Offseason 2022

[jpfalcon09]

He's a PR nightmare. Play D1 hockey 25 minutes from where all this happened? Come on. University isn't touching that with a mile long pole. Maybe he gets a second chance somewhere. He needs to earn it and I think in many eyes on here, he hasn't due to his lack of remorse and accountability.

[pdt1081]

You respond like he just did this at the age of 20. He was 14 at the time. You are treating him like an adult when he wasn't. What in your mind should he do to make things right PDT?? The two aren't comparable? You're right, one kid is dead, the other embarrassed. Which parents should be more upset? So you have no forgiveness in you? You will be forgiven as you forgive others right? At what point does continuing to punish him become bullying? I think you are there, but I assume you aren't 14 but rather an adult that knows better. So bullying him now makes you no different and actually worse since you should know better.

If we are setting a Puritan standard, I bet you could find many at BGSU that wouldn't pass that. I am pretty sure there are kids on the football team or basketball teams that aren't saints either, you just don't know about it. I am saying the kid deserves a second chance and should be given one and I am trying to help the BG hockey team to be better too. What are you trying to do?

You obviously have no clue about the details of the incident that occurred over 25 years ago. None whatsoever since you're still trying to compare the two.

Since you're obviously a family member, why don't you enlighten us on the amount of time he spent considering BGSU during his initial recruitment? I'm sure we all know the answer already, and that's a big indication as to why BG is not the right place for him to get a second chance. Hell, if he's so good, why doesn't he sign with the Walleye? An ECHL salary coupled with an academic scholarship or two should be fairly easy to cover in state tuition. Granted he may have to live at home with his parents to do it, but people have done more with less.

[unfalconbelievable]

Can we lobby the NCAA to open the season next weekend?

We need something positive to cheer for, and I'm already sick of watch Falcon football.

[TalonsUpPuckDown]

Can we lobby the NCAA to open the season next weekend?

We need something positive to cheer for, and I'm already sick of watch Falcon football.

Congrats on post #1000!

Apologies for my drunken rant last night, a nerve was struck and my filters were off. Based on the series of posts from the OP it appears the family not only shows no remorse over the situation, they feel entitled to a roster spot. Clearly no lessons were learned. Sad.

[BGPuckster2]

Family? LOL, you guys really do think you know way more than you do. I have never met him or anyone in his family. Who know this guy the best right now, people on this board or his Tri-City USHL team? Here is what they have to say. Please read it with an open mind. I'm sensing peoples reactions on here say way more about themselves than Mitch Miller.......

The Storm said they decided, "after careful consideration," to add Miller to the roster.

“We know Mitchell very well and we are convinced what happened when he was 14 isn’t indicative of his character or who he is now as a 19-year-old young man," Anthony Noreen, the Storm's head coach and president of hockey operations, said in a statement.

“Mitchell and the Storm do not minimize what happened five years ago. Bullying and racially offensive remarks are wrong under any circumstance. Mitchell is fully aware of that, he regrets what he did, and is genuinely sorry. He’s grown and matured greatly since then, and we believe in the person that he’s become."

The team said Miller has been involved since the 2016 incident in community service initiatives that support anti-bullying efforts, special-needs children, disabled athletes, the homeless and the elderly.

"What I did when I was 14 years old was hurtful to others, and I'm truly sorry for that," Miller said in a statement. "I've done a lot of growing up over the past five years, and become a mature person who is respectful of everyone at all times. I pledge to make the most of this opportunity, and be a good person on and off the ice, helping others in as many ways as I can."

The USHL said it had vetted Miller and approved his return to the league.

"We will continue to support and guide Mitchell to ensure his maturation and commitment to helping others continues," Noreen said.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/h ... 594458001/

So with you on here opposed to this kid for what he did, should we now oppose any player from the USHL since they let him play and named him the MVP of their league after knowing this about him??? Nobody has blamed Tri-City for bringing him back that I know of. It clearly doesn't mean they support bullying or what he did. We at BGSU cannot be brave enough to do the same? You can still let him on the team and be against bullying given everything he is currently doing to try and make things right, in my opinion.

[TalonsUpPuckDown]

Why the big push to get him into a BG sweater?

[BGPuckster2]

To shed some light on me, I am a passionate fan of BGSU hockey. My Freshman year was 1978 so I was there when the team was really good. I want them so badly to get back to that level maybe it's clouding my judgement. I have been a big supporter of this team over the years and for many years employed BG players over the summer so they could stay and work out in BG. I was here through the times when there was talk of shutting things down as well. I was very involved in keeping BG hockey going and making sure it wouldn't be dropped. I met with President Cartwright when that rumor came out and and implored her not to let that happen.

I am not here to make enemies with any of you other BG fans, I just want to improve this team. I believe Tri-City has shown the way on how to handle this issue and while giving Mitch Mitchell a second chance, also improve our on ice performance.

The captain of Minnesota State this season is a Toledo kid that wanted to play here. We let that one slip through our hands. We are not a good enough team to keep allowing that to happen. Yes, Miller comes with bad baggage but I believe he has contrition and has been doing everything he needs to do. Let's take a chance and improve this team while giving a kid a second chance. Let's choose redemption over vengeance. That is my entire point with this subject.

[jpfalcon09]

To shed some light on me, I am a passionate fan of BGSU hockey. My Freshman year was 1978 so I was there when the team was really good. I want them so badly to get back to that level maybe it's clouding my judgement. I have been a big supporter of this team over the years and for many years employed BG players over the summer so they could stay and work out in BG. I was here through the times when there was talk of shutting things down as well. I was very involved in keeping BG hockey going and making sure it wouldn't be dropped. I met with President Cartwright when that rumor came out and and implored her not to let that happen.

I am not here to make enemies with any of you other BG fans, I just want to improve this team. I believe Tri-City has shown the way on how to handle this issue and while giving Mitch Mitchell a second chance, also improve our on ice performance.

The captain of Minnesota State this season is a Toledo kid that wanted to play here. We let that one slip through our hands. We are not a good enough team to keep allowing that to happen. Yes, Miller comes with bad baggage but I believe he has contrition and has been doing everything he needs to do. Let's take a chance and improve this team while giving a kid a second chance. Let's choose redemption over vengeance. That is my entire point with this subject.

The staff brought in some good pieces this off-season, both recruits and transfers. They should be more competitive across the board. We all share the same passion for the program. Miller will probably be afforded his second chance through juniors or the minor leagues. Pretty high likelihood college hockey doesn't touch him again.

[TalonsUpPuckDown]

To shed some light on me, I am a passionate fan of BGSU hockey. My Freshman year was 1978 so I was there when the team was really good. I want them so badly to get back to that level maybe it's clouding my judgement. I have been a big supporter of this team over the years and for many years employed BG players over the summer so they could stay and work out in BG. I was here through the times when there was talk of shutting things down as well. I was very involved in keeping BG hockey going and making sure it wouldn't be dropped. I met with President Cartwright when that rumor came out and and implored her not to let that happen.

I am not here to make enemies with any of you other BG fans, I just want to improve this team. I believe Tri-City has shown the way on how to handle this issue and while giving Mitch Mitchell a second chance, also improve our on ice performance.

The captain of Minnesota State this season is a Toledo kid that wanted to play here. We let that one slip through our hands. We are not a good enough team to keep allowing that to happen. Yes, Miller comes with bad baggage but I believe he has contrition and has been doing everything he needs to do. Let's take a chance and improve this team while giving a kid a second chance. Let's choose redemption over vengeance. That is my entire point with this subject.

Welcome aboard, don't be a stranger. My freshman year was '81 so we were in the Ice Arena at the same time. We were on our way back from spring break when we heard the news that we'd won the natty.

What I know about this kid is what's been in the papers. I appreciate the passion and understand the points you're making. I'm not as far down the redemption path as you are but I get where you're coming from. I want to win too, but I don't want to win like SMU. I also don't want Mel Pearson coaching the team. There's a line for me. Personally, I have less tolerance for this sort of behavior than others may so I'll admit that that line may be a lot tighter for me than for you.

I wasn't aware Furry wanted to go to BG. If so, yeah, there's one that got away.

[pdt1081]

Family? LOL, you guys really do think you know way more than you do. I have never met him or anyone in his family. Who know this guy the best right now, people on this board or his Tri-City USHL team? Here is what they have to say. Please read it with an open mind. I'm sensing peoples reactions on here say way more about themselves than Mitch Miller.......

.....

So with you on here opposed to this kid for what he did, should we now oppose any player from the USHL since they let him play and named him the MVP of their league after knowing this about him??? Nobody has blamed Tri-City for bringing him back that I know of. It clearly doesn't mean they support bullying or what he did. We at BGSU cannot be brave enough to do the same? You can still let him on the team and be against bullying given everything he is currently doing to try and make things right, in my opinion.

Yes, you're acting a lot like a family member, or closely associated PR representative. You say you're not, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt there. To be a close to the program as you claim, and still trying to compare what this kid did to the traffic accident Price had tells me something was/is seriously clouding your judgement here. Or, you are cherry picking a story trying to make this kid look better.

Kids today think the word "sorry" is a fix all. The fact he had to be court ordered to even say it speaks extremely loudly. Sure, he's been involved with "anti-bullying" PR stuff since then. But that's just what it is, PR. His parents realized if the case ever became public, he was done. So they tried to get in front of it, "look, he's a changed person." Actions still have consequences, even when "sorry." An athletic scholarship, and playing Division 1 hockey, should be a reward for skill and character throughout your playing career, not just the recent past. First time that kid steps on the ice for a game in the E, he'll be lucky to finish with his head still attached.

[BGPuckster2]

PDT, can you help me understand how you can forgive someone convicted of manslaughter for actions while a BG player and not forgive someone that was convicted of bullying long before he ever even thought about college? He hadn't even been to high school yet. I was way more conflicted about bringing Dan Price back than this kid. You're right, the situations are not the same. Killing a man as an adult is far worse than bullying someone when your a juvenile, sorry or not.

Don't give him a scholarship and let him walk on the team to see if he really has learned his lesson and is a different person. If he isn't what he says he is now, boot him. I wouldn't want him on the team then either.

I hope this kid is given a shot as I think he deserves the second chance. I would really hope, if Tri-City reports are correct, he has learned how wrong what he did was and is helping with anti-bullying messages along with the other things he says he is doing.

[pdt1081]

PDT, can you help me understand how you can forgive someone convicted of manslaughter for actions while a BG player and not forgive someone that was convicted of bullying long before he ever even thought about college? He hadn't even been to high school yet. I was way more conflicted about bringing Dan Price back than this kid. You're right, the situations are not the same. Killing a man as an adult is far worse than bullying someone when your a juvenile, sorry or not.

Don't give him a scholarship and let him walk on the team to see if he really has learned his lesson and is a different person. If he isn't what he says he is now, boot him. I wouldn't want him on the team then either.

I hope this kid is given a shot as I think he deserves the second chance. I would really hope, if Tri-City reports are correct, he has learned how wrong what he did was and is helping with anti-bullying messages along with the other things he says he is doing.

It was a vehicle accident. One in which the passenger, who was also the car owner, had to work to talk him into taking it for a drive. He was below the legal limit and the most sober person to drive that car that night. It was also a one time incident with no priors on his record.

This kid repeatedly bullied another. And would only apologize for it when the court ordered him to. I'm not saying his career should be over. I'm saying it doesn't need to go through here.

[BGPuckster2]

Fair enough PDT. I understand your position, we just disagree.

Someone want to tell me how you all are quoting text from previous posts and putting them in your posts please? I haven't been able to figure it out.

Talons Up, unlike Mitchell Miller, I do know the Furry family as he played with my son years ago at Tamo and the Ice House. He was an OK player in juniors and wanted to come to BG. BG spoke with him and offered him to walk on. He got an offer from Canisius I believe, so he took it. Then his last year in Juniors he had a great season and Minnesota State came calling and got him away from Canisius. He had to sit a year as Canisius wouldn't release him from his commitment with them. Not sure why BG didn't offer him or pursue him further. Then again, it worked out well for him as he is on a great team and is one of their captains now.

I have an eye on another Toledo/Sylvania kid that I told Ty to watch. He played baseball with my son this summer. My son said he is a better hockey player than baseball player. I asked him who he played for in Toledo and my son said he played for a team in Detroit. My son looked him up and turns out he was their leading scorer. Here's hoping he keeps playing well and we keep him local if he does.

[pdt1081]

Someone want to tell me how you all are quoting text from previous posts and putting them in your posts please? I haven't been able to figure it out.

Talons Up, unlike Mitchell Miller, I do know the Furry family as he played with my son years ago at Tamo and the Ice House. He was an OK player in juniors and wanted to come to BG. BG spoke with him and offered him to walk on. He got an offer from Canisius I believe, so he took it. Then his last year in Juniors he had a great season and Minnesota State came calling and got him away from Canisius. He had to sit a year as Canisius wouldn't release him from his commitment with them. Not sure why BG didn't offer him or pursue him further. Then again, it worked out well for him as he is on a great team and is one of their captains now.

The quotation marks above the post.

As for Furry, sounds like he signed an NLI with Canisius (reason he had to sit a year). Most coaches would see that as wasted resources to pursue him further. There's also some coaches that still follow the "Gentleman's Agreement" when it comes to verbal commitments.

[TalonsUpPuckDown]

Looks like the kiss of death comes early this year. ECH has us ranked #20 in their preseason poll.

I enjoy these preseason polls. Hockey East media poll has BC finishing 7th in the conference. ECH ranks them right ahead of us at 19. Mmmmkaaay, something's amiss here. Standard 4 Nacho teams are ranked; Western is unranked as is Miami State (I wanted to point that out). Mankato clocks in at #7. I guess the pollsters felt there should be two CCHA teams in the mix and randomly picked us over Bemidji and Tech?

1. Denver
2. Minnesota
3. Michigan
4. UMD
5. North Dakota
6. Northeastern
7. Minnesota St.
8. Quinnipiac
9. Notre Dame
10. Harvard
11. SCSU
12. BU
13. UMass
14. ASU
15. Providence
16. Penn St.
17. UMass Lowell
18. Clarkson
19. BC
20. BGSU

https://twitter.com/TeamECH/status/1569449173749219328