Briggs is right again

[Globetrotter]

Do you trust "Moose" to make a good hire? I don't....

Nope....But I'd rather try. Maybe he learned his lesson. Hard lessons are frustrating but maybe he would learn from it.

[Schadenfreude]

Maybe he learned his lesson.

What kind of lesson are you alluding to here?

[Globetrotter]

Maybe he learned his lesson.

What kind of lesson are you alluding to here?

Don't hire a coach that doesn't run an offense. That has no energy on the court. That doesn't get people in the seats with his energy off it.

Don't hire someone because they are the easy hire and an alum.

What did you think I was talking about?

[hammb]

Maybe he learned his lesson.

What kind of lesson are you alluding to here?

Don't hire a coach that doesn't run an offense. That has no energy on the court. That doesn't get people in the seats with his energy off it.

Don't hire someone because they are the easy hire and an alum.

What did you think I was talking about?

I have to think the Haas situation has probably taught him to stick his misappropriation of donor funds only to deceased donors. At least I would hope so.

Keep in mind you're talking to Schad who still thinks Loeffler was a good hire and that Huger deserved his first contract extension despite all evidence to the contrary in both respects.

[guest44]

He also learned that misappropriation of donor funds is not punishable. For himself or Pam Conlin.

[Schadenfreude]

Maybe he learned his lesson.

What kind of lesson are you alluding to here?

Don't hire a coach that doesn't run an offense. That has no energy on the court. That doesn't get people in the seats with his energy off it.

Don't hire someone because they are the easy hire and an alum.

What did you think I was talking about?

Moose didn't hire Huger. Chris Kingston did. Hence, my question.

[Flipper]

Moose extended his contract...he owns his presence here now

[guest44]

Moose extended his contract...he owns his presence here now

Extended his contract twice.

[Globetrotter]

Maybe he learned his lesson.

What kind of lesson are you alluding to here?

Don't hire a coach that doesn't run an offense. That has no energy on the court. That doesn't get people in the seats with his energy off it.

Don't hire someone because they are the easy hire and an alum.

What did you think I was talking about?

Moose didn't hire Huger. Chris Kingston did. Hence, my question.

He extended him twice.

[Schadenfreude]

Also, given that multiple people in this thread are now accusing Moose of misappropriating funds, it seems worth pointing out that The Blade has never accused him of that, certainly not in its March 12 story on the university's dispute with Gary Haas.

This is how BGSU Foundation President and CEO Pamela Conlin worded the situation in her Feb. 1, 2019, correspondence with Haas:

“As we have discussed, our review of the details associated with your 2014 commitment revealed a lack on our part of written documentation, specificity of gift designation and use, and updated communication that did not follow advancement best practices,” Conlin wrote in part. “Our stewardship of your commitment has not been good.

Neither Conlin nor Moose were employees of BGSU in 2014, when the parameters of that gift were documented. Indeed, the university was so untroubled by Moose's role in the matter that it awarded him a multiyear contract extension a little over a year after Conlin acknowledged the university's poor stewardship in writing to Haas.

The most reasonable interpretation of that Blade story is that the poor handling of this gift is essentially another Mike Jinks-type screw up under the previous athletic director. But I realize "reasonable" is not exactly this board's brand.

[hammb]

I agree it is very reasonable to assume that the poor handling of the gift began with Chris Kingston's leadership failing to properly document the parameters of the gift.

But beyond that your ability to wash Moosbrugger of that fiasco is the most UNreasonable thing on a board where nearly all of us are unreasonable from time to time.

Let us not forget that Moosbrugger's righthand man WAS employed here, in the same capacity, in 2014. You think Moosbrugger didn't know through his team how that money was supposed to be spent? And even if he DID not know for the first year or two of his employment here, we KNOW Conlin admitted to Haas in writing that they mis-handled the gift in 2019. In the quote you shared it also implies that they had had a series of conversations with Haas over the fact that the gift was being used inappropriately. That means, at a MINIMUM Moos had nearly 2 years of knowledge knowing the gift wasn't being spent properly BEFORE they had a meeting about correcting that action in Dec of 2020. And the result of THAT meeting was after another 5 months of failing to come up with any plans to properly spend the money, only THEN did Haas ask for it back.

They had 7 years before he asked for the money back. Moos was here for 5 of those years.

And we KNOW how badly the Frack money has been misappropriated. Hell the last 3 iterations of the "Bill Frack Challenge" have been against UT (twice) and freaking FINDLAY. We haven't hosted a "buy game" OOC opponent since FGCU in 2017. And even they were just an ASUN team on a good streak at the time (and have been basically nothing since). We haven't truly "Scheduled up" in the entire tenure of Moosbrugger. Kingston was still here when we hosted Cincinnati in the inaugural Bill Frack Challenge. THAT is the type of game that money is supposed to bring in. Meanwhile the men's basketball program (the only program with large private funding) is also the only revenue sport at BG that recognizes zero dollars in revenue from concessions, parking, souvenirs, or "other operating revenues". I'm sure that's merely a coincidence though and Moos & company are 100% honest with where money goes. Probably because the pretzels we buy at the games are actually leftover from football season so the money gets allocated there.

[Flipper]

"It was like that when I got here" is the song typically sung by the incompetent...

[Schadenfreude]

You think Moosbrugger didn't know through his team how that money was supposed to be spent?

Yes. That's what I think.

Conlin's 2019 letter citing "a lack on our part of written documentation, specificity of gift designation and use" pretty strongly points to that. It seems likely Moose was here for years before he came to know there was an issue. Supporting that scenario is the fact that BGSU tacked several years onto his personal employment contract a year after Conlin acknowledged poor stewardship of that gift. I'm very skeptical BGSU would have done that if this was really on Moose.

And we KNOW how badly the Frack money has been misappropriated.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

I'm unaware of evidence of misappropriation of the Frack money. Certainly The Blade has never said that. Brian Treece, president and CEO of the Findlay-Hancock County Community Foundation — which oversees Frack’s gift — did not accuse BGSU of that when contacted by The Blade for that March 2 story on how the fund is being used. This is what Treece said: “BGSU has annually provided the appropriate documents for compliance testing per the Frack Fund Agreement.”

The Frack gift has a number of uses, not just bringing marquee opponents to Bowling Green. It helps provides coaches with competitive salaries. It supports charter flights and participation in holiday tournaments.

You may not care for the way the money is being spent. But that doesn't make it a misappropriation.

[Flipper]

Schad...are you actually trying to absolve the AD from blame for not knowing how the single largest endowment made to a sport in HIS department was intended to be spent?

I'm sorry...but I think having unusually high recruiting expenses and "equipment" costs are areas of concern. What equipment? Where are you going on recruiting trips? Why are we NOT seeing better home opponents. Just saying "no one wants to come here" really does not cut it.

[guest44]

Clearly, Moose had no idea what he was doing regarding the Haas money. Moosbrugger, Conlin, and Rogers did something you rarely, if ever will see again. They named the stadium after someone, then cut the program prior to a single game being played in the newly named stadium. If the defense is incompetence, then that’s probably fair.