Does anyone want Bob Moosbrugger?

[guest44]

Of course Rogers was involved in the extension for Moosbrugger. He also put him in charge of Rec & Wellness at the same time. They both let Kit Hughes do whatever he wanted in his time here. It's no surprise Moosbrugger is beyond lost without him.

[Schadenfreude]

I mean a what strange situation that only would occur here. You’re fired but not really. Keep collecting until you find something else. Wtf

This is not that uncommon for senior roles, particularly in the private sector. When an organization and an executive reach a point where they are ready to part ways, the executive may get some time to find a new role before she or he needs to leave the organization.

Also, senior leaders on contracts (such as school superintendents) are often able to see from a mile away that the time to make an exit may be ripe for any number of reasons.

[kdog27]

I don’t agree that this any type of norm in athletics. Let a bad AD to continue being a bad AD. Makes no sense.

[hammb]

It is SOOOO hard to fathom sending any money to this athletic department. I get trying to do everything as cheaply as possible. We aren't exactly rolling in dough. Still, if you have lost confidence in the leadership it costs you far more to string it out for 2 years than it does to just suck it up and bite the bullet.

As an example keeping Moose & Huger employed for another year (at least) I'm very seriously considering terminating my season tickets. I've had tickets for as long as I can remember, but I just don't want to actually give them more of my money. In the end the 7yo will likely want to still go to the game and I'll plug my nose and buy, but who knows. If you have die hards thinking twice about purchasing tickets the casuals (if we have any still around) are almost certainly not going to. That's all lost revenue...

At some point if you aren't going to find the money to at least TRY and field competitive teams and run a competent department why bother fielding athletics at all? IT's not just money either, I can virtually guarantee there are countless D2 & D3 departments that manage to run things better than BG while spending less. The culture that has basically allowed the department carte blanche to change nothing and not give a damn is a far bigger issue than the cost.

[hammb]

Even if it IS commonplace to let them know they should be looking elsewhere and their contracts will not be retained, it's sure as hell not commonplace to let somebody you don't believe in to continue actually LEADING in that role.

Far more common would be, you're still under contract so here's your paycheck, but you're no longer allowed in the building and certainly aren't making any real decisions. More likely is we want you gone, can we come to an amicable buyout that allows you to move on with your life and us to save some bucks and find a competent person to fill this role.

[kdog27]

Far more common would be, you're still under contract so here's your paycheck, but you're no longer allowed in the building and certainly aren't making any real decisions. More likely is we want you gone, can we come to an amicable buyout that allows you to move on with your life and us to save some bucks and find a competent person to fill this role.

Yes, exactly. The man should no longer have any type of role here. It’s almost like he’s going hang around and keep the job because nobody wants him.

[jpfalcon09]

Far more common would be, you're still under contract so here's your paycheck, but you're no longer allowed in the building and certainly aren't making any real decisions. More likely is we want you gone, can we come to an amicable buyout that allows you to move on with your life and us to save some bucks and find a competent person to fill this role.

Yes, exactly. The man should no longer have any type of role here. It’s almost like he’s going hang around and keep the job because nobody wants him.

Then buy him out. Bob knows they want him gone so why do them a solid? They agreed to the extension and the buyout number, no reason to settle. I think he'd be more than happy to call the university's bluff and sit at home while getting paid to do nothing.

[guest44]

Moosbrugger fired Jinks, then turned to Chris Kingston's hand picked hire (Hughes) to find the next football coach. Moosbrugger wasn't fit for the role from the beginning. To extend him during Covid (as soon as student fees were secured) was a complete lack of leadership from Rodney Rogers. Hiding behind his buyout now is a lack of leadership from Rodney Rogers. Allowing Family Weekend to occur during a road football game is a lack of leadership from Rodney Rogers. It's just one thing after another. Once BGSU has to start hiding contracts from the likes of the Sentinel Tribune, you know leadership is lacking.

[BillyLP]

At the end of the day, the budget is the most preventative thing from BG moving forward with terminations. Their budget is 103 out of the 105 available FBS budgets, meaning they just flat don't have the money to buy people out unless a booster steps up and writes the check. We can (rightfully) whine about Moose still being here all we want, but BG just needs more money from donors to elevate beyond where they are.

[hammb]

Far more common would be, you're still under contract so here's your paycheck, but you're no longer allowed in the building and certainly aren't making any real decisions. More likely is we want you gone, can we come to an amicable buyout that allows you to move on with your life and us to save some bucks and find a competent person to fill this role.

Yes, exactly. The man should no longer have any type of role here. It’s almost like he’s going hang around and keep the job because nobody wants him.

Then buy him out. Bob knows they want him gone so why do them a solid? They agreed to the extension and the buyout number, no reason to settle. I think he'd be more than happy to call the university's bluff and sit at home while getting paid to do nothing.

For sure. I've seen execs take less money just to move on, his desire to do so would really be the only leverage the university has. But I'm with you. Give him the damned buyout check, write it off to a major eff up, and MOVE FORWARD. This entire thing is basically holding all of BGSU athletics in purgatory until he's gone. I guess you could ascribe to the belief that our fan support is already so minimal nothing will piss off and alienate the handful of us that actually pay money to watch games, but that seems like a bad way to run D1 athletics.

[hammb]

At the end of the day, the budget is the most preventative thing from BG moving forward with terminations. Their budget is 103 out of the 105 available FBS budgets, meaning they just flat don't have the money to buy people out unless a booster steps up and writes the check. We can (rightfully) whine about Moose still being here all we want, but BG just needs more money from donors to elevate beyond where they are.

Could be.

But as we've seen when donors DO step up it does not matter. Thanks to the generosity of Bill Frack our basketball program does NOT operate under these same constraints and yet they just piss away money with no regard for spending wisely or attempting to compete.

The entire department needs BLOWN UP. It's a dumpster fire and an embarrassment. Chicken or egg situation...maybe there are alumni and potential donors who just won't give money to the department because it's proven time and again it cannot determine how to best use those funds. I'm a total piss-ant without the the finances to give more than a tiny gift that won't move the needle in any way shape or form. Still, I swore off donating a penny to the Falcon Club a decade ago and I'll never do so again until I see competent leadership using money in ways that make sense. If I feel that way I'm sure there are people that have MORE money that feel the same.

[guest44]

At the end of the day, the budget is the most preventative thing from BG moving forward with terminations. Their budget is 103 out of the 105 available FBS budgets, meaning they just flat don't have the money to buy people out unless a booster steps up and writes the check. We can (rightfully) whine about Moose still being here all we want, but BG just needs more money from donors to elevate beyond where they are.

Correct. They also need the President and the AD to stop making bad contractual decisions on people who are in no demand elsewhere. Also, Moosbrugger was hired for his fundraising ability. His best fundraising effort was cutting baseball.

[hammb]

At the end of the day, the budget is the most preventative thing from BG moving forward with terminations. Their budget is 103 out of the 105 available FBS budgets, meaning they just flat don't have the money to buy people out unless a booster steps up and writes the check. We can (rightfully) whine about Moose still being here all we want, but BG just needs more money from donors to elevate beyond where they are.

Correct. They also need the President and the AD to stop making bad contractual decisions on people who are in no demand elsewhere. Also, Moosbrugger was hired for his fundraising ability. His best fundraising effort was cutting baseball.

Exactly.

We get to hear the moaning about the budget whenever we're stuck with bad coaches for too long. And now we get to hear the same thing regarding being stuck with an AD that has been an unmitigated disaster.

Yet they don't seem to act like a department with such tight budget constraints when they hand out contract extensions willy nilly. And to be clear this is not a new problem. They extended Orr way too soon as well. The money always seems to be there when they want to give somebody an undeserved raise, but never when we need to make a change to compete. If we're that poor then they should think about that before signing the contracts, not just bemoaning it when it's obvious they were mistakes.

[guest44]

Poor Bob Moosbrugger gave Michael Huger an additional year based on being picked to win the MAC for a second consecutive season in November 2020, with no fans in the stands. That has nothing to do with a tight budget, that's just being STUPID.

[Hammer]

I have decided to stop throwing good money after bad. Typically I would give $5k per year and buy season tickets. I know it’s not much but I would have given much more if I thought it would be spent wisely. The secret Huger extension was the nail in the coffin for me. I know my contribution was just a drop in the bucket but I’m sure there are others like me that are fed up.