Offseason 2022

[TalonsUpPuckDown]

Flo just bagged all the USHL games for the next 5 years.

https://twitter.com/chrismpeters/status ... eS2K8a05xA

[pdt1081]

Flo just bagged all the USHL games for the next 5 years.

https://twitter.com/chrismpeters/status ... eS2K8a05xA

FloSports has been making big moves this summer. They "merged" FloRacing with MAVTV a month or so ago as well. May not seem like much to some, but in the motorsports world, it's huge. I'm waiting for the announcement of a FloSports cable channel. I believe it's coming sooner rather than later. It was one of the things touched on during the announcement of the MAVTV deal. MAV had the cable broadcast production running smoothly, but was struggling with the online streaming content. Flo fixed that with the deal.

[jpfalcon09]

Gavin Gould signed with South Carolina in the ECHL.

[pdt1081]

Falcon alum and former Huntsville had coach Doug Ross passed away Tuesday. https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/ ... h-Doug.php

[TalonsUpPuckDown]

Kruser signed a one year deal with the Marlies.

[TalonsUpPuckDown]

I debated whether to post this but thought what the heck, we could use something to talk about. From Miami State's version of BGSUHockey.com - the Miami AD was interviewed and said the Nacho league office feels they'd be better off financially if Miami State never made their Frozen Faceoff (along with Western and CC). Miami State also appears to be a speed bump for ASU joining. Quote below, link to the article is here https://viewfromtheglass.com/2022/08/20 ... -possible/ Context is within a broader discussion of the Nachos possibly being absorbed into the Summit League.

While the athletic department has always supported Miami’s necessary move to the NCHC, Sayler mentioned two issues he has with the conference: The emphasis on the more geographically-desirable schools advancing to the Frozen Faceoff and discussion about Arizona State joining the league.

“Whenever the league throws out a doomsday scenario, it usually involves four schools being in the Frozen Faceoff in St. Paul: Miami, Western (Michigan), CC and Denver. Because then you have no local team participating, right?” Sayler said. “You don’t have any of the Minnesota schools, you don’t have North Dakota. Sometimes I do sit back and say, how does that make us feel, that we’re a member of this conference but yet a doomsday scenario is us being good? So there is some concern for that, and that tournament in St. Paul, plus the round of playoffs to get into that tournament are probably the most important revenue-drivers of the league. And Miami has the smallest rink in the league and we would probably sell as few tickets as any team in St. Paul, in the league. It does set up kind of funny that way when you start thinking about having more success and not driving more revenue for the league, and what is the league really focused on? And there has been constant chatter about Arizona State, and I just have no interest in crossing another time zone to play sports. So if the league is going to continue to push that direction, that is certainly something that would cause us to think differently about what’s going on.”

I still hold firm to the belief they would never leave the Nachos, but wow...for the AD to come out and say their league shows them no love and honor? I don't get why he thinks that statement benefits them or their league in any way.

[Bgsu2016]

I debated whether to post this but thought what the heck, we could use something to talk about. From Miami State's version of BGSUHockey.com - the Miami AD was interviewed and said the Nacho league office feels they'd be better off financially if Miami State never made their Frozen Faceoff (along with Western and CC). Miami State also appears to be a speed bump for ASU joining. Quote below, link to the article is here https://viewfromtheglass.com/2022/08/20 ... -possible/ Context is within a broader discussion of the Nachos possibly being absorbed into the Summit League.

While the athletic department has always supported Miami’s necessary move to the NCHC, Sayler mentioned two issues he has with the conference: The emphasis on the more geographically-desirable schools advancing to the Frozen Faceoff and discussion about Arizona State joining the league.

“Whenever the league throws out a doomsday scenario, it usually involves four schools being in the Frozen Faceoff in St. Paul: Miami, Western (Michigan), CC and Denver. Because then you have no local team participating, right?” Sayler said. “You don’t have any of the Minnesota schools, you don’t have North Dakota. Sometimes I do sit back and say, how does that make us feel, that we’re a member of this conference but yet a doomsday scenario is us being good? So there is some concern for that, and that tournament in St. Paul, plus the round of playoffs to get into that tournament are probably the most important revenue-drivers of the league. And Miami has the smallest rink in the league and we would probably sell as few tickets as any team in St. Paul, in the league. It does set up kind of funny that way when you start thinking about having more success and not driving more revenue for the league, and what is the league really focused on? And there has been constant chatter about Arizona State, and I just have no interest in crossing another time zone to play sports. So if the league is going to continue to push that direction, that is certainly something that would cause us to think differently about what’s going on.”

I still hold firm to the belief they would never leave the Nachos, but wow...for the AD to come out and say their league shows them no love and honor? I don't get why he thinks that statement benefits them or their league in any way.

He's correct though. Hell look at these NCAA regionals, most are pretty dang empty anymore. The days of the Joe being packed or Xcel Center being packed for the WCHA finals seem to be done

[jpfalcon09]

I debated whether to post this but thought what the heck, we could use something to talk about. From Miami State's version of BGSUHockey.com - the Miami AD was interviewed and said the Nacho league office feels they'd be better off financially if Miami State never made their Frozen Faceoff (along with Western and CC). Miami State also appears to be a speed bump for ASU joining. Quote below, link to the article is here https://viewfromtheglass.com/2022/08/20 ... -possible/ Context is within a broader discussion of the Nachos possibly being absorbed into the Summit League.

While the athletic department has always supported Miami’s necessary move to the NCHC, Sayler mentioned two issues he has with the conference: The emphasis on the more geographically-desirable schools advancing to the Frozen Faceoff and discussion about Arizona State joining the league.

“Whenever the league throws out a doomsday scenario, it usually involves four schools being in the Frozen Faceoff in St. Paul: Miami, Western (Michigan), CC and Denver. Because then you have no local team participating, right?” Sayler said. “You don’t have any of the Minnesota schools, you don’t have North Dakota. Sometimes I do sit back and say, how does that make us feel, that we’re a member of this conference but yet a doomsday scenario is us being good? So there is some concern for that, and that tournament in St. Paul, plus the round of playoffs to get into that tournament are probably the most important revenue-drivers of the league. And Miami has the smallest rink in the league and we would probably sell as few tickets as any team in St. Paul, in the league. It does set up kind of funny that way when you start thinking about having more success and not driving more revenue for the league, and what is the league really focused on? And there has been constant chatter about Arizona State, and I just have no interest in crossing another time zone to play sports. So if the league is going to continue to push that direction, that is certainly something that would cause us to think differently about what’s going on.”

I still hold firm to the belief they would never leave the Nachos, but wow...for the AD to come out and say their league shows them no love and honor? I don't get why he thinks that statement benefits them or their league in any way.

The relationship never made sense and makes even less now with Miami being essentially a non-factor in the college hockey landscape. Those original WCHA powerhouses run that league and it was basically set up to ensure their continued dominance. Good news is Miami doesn't have to worry about not selling tickets in St. Paul because they're never going to get there anytime soon. I don't understand how the university and donors can sit back and watch the program fail (they've averaged six league win per season since 2013). They joined the conference with absolutely zero eye to the future. If they eventually want to leave I hope the CCHA tells them to kick rocks.

[Schadenfreude]

If they eventually want to leave I hope the CCHA tells them to kick rocks.

I'd be delighted to have Miami in the CCHA. It would be a fantastic, instant in-conference rivalry.

It sounds like they might want out of that other league but aren't sure how to extricate themselves, or something.

[Tricky_Falcon]

If they eventually want to leave I hope the CCHA tells them to kick rocks.

I'd be delighted to have Miami in the CCHA. It would be a fantastic, instant in-conference rivalry.

It sounds like they might want out of that other league but aren't sure how to extricate themselves, or something.

Being this honest about their positioning in the conference by the AD shows they don't see themselves in the NCHC for the long-haul. if they did, why air dirty laundry to a blog? What's holding them back from leaving is likely the buyout and another conference accepting them.

Odd position to be in considering their attitude when joining the league.

[TalonsUpPuckDown]

If they eventually want to leave I hope the CCHA tells them to kick rocks.

I'd be delighted to have Miami in the CCHA. It would be a fantastic, instant in-conference rivalry.

It sounds like they might want out of that other league but aren't sure how to extricate themselves, or something.

Being this honest about their positioning in the conference by the AD shows they don't see themselves in the NCHC for the long-haul. if they did, why air dirty laundry to a blog? What's holding them back from leaving is likely the buyout and another conference accepting them.

Odd position to be in considering their attitude when joining the league.

+1 to all this. Add in they aren’t wild about ASU. I have no sense if the Nacho powers have interest in ASU now that they have their new rink, but having a budget conscious league member in the SEC of college hockey voting no on expansion involving a major university due to travel concerns can’t sit well with the Nacho brass. UND and Denver must be shaking their heads…they created this new league to get away from the Bemidji’s and Tech’s of the world only to find themselves in a similar situation.

Lastly, Miami State is not going to cost contain themselves to success in that league.

[Schadenfreude]

If the NCHC wants Arizona State, a solution for the NCHC could be to help Miami State transition to the CCHA. This could involve knocking some money off their their exit fee, which is said to be large. Once Miami is out, bring in Arizona State.

That said, I'm not sure how interested the NCHC would be in Arizona State.

An alternative might be to help Miami State transition to the CCHA by essentially working out a trade for Minnesota State. That would bum out some of the CCHA members to be sure -- that's a great program -- but I'd still take that trade. I'd love to have an Ohio rival again.

[pdt1081]

If they eventually want to leave I hope the CCHA tells them to kick rocks.

I'd be delighted to have Miami in the CCHA. It would be a fantastic, instant in-conference rivalry.

It sounds like they might want out of that other league but aren't sure how to extricate themselves, or something.

Being this honest about their positioning in the conference by the AD shows they don't see themselves in the NCHC for the long-haul. if they did, why air dirty laundry to a blog? What's holding them back from leaving is likely the buyout and another conference accepting them.

Odd position to be in considering their attitude when joining the league.

Casting the line to see if any donors catch the bait for the exit fee? Only thing that makes sense.

[pdt1081]

An alternative might be to help Miami State transition to the CCHA by essentially working out a trade for Minnesota State. That would bum out some of the CCHA members to be sure -- that's a great program -- but I'd still take that trade. I'd love to have an Ohio rival again.

Minnesota State isn't going anywhere, any time soon. St Thomas, Bemidji, Augustana are all relatively close programs for them. They've had recent success in the tournament, which becomes a much harder road in the NCHC.

[Schadenfreude]

An alternative might be to help Miami State transition to the CCHA by essentially working out a trade for Minnesota State. That would bum out some of the CCHA members to be sure -- that's a great program -- but I'd still take that trade. I'd love to have an Ohio rival again.

Minnesota State isn't going anywhere, any time soon. St Thomas, Bemidji, Augustana are all relatively close programs for them. They've had recent success in the tournament, which becomes a much harder road in the NCHC.

Interesting. I don't think Bowling Green would jump at an invitation to that league, but I've long kind of assumed Minnesota State would. Perhaps I'm wrong.