vs. Kent State (11/9)

[Falconfreak90]

Was at the game and yeah, stayed the whole game. Our O line is weak and disinterested....pretty much the whole team looked like they wanted to be anywhere else but at the Doyt. BiG division game and we sheet the bed. Loefller is consistently inconsistent getting this team up for games. I'm sure the new AD has some thoughts to address the situation. This was almost as bad as the UB game.

[Flipper]

I don’t care what analytics suggest, or what is vogue in the game today. Going for it on 4th and long from midfield, with a less than powerhouse team is foolish, arrogant, reckless… choose your adjective. He has done this since day 1. It has put our D on their heels way too often and cost us many games. Don’t blame the players for perceiving they don’t care…. At some point they say WTF?!? And know what is coming next… He has no game day chops. That will never change or evolve.

Nothing they did last night worked. Not a damn thing...defensively or offensively. Loeffler is stubborn...he continues to stick to his guns even though it's apparent that we can't move the ball consistently against a decent defense. The unwillingness to change his approach will ultimately cost him his job.

[jpfalcon09]

(Few things are as fun as watching a big ol' tight end grab the ball and rumble down the field.) I'd feel good about having a kid play for him.

You don’t need to run a 1988 offense to utilize your tight ends though. They should be running a scheme that covers up their poor offensive line and limited qb but they don’t. Plenty of skilled guys they could get the ball to in a more modern offense.

Agreed. Dino used a TE in 2015 with some success. Probably would have seen Kent do the same last night but both of their TEs were injured.

[jpfalcon09]

I don’t care what analytics suggest, or what is vogue in the game today. Going for it on 4th and long from midfield, with a less than powerhouse team is foolish, arrogant, reckless… choose your adjective. He has done this since day 1. It has put our D on their heels way too often and cost us many games. Don’t blame the players for perceiving they don’t care…. At some point they say WTF?!? And know what is coming next… He has no game day chops. That will never change or evolve.

Nothing they did last night worked. Not a damn thing...defensively or offensively. Loeffler is stubborn...he continues to stick to his guns even though it's apparent that we can't move the ball consistently against a decent defense. The unwillingness to change his approach will ultimately cost him his job.

Cal Bowers mentioned on the radio broadcast that the game plan seemed to be designed under the guise that BG knew the OL wasn't going to hold up. That's where I don't get the outcoached BS from Loeffler. He played right into Kent's hands last night. Yet McDonald was still sacked several times with basic three and four-man fronts.

The other thing I don't get is why BG decided to match the tempo game. This offense already struggles enough. What's with going no huddle? Ball control and managing the clock should have been the way to go last night. Instead BG played right into Kent's hands.

[guest44]

At the end of the day Loeffler said it. The offensive coordinator for the coach who used BGSU, out coached him. The series so far...

2019 -- 62-20 Kent St.
2020 -- 62-24 Kent St.
2021 -- 27-20 Kent St.
2022 -- 40-6 Kent St.

Yep, Bowling Green needs a new football coach.

[Flipper]

In our four conference home games, we've scored a total of 43 points. We used to score that in a half in the early to mid 2000's

[BPardonMyTake]

Score/stats/game flow/game plan/turnovers whatever aside, I lost all respect for Loeffler after that sideline penalty on Ferguson. Completely crippled any shot we had at a comeback and yet he let Ferguson just go right back to where he was standing without so much as a glare. I don't follow enough college football outside of the MAC to know who we should be targeting as our next coach. I just want whoever that may be to send a player straight to the locker room if something like that happens again. There was no better representation of that game last night than that penalty. Absolutely positively embarrassing.

[TommyG]

Little surprised it was such a lopsided loss, but not shocked.

The defense almost always has to be exceptional for BG to win. To their credit, they usually do that against teams that struggle to pass the ball. Also fortunately for them, the MAC has about 50-60% of the conference that really doesn’t have a healthy QB that can play the position even close to competent.

When a team can move it in the air, the defense is lucky to keep the opponent under 35 points. For 99% of games, that isn’t going to be good enough because the offense doesn’t score.

The team is more talented this year, but they are a coach and QB away from threatening to finish over .500. The 5 wins are mostly an illusion. Wins are wins, but it’s kind of foolish to think this staff will actually compete for titles.

[kdog27]

Score/stats/game flow/game plan/turnovers whatever aside, I lost all respect for Loeffler after that sideline penalty on Ferguson. Completely crippled any shot we had at a comeback and yet he let Ferguson just go right back to where he was standing without so much as a glare. I don't follow enough college football outside of the MAC to know who we should be targeting as our next coach. I just want whoever that may be to send a player straight to the locker room if something like that happens again. There was no better representation of that game last night than that penalty. Absolutely positively embarrassing.

Said player been running his mouth since first game at BG. He’s consistent. Even runs his mouth in street clothes.

[Bgsu2016]

I don’t care what analytics suggest, or what is vogue in the game today. Going for it on 4th and long from midfield, with a less than powerhouse team is foolish, arrogant, reckless… choose your adjective. He has done this since day 1. It has put our D on their heels way too often and cost us many games. Don’t blame the players for perceiving they don’t care…. At some point they say WTF?!? And know what is coming next… He has no game day chops. That will never change or evolve.

Well said man. I agree, the 4th down attempts were something I would not even do in Madden, let alone in actual football. I think the offense needs some kind of adjustment, we’ve scored 7-17-34-13-6 in the last 5. In todays game 20 points should not be a reach for any team

[Schadenfreude]

I don’t care what analytics suggest, or what is vogue in the game today. Going for it on 4th and long from midfield, with a less than powerhouse team is foolish, arrogant, reckless… choose your adjective. He has done this since day 1. It has put our D on their heels way too often and cost us many games. Don’t blame the players for perceiving they don’t care…. At some point they say WTF?!? And know what is coming next… He has no game day chops. That will never change or evolve.

Well said man. I agree, the 4th down attempts were something I would not even do in Madden, let alone in actual football. I think the offense needs some kind of adjustment, we’ve scored 7-17-34-13-6 in the last 5. In todays game 20 points should not be a reach for any team

There is a line of thinking that most coaches are too conservative when it comes to going for it on fourth down.

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/05/upsh ... d-why.html

[kdog27]

I don’t care what analytics suggest, or what is vogue in the game today. Going for it on 4th and long from midfield, with a less than powerhouse team is foolish, arrogant, reckless… choose your adjective. He has done this since day 1. It has put our D on their heels way too often and cost us many games. Don’t blame the players for perceiving they don’t care…. At some point they say WTF?!? And know what is coming next… He has no game day chops. That will never change or evolve.

Well said man. I agree, the 4th down attempts were something I would not even do in Madden, let alone in actual football. I think the offense needs some kind of adjustment, we’ve scored 7-17-34-13-6 in the last 5. In todays game 20 points should not be a reach for any team

There is a line of thinking that most coaches are too conservative when it comes to going for it on fourth down.

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/05/upsh ... d-why.html

But BG runs a conservative offense and doesn’t even run it well. It’s one thing when you are an offensive power and you’re winning your matchups more often than not.

[BGSU33]

The fact that Loeffler said after the Kent State game that this is the "first" time he felt he was outcoached says all we need to know and hear. If he truly believes that was the first time he's been outcoached - then there's truly no hope at all for the guy here. Wow...I couldn't believe he stated that with a straight face. And the way he goes on and on after every loss talking about how we "could" have scored more points if X, Y and Z happened. Well no $hit! But they didn't happen, hence the reason why things are what they are.

[Falconfreak90]

Score/stats/game flow/game plan/turnovers whatever aside, I lost all respect for Loeffler after that sideline penalty on Ferguson. Completely crippled any shot we had at a comeback and yet he let Ferguson just go right back to where he was standing without so much as a glare. I don't follow enough college football outside of the MAC to know who we should be targeting as our next coach. I just want whoever that may be to send a player straight to the locker room if something like that happens again. There was no better representation of that game last night than that penalty. Absolutely positively embarrassing.

This. Dude in street clothes and costs us 15 yards. Been running his mouth since he got here. How the hell was he still on the sideline after that?

[Class of 61]

Mike, we were at game in usual seats…( actually not- went down to the BROWN seats) since it was so “crowded”.
Joyce wanted to leave, but I said I wanted to watch one more BG series. Then the pick 6 happened… ended our nite in a hurry.
How can you show up FLAT when you’re still tied for 1st in Div., chance to be bowl eligible?
Unreal.
But whole trip was enjoyable notwithstanding poor game.