Jarret Doege transferring yet again

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"Dilettante mercenary"....Good Grief. He's a college athlete...limited window to get his playing time. NCAA gives him a chance to play the field so he does....and people on here call him out for a lack of character for wanting his best chance to play? Sanctimonious, puritanical BS
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Flipper wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 3:06 pm "Dilettante mercenary"....Good Grief. He's a college athlete...limited window to get his playing time. NCAA gives him a chance to play the field so he does....and people on here call him out for a lack of character for wanting his best chance to play? Sanctimonious, puritanical BS
Agreed. This is his last potential year to showcase to play pro and he was probably informed he wasn't starting. Why not find a place that might take you in? Not to mention he has already earned two degrees as a student athlete so far and would be working on a third degree.
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BillyLP wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 3:09 pm
Flipper wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 3:06 pm "Dilettante mercenary"....Good Grief. He's a college athlete...limited window to get his playing time. NCAA gives him a chance to play the field so he does....and people on here call him out for a lack of character for wanting his best chance to play? Sanctimonious, puritanical BS
Agreed. This is his last potential year to showcase to play pro and he was probably informed he wasn't starting. Why not find a place that might take you in? Not to mention he has already earned two degrees as a student athlete so far and would be working on a third degree.
I don't even give a rat's behind whether it's to Showcase his abilities to play pro or any such nonsense. Perhaps he just wants to freaking PLAY football because he likes PLAYING. He's gonna be the backup there and wants to see if he can start elsewhere. Barring some resurgence towards pro-prospect status (unlikely) this could be the last year he gets to play football in his entire life.

He's got character issues because he wants to utilize the current rules and transfer elsewhere? Sure there is some fortitude/value in seeing a guy stick around through adversity, but big whoop. Dude has probably 1 year left to play the game he loves, it's not some major character flaw that he wants to actually PLAY that season.

And, I'm quite certain there are any number of campuses where he'd be an immediate upgrade (at least in terms of talent), with us being one of them. Obviously starting with only 3 weeks of practice is a tall order, but I've seen stranger things work out.
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Flipper wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 3:06 pm "Dilettante mercenary"....Good Grief.
I said it. I meant it.
hammb wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 3:45 pm He's got character issues because he wants to utilize the current rules and transfer elsewhere?
Four schools in five years is ridiculous. I want nothing to do with someone like that. He seems afraid of adversity, and maybe hard work, too. We're better off with McDonald and Orth.

Given that we are in mid-August, I wonder if FCS is where Doege ends up. Perhaps there his sheer talent can overcome his lack of understanding of the relevant playbook. I don't think that lack of understanding will work at our level.
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Oh remember the days. The days when Bowling Green fans thought Doege the quarterback, and Doege the coach, were going to turn it all around.
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I’m not saying Doege would be the answer but I have seen enough of the current QB to know he isn’t it either. McDonald is tough as hell and that’s all he really is in my opinion.

And good for Doege if he already has 2 degrees. I thought was what it was all about but guess not…
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Doege had a full Spring in this offense. Which I think seeing it was cause to depart… so hypothetically, it wouldn’t be a stretch to pick it up quick. No way in hell it happens, from either camp, but fun to talk about.
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Schadenfreude wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:12 pm
Flipper wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 3:06 pm "Dilettante mercenary"....Good Grief.
I said it. I meant it.
hammb wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 3:45 pm He's got character issues because he wants to utilize the current rules and transfer elsewhere?
Four schools in five years is ridiculous. I want nothing to do with someone like that. He seems afraid of adversity, and maybe hard work, too. We're better off with McDonald and Orth.

Given that we are in mid-August, I wonder if FCS is where Doege ends up. Perhaps there his sheer talent can overcome his lack of understanding of the relevant playbook. I don't think that lack of understanding will work at our level.
You are living in the past...the landscape has been altered and the Gil Thorp "sit and wait for your chance" mindset has been rendered obsolete. If Doege wants to shop and college surf looking for the best place to pursue his passion for football in the very limited time he hasl...what's it to you? Where do you get off criticizing him for some perceived moral failing?

We're going to be shopping for a HC in a few months. I think the smart path would be to look for a JUCO or FCS coach from a school with budget limitations and a fluid roster. That's what the MAC is now
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roguewarrior wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 5:29 pm Doege had a full Spring in this offense. Which I think seeing it was cause to depart… so hypothetically, it wouldn’t be a stretch to pick it up quick. No way in hell it happens, from either camp, but fun to talk about.

Yeah..there's like zero chance he would come here since the QB Whisperer already told him "I'm stuck on my BC boys" Wade and Matt
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Flipper wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 3:06 pm He's a college athlete...limited window to get his playing time.
It seems like his time is unlimited. It almost feels like he was here during the Olscamp presidency and he's still playing college football today! When I looked it up and saw this is his 6th year, I was surprised - it just seems like a lot longer in my mind.
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Flipper wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:24 am You are living in the past...the landscape has been altered
It has not been altered so much that a student athlete who has cycled through four schools in six years is the kind of guy most coaches are going to want to take a chance on three weeks before the start of the season. Football is a team game. Someone who vagabonds from one school to the next -- over and over, four times in six years -- is just not a team player.

And Jarret Doege isn't that good. He has some talent. We saw that up close a few years ago. But he is not so good that he would be likely to come in here and, in a matter of weeks, significantly outplay who we have on the roster right now. Matt McDonald and Camden Orth have spent months or even years learning the offense and learning our receivers. There is no substitute for that kind of hard work. If Jarret Doege couldn't cut it at Western Kentucky, he is far from a sure thing here.

Don't get me wrong. If a Trey Lance or a Justin Fields-type player had that same vagabond track record and wanted to come in here with three weeks before the season, maybe our head coach would be more willing to take that risk and more able to sell the team on his decision. But Jarret Doege is no Trey Lance. Bringing him in -- which isn't going to happen, but that's the hypothetical here -- would be likely be a huge morale buster.
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As has been pointed out..Orth has had about the same time in our system as Doege. Basically spring ball. McDonald has had more time..time to prove he can't run the offense.

I find it odd that you're speaking for college coaches when you aren't one.

We'll see where Doege lands...he has some talent and there's a ton of colleges across the spectrum of College football. Maybe he goes home to Texas, finds a nice FCS or D3 program where he can play and be happy....that would make him a bad person
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Doege has landed at Troy.
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Flipper wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:24 am
Schadenfreude wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:12 pm
Flipper wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 3:06 pm "Dilettante mercenary"....Good Grief.
I said it. I meant it.
hammb wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 3:45 pm He's got character issues because he wants to utilize the current rules and transfer elsewhere?
Four schools in five years is ridiculous. I want nothing to do with someone like that. He seems afraid of adversity, and maybe hard work, too. We're better off with McDonald and Orth.

Given that we are in mid-August, I wonder if FCS is where Doege ends up. Perhaps there his sheer talent can overcome his lack of understanding of the relevant playbook. I don't think that lack of understanding will work at our level.
You are living in the past...the landscape has been altered and the Gil Thorp "sit and wait for your chance" mindset has been rendered obsolete. If Doege wants to shop and college surf looking for the best place to pursue his passion for football in the very limited time he hasl...what's it to you? Where do you get off criticizing him for some perceived moral failing?

We're going to be shopping for a HC in a few months. I think the smart path would be to look for a JUCO or FCS coach from a school with budget limitations and a fluid roster. That's what the MAC is now
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Flipper wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 3:06 pm "Dilettante mercenary"....Good Grief. He's a college athlete...limited window to get his playing time. NCAA gives him a chance to play the field so he does....and people on here call him out for a lack of character for wanting his best chance to play? Sanctimonious, puritanical BS
I gotta disagree man. This age group in general is way too entitled, I see it with interns at our company all the time. If the internship or job opportunity isn’t perfect or in a warm climate they throw a fit and leave. For athletes, if the scheme isn’t good enough, or if the coach isn’t cool enough they’ll just bounce to the next place. Since when did putting your head down, putting hard work in and leading by example become a bad thing?
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