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mbenecke wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:13 pm
jpfalcon09 wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:56 pm Miami forward Chase Gresock has committed to BG out of the portal. 19 points in 21 games last year for the RedHawks.
This feels like a big pickup.

He played 3 years at Merrimack before Miami, and he was a 2x captain there. 73 career points in 4 years in college.

I like it.
Interesting. Did he sit out a year when he transferred to Miami? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the current rule is "one-time transfer" without a penalty year.
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pdt1081 wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 4:21 pm
mbenecke wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:13 pm
jpfalcon09 wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:56 pm Miami forward Chase Gresock has committed to BG out of the portal. 19 points in 21 games last year for the RedHawks.
This feels like a big pickup.

He played 3 years at Merrimack before Miami, and he was a 2x captain there. 73 career points in 4 years in college.

I like it.
Interesting. Did he sit out a year when he transferred to Miami? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the current rule is "one-time transfer" without a penalty year.
Looks like he's a graduate transfer which I believe would be exempt from the one-time transfer rule.
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jpfalcon09 wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 4:24 pm
pdt1081 wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 4:21 pm
mbenecke wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:13 pm
jpfalcon09 wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:56 pm Miami forward Chase Gresock has committed to BG out of the portal. 19 points in 21 games last year for the RedHawks.
This feels like a big pickup.

He played 3 years at Merrimack before Miami, and he was a 2x captain there. 73 career points in 4 years in college.

I like it.
Interesting. Did he sit out a year when he transferred to Miami? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the current rule is "one-time transfer" without a penalty year.
Looks like he's a graduate transfer which I believe would be exempt from the one-time transfer rule.
I’m betting on this likely being the case. Kid seems likely to have finished his degree in 4 years, so I would imagine he’s a grad transfer, meaning he will be immediately eligible.
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jpfalcon09 wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 4:24 pm
Looks like he's a graduate transfer which I believe would be exempt from the one-time transfer rule.
That makes sense. I think the one time rule gets lost on a lot of people.
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Some interesting Time on Ice information from the NCHC.
https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports ... his-season
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jpfalcon09 wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 2:27 pm
TalonsUpPuckDown wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 2:10 pm I go back and forth on this group forming a conference. It makes perfect sense on paper with the free autobid. Details suck, though. Augustana to Huntsville travel would stink. But is it any worse than Fairbanks to Huntsville? Likely an agreement that there would be no travel subsidies as every team would want them from every other team (in other words zero sum) so travel costs would be yuge and unsustainable over the long term. How does LIU pull this off with their shoestring budget? How many times can the UAx's go to the booster well before it runs dry? I suppose the league could arrange for neutral sites at a midway point between schools to cut costs, but then what's the point of having a college hockey team? What happens when the first team gets an invite to a "real" conference?

I just can't wrap my head around how this thing becomes successful and sustainable for more than a couple of years.
Therein lies the unfortunate reality for a handful of these programs - their models aren't sustainable. I'm surprised AH is willing to bring back Bobby Mo. We'll see how much public funding is going to be there if that program struggles to regain their footing. Same for UAA and even UAF. They'd be better off consolidating into one program. The rest are going to be a crapshoot. About the only independent I feel good about is ASU.

I did see today that Stonehill is also looking to make the jump to D1 for hockey and would start off as an independent. Apparently they've got the funding raised to build a new rink.
Stonehill has made their jump to D1 in all sports official. With RMU back in Atlantic Hockey Stonehill seems like an ideal 12 member of the league if they aren't interested in Long Island

https://northeastconference.org/news/20 ... nt_22.aspx
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BGFalconfromCincy wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:12 pm
jpfalcon09 wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 2:27 pm
TalonsUpPuckDown wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 2:10 pm I go back and forth on this group forming a conference. It makes perfect sense on paper with the free autobid. Details suck, though. Augustana to Huntsville travel would stink. But is it any worse than Fairbanks to Huntsville? Likely an agreement that there would be no travel subsidies as every team would want them from every other team (in other words zero sum) so travel costs would be yuge and unsustainable over the long term. How does LIU pull this off with their shoestring budget? How many times can the UAx's go to the booster well before it runs dry? I suppose the league could arrange for neutral sites at a midway point between schools to cut costs, but then what's the point of having a college hockey team? What happens when the first team gets an invite to a "real" conference?

I just can't wrap my head around how this thing becomes successful and sustainable for more than a couple of years.
Therein lies the unfortunate reality for a handful of these programs - their models aren't sustainable. I'm surprised AH is willing to bring back Bobby Mo. We'll see how much public funding is going to be there if that program struggles to regain their footing. Same for UAA and even UAF. They'd be better off consolidating into one program. The rest are going to be a crapshoot. About the only independent I feel good about is ASU.

I did see today that Stonehill is also looking to make the jump to D1 for hockey and would start off as an independent. Apparently they've got the funding raised to build a new rink.
Stonehill has made their jump to D1 in all sports official. With RMU back in Atlantic Hockey Stonehill seems like an ideal 12 member of the league if they aren't interested in Long Island

https://northeastconference.org/news/20 ... nt_22.aspx
Stonehill is going to have a steep hill (no pun intended) to climb. They only won seven games this past season at the D-II level. I suspect they won't play a very competitive schedule for awhile (mostly D-II and D-III programs) until they can get established. Atlantic Hockey seems poised on adding Utica once they make the jump given their facilities.

On an unrelated note, I saw Hockey East agreed to a six-year deal today with ESPN to stream and televise men's and women's hockey. Would be nice for the CCHA to find a better option that FloHockey.
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jpfalcon09 wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:25 pm
BGFalconfromCincy wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:12 pm
jpfalcon09 wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 2:27 pm
TalonsUpPuckDown wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 2:10 pm I go back and forth on this group forming a conference. It makes perfect sense on paper with the free autobid. Details suck, though. Augustana to Huntsville travel would stink. But is it any worse than Fairbanks to Huntsville? Likely an agreement that there would be no travel subsidies as every team would want them from every other team (in other words zero sum) so travel costs would be yuge and unsustainable over the long term. How does LIU pull this off with their shoestring budget? How many times can the UAx's go to the booster well before it runs dry? I suppose the league could arrange for neutral sites at a midway point between schools to cut costs, but then what's the point of having a college hockey team? What happens when the first team gets an invite to a "real" conference?

I just can't wrap my head around how this thing becomes successful and sustainable for more than a couple of years.
Therein lies the unfortunate reality for a handful of these programs - their models aren't sustainable. I'm surprised AH is willing to bring back Bobby Mo. We'll see how much public funding is going to be there if that program struggles to regain their footing. Same for UAA and even UAF. They'd be better off consolidating into one program. The rest are going to be a crapshoot. About the only independent I feel good about is ASU.

I did see today that Stonehill is also looking to make the jump to D1 for hockey and would start off as an independent. Apparently they've got the funding raised to build a new rink.
Stonehill has made their jump to D1 in all sports official. With RMU back in Atlantic Hockey Stonehill seems like an ideal 12 member of the league if they aren't interested in Long Island

https://northeastconference.org/news/20 ... nt_22.aspx
Stonehill is going to have a steep hill (no pun intended) to climb. They only won seven games this past season at the D-II level. I suspect they won't play a very competitive schedule for awhile (mostly D-II and D-III programs) until they can get established. Atlantic Hockey seems poised on adding Utica once they make the jump given their facilities.

On an unrelated note, I saw Hockey East agreed to a six-year deal today with ESPN to stream and televise men's and women's hockey. Would be nice for the CCHA to find a better option that FloHockey.
Considering we can already get men and women’s basketball and football games on ESPN+, it would be great to see hockey end up on that platform, too.
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Garrett Daly announced he is heading to St. Thomas next year. Best of luck to him - we’ll be seeing him again, a few times.
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jpfalcon09 wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:25 pm
BGFalconfromCincy wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:12 pm
jpfalcon09 wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 2:27 pm
TalonsUpPuckDown wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 2:10 pm I go back and forth on this group forming a conference. It makes perfect sense on paper with the free autobid. Details suck, though. Augustana to Huntsville travel would stink. But is it any worse than Fairbanks to Huntsville? Likely an agreement that there would be no travel subsidies as every team would want them from every other team (in other words zero sum) so travel costs would be yuge and unsustainable over the long term. How does LIU pull this off with their shoestring budget? How many times can the UAx's go to the booster well before it runs dry? I suppose the league could arrange for neutral sites at a midway point between schools to cut costs, but then what's the point of having a college hockey team? What happens when the first team gets an invite to a "real" conference?

I just can't wrap my head around how this thing becomes successful and sustainable for more than a couple of years.
Therein lies the unfortunate reality for a handful of these programs - their models aren't sustainable. I'm surprised AH is willing to bring back Bobby Mo. We'll see how much public funding is going to be there if that program struggles to regain their footing. Same for UAA and even UAF. They'd be better off consolidating into one program. The rest are going to be a crapshoot. About the only independent I feel good about is ASU.

I did see today that Stonehill is also looking to make the jump to D1 for hockey and would start off as an independent. Apparently they've got the funding raised to build a new rink.
Stonehill has made their jump to D1 in all sports official. With RMU back in Atlantic Hockey Stonehill seems like an ideal 12 member of the league if they aren't interested in Long Island

https://northeastconference.org/news/20 ... nt_22.aspx
Stonehill is going to have a steep hill (no pun intended) to climb. They only won seven games this past season at the D-II level. I suspect they won't play a very competitive schedule for awhile (mostly D-II and D-III programs) until they can get established. Atlantic Hockey seems poised on adding Utica once they make the jump given their facilities.

On an unrelated note, I saw Hockey East agreed to a six-year deal today with ESPN to stream and televise men's and women's hockey. Would be nice for the CCHA to find a better option that FloHockey.
True, forgot about Utica. Now can they just move hockey up to D1 and keep the rest of their sports at D3, or do they have to move all to D1 like St. Thomas? I know there is a rule on it but I'm not 100% clear on it
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mbenecke wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:14 pm Garrett Daly announced he is heading to St. Thomas next year. Best of luck to him - we’ll be seeing him again, a few times.
Good for him, should get plenty of minutes. Portal commitments are starting to heat up so hopefully we'll see the defense be addressed by Eigner and the staff in the near future.
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mbenecke wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 5:17 pm
jpfalcon09 wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 4:24 pm
pdt1081 wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 4:21 pm
mbenecke wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:13 pm
jpfalcon09 wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:56 pm Miami forward Chase Gresock has committed to BG out of the portal. 19 points in 21 games last year for the RedHawks.
This feels like a big pickup.

He played 3 years at Merrimack before Miami, and he was a 2x captain there. 73 career points in 4 years in college.

I like it.
Interesting. Did he sit out a year when he transferred to Miami? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the current rule is "one-time transfer" without a penalty year.
Looks like he's a graduate transfer which I believe would be exempt from the one-time transfer rule.
I’m betting on this likely being the case. Kid seems likely to have finished his degree in 4 years, so I would imagine he’s a grad transfer, meaning he will be immediately eligible.
I've been looking around and still haven't seen a confirmation on this. Did I miss something?
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TalonsUpPuckDown wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 9:16 am
I've been looking around and still haven't seen a confirmation on this. Did I miss something?
Only thing I've found was a Tweet by BGSU Hockey Fans that referenced Mike McMahon from CHN. He has a paid subscription blog that I don't have access to. My guess is it's buried in there.
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BGFalconfromCincy wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:12 pm

True, forgot about Utica. Now can they just move hockey up to D1 and keep the rest of their sports at D3, or do they have to move all to D1 like St. Thomas? I know there is a rule on it but I'm not 100% clear on it
The chatter on the D3 board is that Utica will go full D2 and the hockey team will play up to D1.
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Re: Offseason 2022

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Lukas Sillinger entered the portal today. He has three (3) YOEs remaining.

Tom Serratore is not one of those "WTF?" coaches like Rico so I have to wonder if this is one of those examples of the blue bloods using the portal at the expense of the non-blue bloods to poach the better players.
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