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[guest44]

A perfectly capable walk-on who wouldn't have walked on at BGSU if his dad with not an administrator at BGSU. He would be at Tiffin or Wittenberg or Heidelberg.

[BillyLP]

A perfectly capable walk-on who wouldn't have walked on at BGSU if his dad with not an administrator at BGSU. He would be at Tiffin or Wittenberg or Heidelberg.

I don’t disagree he might be somewhere else, but that doesn’t change that I think he’s a good fit on this team. The hate for Jim Elsasser is something we’ll never agree on. I had nothing but great interactions with him as a student, and his passion for the school probably exceeds all of ours. He bleeds brown and orange.

[Globetrotter]

A perfectly capable walk-on who wouldn't have walked on at BGSU if his dad with not an administrator at BGSU. He would be at Tiffin or Wittenberg or Heidelberg.

Please stop. We know your opinion. WE don't want to hear it.

[guest44]

A perfectly capable walk-on who wouldn't have walked on at BGSU if his dad with not an administrator at BGSU. He would be at Tiffin or Wittenberg or Heidelberg.

I don’t disagree he might be somewhere else, but that doesn’t change that I think he’s a good fit on this team. The hate for Jim Elsasser is something we’ll never agree on. I had nothing but great interactions with him as a student, and his passion for the school probably exceeds all of ours. He bleeds brown and orange.

It's not hate, it's just basic nepotism.

[BillyLP]

Stevenson for WVU seems like a real piece of work. He’s their top scorer but even his own team doesn’t seem to like him. Probably explains why it’s his fourth school. He and Turner got into it a little during the first half, and he’s been in Curtis’s ear all game.

[hammb]

Having obly watched the second half this looks like a truly awful offensive basketball team. Some transition off turnovers and free throws on bailed out crazy drives is basically your offense. I could give credit for a handful of nice drive/kickouts but we're kicking it out to guys who can't shoot.

I think there has been maybe 1-2 offensive sets in the entire half that have resulted in a made FG.

As bad as my worst fears.

[Diemilkweed]

Looking at the box score - Matheney is 1-11. Picking up right where he left off.

The 1st ten games of his career with us were an illusion.

[Diemilkweed]

Lightfoot, Curtis, Agee, Towns and O'Neal

The only players to hit more than 1 shot.

Make that the starting 5.

And for god's sake, stop playing Matheney at all.

[guest44]

If Matheny can’t shoot, this could be the worst offensive team since Orr and Luke Kraus. In all reality best chance of winning might be to call Louis Orr, go big, and play zone all night long. Slow it down, and slop it up like West Virginia will have to do to be competitive in Big 12.

[BillyLP]

Lightfoot, Curtis, Agee, Towns and O'Neal

The only players to hit more than 1 shot.

Make that the starting 5.

And for god's sake, stop playing Matheney at all.

That’s actually exactly the starting five I’d chose after watching. Diarra needs a lot of playing time and I think Ayers will be a good guard, as well. Metheny needs to drop to drop to 10-15 minutes a game as a high energy, change of pace sub.

I actually liked how the team attempted to share the ball tonight. Several decent passes weren’t converted and a couple of great opportunities were wasted by bad passes. Sharpen that up we had a game. Off camera, I think the team looks pretty high energy and positive on the bench. Agee was the only one I have complaints about in that department.

[Globetrotter]

A perfectly capable walk-on who wouldn't have walked on at BGSU if his dad with not an administrator at BGSU. He would be at Tiffin or Wittenberg or Heidelberg.

I don’t disagree he might be somewhere else, but that doesn’t change that I think he’s a good fit on this team. The hate for Jim Elsasser is something we’ll never agree on. I had nothing but great interactions with him as a student, and his passion for the school probably exceeds all of ours. He bleeds brown and orange.

It's not hate, it's just basic nepotism.

Everyone understands it and no one cares. There isn't a person on this board that wants to hear more about it. Everyone of us would rather sit down with Elsasser and have a conversation than hear you whine about everything.

[Globetrotter]

Lightfoot, Curtis, Agee, Towns and O'Neal

The only players to hit more than 1 shot.

Make that the starting 5.

And for god's sake, stop playing Matheney at all.

You can't play Towns-Agee and O'Neal together. They couldn't guard anyone.

[BillyLP]

Lightfoot, Curtis, Agee, Towns and O'Neal

The only players to hit more than 1 shot.

Make that the starting 5.

And for god's sake, stop playing Matheney at all.

You can't play Towns-Agee and O'Neal together. They couldn't guard anyone.

Fair. Perhaps replace Towns with Ayers. I liked the way Ayers moved on the floor and his basic skills, he just couldn't get anything going tonight.

[Globetrotter]

We have undeniably the worst coaching I have ever seen. No player is put in a position to succeed.

8 assists and 20 turnovers
30% from 2
24% from 3

Almost none of that was caused by a very average West Virginia team.

It seemed like Diarra was the first off the bench....then played 2 more minutes the rest of the game. Did he get hurt? He seemed to play well. Are we hiding him to sneak him on to the practice squad?
When you are trying to develop a roster why is Elsasser playing in the first half at all?
Do you eat a redshirt by letting Felt and McComb play in a preseason game? I would assume not. But we don't see a glimpse. Were they hurt?
Why were the starters playing so late in the game. Am I to assume they are settled? That would be a mistake imo.

From what I saw what I would do.

PG
1-Metheny 5-11 So: Metheny still starts. He's a pesky defender, solid ball handler and press breaker. If we had an offense he would get us into it quickly. His shot is broken and that's a huge issue. He was obviously pressing mightily tonight. 1-12, 1-7. And a coach that let him do that is terrible. But in that mess he had 3 assists to 0 turnovers.
2- Lightfoot 6-0 Fr: 7 pts in 18 minutes. 2 steals. He is quicker, longer and stronger than Metheny. He has solid handle and although he looked a bit raw he didn't look out of place. He played 18 minutes to Metheny's 32 which means both he will be relied on to play a ton and they won't hesitate to play them together. If we are truly losing Mills-Curtis and Ayers after this year, then when the two of them are on the court that's a preview of our starting backcourt for 2023-2024. A backcourt that will be aggressive, fantastic ballhandlers, annoying on defense, undersized who might not bring a ton offensively. I'd rotate the two of them not just in game but as starters.

SG
1-Curtis 6-4 Sr: He is our best player and it's not close. He can distribute and score. (I don't watch defense enough to know if he's any good there). He was efficient scoring tonight and that's typical. With his length he can play anywhere from 1-3. If he we had an offense he would pair excellently with either Metheny or Lightfoot.
2-Mills 6-3 Sr: Mills averaged 13.9 ppg at Binghamton. I truly don't see how that is possible in his first 2 years here. He did nothing last year. He was indistinguishable from anyone else tonight. He should be G 5 in this rotation. I am pleased that it seems that Huger has realized this as he was 5th in minutes tonight amongst the guards.

SF
1-Ayers 6-5 Sr: He played the 4th most minutes. His game seems like what I expected of Turner. A capable worst starter. He averaged 10+ in 2 stops so far but that didn't flash tonight. He has length, seems to be in the right place at the right time and will chip in everywhere on the court from rebounding to distributing. I didn't see anything dynamic.

PF
1-O'Neil 6-7 Sr: What in the world was this? I was mad he was starting, assuming it was just a gesture to a SR. Then he balled out. He put up 10 efficient points and bullied WV at times. He went from afterthought who stumbled through things last year to rotational player tonight for me. The problem is his ceiling should be worst 5th starter but more likely 7-8th guy who comes off the bench to bang and contribute. We have to ask him to start?
2-Turner 6-7 Sr: I thought he would be in the O'Neil role and frankly I assume they will just rotate and it won't matter much who starts. Gabe had 19 minutes tonight and Turner 22.

C
1-Agee 6-8 Jr: He put up a quiet 10 rbs, 9pts, 2 steals and a block in 25 mins tonight. Apparently seemed frustrated at times....which also showed....he had 6 TOs. I honestly noticed the turnovers more than the pts and rebounds and was pleasantly surprised when I saw the boxscore. It seemed like the game was too fast and long for him at times....but the box would say otherwise. His upside is All-MAC recognition. If this team is to do anything then he will have to reach that upside.
2-Towns 6-9 Jr: The OU transfer was boring, I am not quite sure where he played but it seems like the 3 and 5. He just seemed to be chasing everything and not dictating anything. I hope there is a better solution
3-Diarra 6-11 Sr: The Juco alum who put up almost no numbers at that level had 2 quick rebounds and 2 quick points and then basically didn't play again.....was he hurt....wtf?
4-Etim 6-9 Fr: 2 minutes.... No idea

Also players
1-Felt 6-9 Fr: Uber athletic in hs...not sure about his production...apparently redshirting
2-McComb 6-3 Fr: Uber productive...not sure about his athleticism...apparently redshirting

[fredthefalcon]

If you guys want to see years of eligibility left, go to BGSUfalcons and click on basketball roster then on each player individually. They have listed years of eligibility left including this year. Only ones on their last year of eligibility are O'Neil and Ayers.