely the right move. Talk was that many of our players were going to transfer if he stayed. I want Bowling Green to stand for class not slime.

[Hammer]

The players were going to transfer because he was a hard nosed coach and they were used to being babied.

[guest44]

Actual leadership would have been Kingston and Hughes getting in front of his drinking in public and trying to stop instead of appearing in public with him while he was drinking. Kingston only found his leadership when his own job and image were on the line.

In the end good for Jans, made a mistake, got better, and beat cancel culture. Next stop is a P5 job.

[guest44]

Firing him was absolutely the right move. Talk was that many of our players were going to transfer if he stayed. I want Bowling Green to stand for class not slime.
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Speaking of slime. You must be furious at Pamela Conlin & Bob Moosbrugger for this slime behavior.

https://www.toledoblade.com/sports/bgsu ... 0220303107

[TommyG]

Actual leadership would have been Kingston and Hughes getting in front of his drinking in public and trying to stop instead of appearing in public with him while he was drinking. Kingston only found his leadership when his own job and image were on the line.

In the end good for Jans, made a mistake, got better, and beat cancel culture. Next stop is a P5 job.

This is the big question…if Jans was warned about his drinking in public by Kingston previously, then it was probably the correct move.
Regardless he’s a good coach and BG would’ve been a much better program with him at the helm.

[TommyG]

Firing him was absolutely the right move. Talk was that many of our players were going to transfer if he stayed. I want Bowling Green to stand for class not slime.

Speaking of slime. You must be furious at Pamela Conlin & Bob Moosbrugger for this slime behavior.

https://www.toledoblade.com/sports/bgsu ... 0220303107
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All I know is I wouldn’t donate a cent to BGSU if I saw this story.

[guest44]

They all knew the situation. They all knew Jans wife was staying in Wichita for one year for the daughter to finish high school. They all saw him at the home opening football game with plenty to drink. I first heard of the drinking a month after the hired where he was drinking at a sponsorship event in Toledo around several members of the athletic department.
The Tiller family had plenty of axe to grind to as they thought the son should have been a goalie on the BGSU hockey team.
The whole situation was stupid and preventable with grown ups in the room.

[Flipper]

f**k Jans...he had a nice opportunity and he threw it away because he couldn't or wouldn't address his behavior. Glad for him that he was able to do so and carry on as a productive member of society...but it sounds like he was having some pretty serious control issues before the night in question.

[BillyLP]

Actual leadership would have been Kingston and Hughes getting in front of his drinking in public and trying to stop instead of appearing in public with him while he was drinking. Kingston only found his leadership when his own job and image were on the line.

In the end good for Jans, made a mistake, got better, and beat cancel culture. Next stop is a P5 job.

This is the big question…if Jans was warned about his drinking in public by Kingston previously, then it was probably the correct move.
Regardless he’s a good coach and BG would’ve been a much better program with him at the helm.

I understood that there had been complaints about his drinking in public to the department previously, but I'm not sure if it was ever addressed directly with Jans. Regardless, Jans got treatment after his time at BG and rebounded. I'm really happy for him, but I don't think it would have been good for either party to keep him at the helm here.

[hammb]

I'm happy to see that Jans has righted his personal ship and found success. Good for him.

Firing him for his behavior was not only justified, but absolutely what I thought should happen at the time, and still think it was the proper course of action. Should things have been addressed internally before it got out of hand? Probably, yes. At the very least it should have been communicated that he cannot keep being seen intoxicated in public in such a small college town. I know Revs was my favorite hangout/restaurant in BG at the time and I started to find it odd that he was there literally every time I went in there. OF course he was often times just getting started on the drinks when we were heading out. Again, I thought it odd, but figured he had been busy at the office until late and needed to wind down. I was never there late enough to see anything out of line.

Either way, I have no idea if it was ever addressed with him or if they merely turned a blind eye to it until the video came out. It was wrong for them to turn a blind eye towards it because it was inevitable that something worse was going to materialize. But regardless once that something worse did materialize he needed to be let go.

But firing Chris Jans is NOT why BG hoops is in the place it's in. Jans was a find coach with some personal demons, but he was not the only good coach available to us then, nor is he now. The problem was that Mr. Frack passed away in between Jans's hiring and firing. So the morons in charge of BGSU undertook a "national search" and came upon an alum who was an assistant coach with zero demand as a coach and gave him the same lucrative contract that it took to lure a hot commodity like Jans to BG. THEN after a largely mediocre start to his tenure that BG alum had a good season that came from nowhere (remember we were selected LAST that year) and he screwed his alma mater by leveraging fake rumors of another job to get a RAISE from the already lucrative contract. Then he screwed his alma mater AGAIN by leveraging a global pandemic to tack on ANOTHER YEAR to his already lucrative contract.

Kudos to Jans, he is a very good basketball coach. There are plenty of other very good basketball coaches out there if the administration at BG had the wherewithal to actually look for them.