Does anyone want Bob Moosbrugger?

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jpfalcon09 wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 2:37 pm
Falcon Commander wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 2:15 pm Who does the hiring?
And are they competent enough?
Probably hire a third party. BGSU likely doesn't have the resources to conduct a search on their own.
Well, that will be the search. The hiring decision is ultimately going to up to President Rogers, right?

Does the Board of Trustees sign off?
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Schadenfreude wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 2:44 pm
jpfalcon09 wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 2:37 pm
Falcon Commander wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 2:15 pm Who does the hiring?
And are they competent enough?
Probably hire a third party. BGSU likely doesn't have the resources to conduct a search on their own.
Well, that will be search. The hiring decision is ultimately going to up to President Rogers, right?

Does the Board of Trustees sign off?
Rogers and the Board will undoubtedly have the final say.
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Since the president indicated an interest in going all in on NIL I suggest checking out what Michigan is doing. The players set up a collective. We as fans pay a monthly subscription. It gets some basic player access based on how much you give. University can be pretty hands clean in terms of interaction with NIL.
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MarkL wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 3:37 pm Since the president indicated an interest in going all in on NIL I suggest checking out what Michigan is doing. The players set up a collective. We as fans pay a monthly subscription. It gets some basic player access based on how much you give. University can be pretty hands clean in terms of interaction with NIL.
This has become pretty common. Even the smaller P5 programs like Wake Forest, WVU, etc. have started this with things like jerseys, banquets, etc promised to those who commit to different levels. I don't believe any MAC schools have this yet and would have to think the first to do it will be ahead of the game, but the schools won't be supportive because it will seem like less money for them.
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BillyLP wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 3:50 pm
MarkL wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 3:37 pm Since the president indicated an interest in going all in on NIL I suggest checking out what Michigan is doing. The players set up a collective. We as fans pay a monthly subscription. It gets some basic player access based on how much you give. University can be pretty hands clean in terms of interaction with NIL.
This has become pretty common. Even the smaller P5 programs like Wake Forest, WVU, etc. have started this with things like jerseys, banquets, etc promised to those who commit to different levels. I don't believe any MAC schools have this yet and would have to think the first to do it will be ahead of the game, but the schools won't be supportive because it will seem like less money for them.
Toledo has an NIL collective, only one in the MAC IIRC. BG should be doing everything in it's power to emulate that. That's how you reengage the alumni base who want to attract and retain talented student-athletes.
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How would an NIL collective function alongside the Falcon Club?...Could an NIL collective function alongside the Falcon Club?
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Flipper wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 4:16 pm How would an NIL collective function alongside the Falcon Club?...Could an NIL collective function alongside the Falcon Club?
Yes. Want to support the athletic department and pay coach salary? FC. Want to pay players and effectively provide an indirect recruiting tool *wink *wink? Collective. Both? Sure. And the administration need not be involved. I mentioned the Michigan one because the players founded and run that one. No admins.
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Falcon club funds scholarships for athletes...an NIL collective would seem to be working the same side of the street. Unless you want to repurpose the Falcon Club...that would...I imagine be quite the administrative headache
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A lot of schools are way behind on NIL.

I watch Cbus news during the week and few nights ago they had a segment on the OSU Collective. They had a function with Day and their hoops coach. Place was packed so can’t imagine how much they raised. Heck Day even publicly said they needed at least $15 million year to be competitive. I am sure that number is higher now.

Just seems some are not a fan of collectives since NCAA watching them closer than real companies.

I am also a fan of Miami Hurricanes and they have a billionaire that owns a new company giving out deals left and right.

BG has to have some local companies with some money to spend to promote their business. Heck, the easier ones would be like Hooters NIL. Why can’t Fricker’s do something? A local restaurant. Etc.
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Tony4BG wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:46 pm A lot of schools are way behind on NIL.

I watch Cbus news during the week and few nights ago they had a segment on the OSU Collective. They had a function with Day and their hoops coach. Place was packed so can’t imagine how much they raised. Heck Day even publicly said they needed at least $15 million year to be competitive. I am sure that number is higher now.

Just seems some are not a fan of collectives since NCAA watching them closer than real companies.

I am also a fan of Miami Hurricanes and they have a billionaire that owns a new company giving out deals left and right.

BG has to have some local companies with some money to spend to promote their business. Heck, the easier ones would be like Hooters NIL. Why can’t Fricker’s do something? A local restaurant. Etc.
From Bob's letter to his former staff it seems BG has a third party helping with NIL. Outside of Elite the extent of any agreements aren't public. More needs to be done - the local businesses aren't going to be in the position to break the bank and really make a difference - no slight to them. But I'm sure there are wealthy alumni out there who would be willing to join together to provide something of substance in that realm that's separate from the Falcon Club.
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Why would anyone trust the athletic department though? They ran off a $1 million donation like it was torn Monopoly money.

Keep the department far, far away from anything like this.
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The athletic department with Hughes and Moosbrugger would use athletes need to get approval from compliance to try to control any NIL stuff. Hughes ego tried to get involved and control it. Complete scumbag behavior he was always known for. The NIL stuff seems mostly over Moose’s head. I doubt it’s coincidence the compliance person left this summer. Need someone in charge who can check the ego at the door, and work with the people who still care. If not, same old same old.

Bob Moosbrugger got fired yesterday. Kit Hughes legacy at BGSU got fired yesterday too.
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I don't understand President Roger's statement. I can't even tell for what reason a firing was warranted. Was he disappointed in the performance of the revenue earning teams? Did Moose's mismanagement of the baseball donation border on financial malfeasance? Was Moose's tie the wrong shade of orange?

I don't have any faith in Roger's ability to hire a worthy AD if he can't identify the reasons the previous AD wasn't.
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Critical Thinker wrote: Fri Aug 26, 2022 5:49 pm I don't understand President Roger's statement. I can't even tell for what reason a firing was warranted. Was he disappointed in the performance of the revenue earning teams? Did Moose's mismanagement of the baseball donation border on financial malfeasance? Was Moose's tie the wrong shade of orange?

I don't have any faith in Roger's ability to hire a worthy AD if he can't identify the reasons the previous AD wasn't.
I got the sense the move was made by the Board and not Rogers exclusively.
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Critical Thinker wrote: Fri Aug 26, 2022 5:49 pm I don't understand President Roger's statement.... Was he disappointed in the performance of the revenue earning teams? Did Moose's mismanagement of the baseball donation border on financial malfeasance?
If those were factors, I imagine President Rogers would have cited them more specifically. He did not.

The key phrase in that statement to me is "the need to increase and diversify resources." Rogers seems to be saying there that the revenue side of the department needs to improve. And, by "diversify," I think he's saying we need an athletic director who can get donors to step up more.

(Improved ticket sales could also help, of course.)

On the baseball donation: If Rogers really blamed Moosbrugger for that situation, it seems to me he would have said something about it. But he didn't. He actually offered some praise for Moosbrugger's overall handling of baseball.

My sense is the real screw up probably happened years earlier, when (I imagine) the athletic department under Chris Kingston failed to properly document the terms of the Haas gift.
jpfalcon09 wrote: Fri Aug 26, 2022 5:56 pm I got the sense the move was made by the Board and not Rogers exclusively.
Well, that's interesting.
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