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Student section was embarrassing. That might be because they sat wherever they wanted, including in my seats. I sat one row up and let my son act silly. He was more entertaining than the game.

Next time Curtis shoots a random 3 with 12+ on the shot clock, he needs to run laps. The dude puts up points through sheer quantity of shots, not quality. Mills can’t hit the broad side of the barn. Hell, at least Elsasser hustles and makes the few shots he does take. That’s more than I can say for half of the team.

The bright spot was watching Agee bully the defenders all day. That was fun and it was like watching old school Shaq a little bit.

We missed the beginning of the game so I could get dinner for the family. Is Metheny hurt?
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Here we go. Volleyball was fun. We lost. Former BG LT Jacob Bennett is in my league. He is an awesome guy.
No Metheny: That will mean people who hate Metheny will be able to see what it’s like without him. Should be interesting. I would bet we lose.
The offense starts with Chandler Turner? What are the announcers talking about? He is a 4th option. A great guy to have on your team but nothing special offensively. He scores by being smart and hustling. Anthony McCombs starting?
Curtis hits a 3. It was an ugly shot
Nice pass by Curtis to Turner
Moving the ball well. Good shots for Turner and Towns that just aren’t falling
McComb with a nice two getting his own shot
Curtis takes bad shots but got to the basket
We are down 18-9…we just consistently take bad shots and other teams make the extra pass
You would hope this would be the game Lighfoot or Mills or McCombs I guess show something. Instead we get Elsasser at the 12 minute mark
Lightfoot fought for a rebound and then a great pass to Agee for the dunk. Agee needs to start.
Ayers with a nice 2. He has a nice stroke.
25-15 Queens after Elsasser gives up another score
Elsasser hits a 3
Here is a cool article about an BG ex employee who is now at Holy Cross https://goholycross.com/staff-directory/kit-hughes/424
Down 31-20….they are just bombing threes
Fast break and an Agee dunk
Curtis bombed a 3 to put us at 25-31
Ayers has been really quiet.
Turner with a great board and layup.
McCombs should be in the rotation. I didn’t expect much but hes pretty good. I don’t think he has a high ceiling but he could be Chandler Turneresque
Towns is missing everything, making good moves and has a good shot though
Dr. Deborah Yow, former athletic director, North Carolina State University:
"Kit Hughes is a home run hire for Holy Cross. He will engage collaboratively with College leadership to support their overarching goals. At the same time, he will assess and determine the next best steps to advance the Holy Cross athletics program. This will best ensure that the student athletes have a positive and life-changing experience."
Towns finally hits after the half.
First free throws ins the 2nd half….what the hell. Turner hits both hes a dawg
Scoring in transition. That’s when Huger teams are at their best
Agee is our best post scoring threat. And he is someone other teams don’t want to guard. He should play as much as possible.
McCombs with a nice board than 2 fts
Hughes earned his bachelor's degree in sociology in 2001 from Bowdoin College in Brunswick, Maine and received his master's degree in higher education from Boston College in 2006. He was a four-year letterman in lacrosse at Bowdoin and led his team to the ECAC Championship in 2001.
6-6 at the line….need to get there more 45-48
I don’t know how McComb can be this good and basically non existent earlier
Curtis for the lead took a terrible shot.
Oneal with 2 baskets. He is a liability on d but can score well
They go on runs all the time when we take bad shots. There has to be a way to get them to just take way less bad shots
55-58 and Elsasser-Mills and Lightfoot are in
Elsasser with the bonehead turnover and then amazing hustle play
Curtis just had a terrible turnover then just watched them score 59-67
64-69 with 30 seconds left and not acting like that’s all the time left
Dumb finish
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Globe you kept a few key pieces out….

While at Bowling Green, Hughes helped lead day-to-day operations of the Falcons’ athletic department, and was responsible for administration of its men’s basketball and football teams. He came to Bowling Green after seven years at North Carolina State University.

Two programs that have seen or are about to see the worst stretches in decades.

Bob Moosbrugger, director of athletics and recreation, Bowling Green State University:
“Kit Hughes is a terrific choice for Holy Cross as the new Director of Athletics. His commitment to and passion for the growth of student-athletes, coaches and staff is one that he will bring great energy to at Holy Cross. Kit has been instrumental in our overall success at Bowling Green State University. His solution-based, collaborative approach has led to record-setting academic, athletic and fundraising success. Although he will be greatly missed at BGSU, I am happy for Kit, Katy, Finley, Coady, Cullen and Griffin.”

Says the fired athletic director who got fired six months later for letting said person run the athletic department for him. BGSU now pays him to like spend his days on Twitter. It has to be tough to say such nice things about the person most responsible in getting you fired.
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Thanks for the writeup, Globe. I didn’t watch the game (don’t really feel like working myself up about a terrible team) so I appreciate the breakdown, as always.
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Globe and I agree on a lot with this team. McCombs actually seems pretty good. Agee is probably our best player, but he sits a lot. (possibly due to conditioning?) Oneal actually looked pretty decent last night. Curtis...all of that talent, nothing useful to show for it. The box score said he shot under 50%. I think that's his career average, honestly. Every time he shoots, I expect a giant brick. The dude can play, but he has no idea how to play apparently. He's our version of James Harden on an off shooting night.

Agee!!!! I want to see more of him! He's going to be the guy that gets us through this season, IF we make it through.
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Also, I will say that Elsasser does make some mistakes that you shouldn't make. I also watch half of our team make the same stupid mistakes. Is he singled out because of his name, the fact that he's a walk-on, he's white, or some combination? Quite honestly, he doesn't need a scholarship because he gets free tuition. So of course he's a walk-on. Now, the main question would be whether he would be worthy of a scholarship if one were offered. With this coach, he would have probably been given one. To me, it speaks volumes that the kid people gripe about the most is playing so many minutes. Either he's not as bad as we think he is, or he is that bad but the team is also that bad. I will give him credit on a couple things: he hustles, and he doesn't take stupid shots.
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Elsasser is the perfect summation of this program. The idea that he stepped foot on the court in the 1st half of a MAC Tournament game in Cleveland, told everyone that the coach has no idea what it will take to actually go to Cleveland and win that tournament. The roster has lacked talent ever since Anthony Stacey walked out the door. The window to win for Michael Huger was the two years after Nate Oats left Buffalo. Huger never replaced Wiggins. Instead he got a contract extension and the program has been a running joke since. They weren’t going to win the title the Covid shutdown year, and Turner got hurt in a meaningless game with the tournament seed already secured. Start Elsasser at this point. Start Watson too. It can’t be worse. It’s one thing to hit the transfer portal, it’s another to actually find winning players who will improve the team. So far Huger is hitting about 10%. Play Elsasser 30 minutes. Just fulfill the favors on the way out.
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Not that long ago I remember (at least myself) having these same conversations about Matt Fox. I do think Elsasser gets extra singled out due to his name, which largely stems from the fact that the dept has been so dysfunctional with his father there. Still, Matt Fox played a ton and they gave him scholarships too...as a senior he at least was a good enough shooter to be a playable player even if he never felt worthy of the scholarships.

I am with you fb51 on Agee. He's the one player that I think plays winning basketball. He rebounds, he competes on defense, he's got attitude, and he finishes at the rim with authority when he has the opportunity. As awful as last night's game was we still could have won if our other bigs could actually tip in a damned layup. OF course Agee does get fouls of aggression (on both ends) and Huger will never play a soul with 2 fouls in the first half or 3 fouls in the first 8:00 of the 2nd. It's his simplistic algorithm for playing time and Agee finds himself on the wrong end of it from time to time.

Ayers & Curtis are the most talented players on our team, and definitely our best scorers, but they don't play winning basketball. I believe, from the way they play the game, they are here because they don't care to play winning basketball. They're here because we have a coach who will happily let his most talented players "get theirs" regardless of how it happens. They both typically DO get theirs and they do it through inefficient piss poor shot selection. Neither shows consistent effort on defense, specifically caught being lax either over celebrating or lamenting their own makes/misses. I think Curtis gives up an answer bucket after nearly every tough shot he makes, it sure feels like it.

A good coach might corral that talent, but largely I think this is who those guys want to be and if anybody tried to get them to play good smart basketball they'd just transfer to find another Huger. His lack of offensive philosophy has become a self-fulfilling prophecy. He wants (needs) the next Justin Turner, so he'll always have guys willing to come in and try. But there aren't many players ending up at MAC schools capable of being the entire focus of an offense and do it efficiently enough to win. By the time he graduated Turner wasn't that player anymore. I have zero faith Ayers or Curtis will be either. At least not consistently enough to matter; I'm sure they'll each have a couple of hot games that get a win, but I'm Missouri when it comes to seeing it consistently.
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Elsasser is the new James Erger...the least of our issues given his minutes, but the focal point of a lot of criticism
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footballguy51 wrote: Wed Nov 30, 2022 8:21 am Also, I will say that Elsasser does make some mistakes that you shouldn't make. I also watch half of our team make the same stupid mistakes. Is he singled out because of his name, the fact that he's a walk-on, he's white, or some combination? Quite honestly, he doesn't need a scholarship because he gets free tuition. So of course he's a walk-on. Now, the main question would be whether he would be worthy of a scholarship if one were offered. With this coach, he would have probably been given one. To me, it speaks volumes that the kid people gripe about the most is playing so many minutes. Either he's not as bad as we think he is, or he is that bad but the team is also that bad. I will give him credit on a couple things: he hustles, and he doesn't take stupid shots.
I think he's a cool story for a walk on but with his limitations the fact that he is playing so much is the issue. If there were injuries or something else that led to him getting so much playing time it might make sense, but as is it really doesn't. It's just bad planning. And the weird thing is usually its the walk ons that are super polished smart players who don't make mental mistakes but have athletic limitations that hurt them. He constantly just stops paying attention on defense. He's not getting beat because he and the other guy go to move at the same time and hes a step slow. Hes getting beat because hes in the wrong position or still watching after the guy has already been moving. If he were playing because of an injury or because he was the clear 9th best player I think we would think differently. I actually think it's a cool story. Legacy player who was a star at the local school finding a niche for himself as a walk on.
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mbenecke wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:41 pm Tomorrow is DVDM’s first official day on the job.

I wonder if he’ll feel like he should make a huge decision about the direction of BG MBB on day 1…
He was at the game sitting right in the middle of the Anderson Club seating. I even noticed Huger peak over there at least once.

DVDM has come to the same yearly amount of games as his predecessor did before even having the job.
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hammb wrote: Wed Nov 30, 2022 9:01 am Ayers & Curtis are the most talented players on our team, and definitely our best scorers, but they don't play winning basketball. I believe, from the way they play the game, they are here because they don't care to play winning basketball. They're here because we have a coach who will happily let his most talented players "get theirs" regardless of how it happens. They both typically DO get theirs and they do it through inefficient piss poor shot selection. Neither shows consistent effort on defense, specifically caught being lax either over celebrating or lamenting their own makes/misses. I think Curtis gives up an answer bucket after nearly every tough shot he makes, it sure feels like it.

A good coach might corral that talent, but largely I think this is who those guys want to be and if anybody tried to get them to play good smart basketball they'd just transfer to find another Huger. His lack of offensive philosophy has become a self-fulfilling prophecy. He wants (needs) the next Justin Turner, so he'll always have guys willing to come in and try. But there aren't many players ending up at MAC schools capable of being the entire focus of an offense and do it efficiently enough to win. By the time he graduated Turner wasn't that player anymore. I have zero faith Ayers or Curtis will be either. At least not consistently enough to matter; I'm sure they'll each have a couple of hot games that get a win, but I'm Missouri when it comes to seeing it consistently.
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Was literally thinking last night that as good as he was Huger wasted Turner. Take just a little off his shoulders and he could have been even better. Put players in position to succeed easily....we never do that. Everything is stress. Everything is just by the skin of our teeth. We can't and don't consistently win games or series that way. We just get tired and burnt out.

I am overly optimistic about this team. Its all fixable stuff. They need depth and to focus on making the second pass and putting in more time on d. They actually played their best game so far against Notre Dame. Oneal and McCombs are shaping up to be low end minute rotational players which is great. If we can figure out minutes I think talent wise we could win games.

1 Metheny 25 Lightfoot 15
2 Curtis 30 McCombs 10
3 Ayers 30
4 Turner 25 Towns 8 Oneal 7
5 Agee 25 Towns 15

We would need to find 10 more minutes at SF which I think is pretty easily doable...But those 9 players are a decent team I think...if well coached, playing good d etc. They could beat or lose to anyone in the MAC

Mills gives you nothing and thats baffling for how well he played 2 years ago
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Aside from watching Agee play, the best part of the game was Pikachu winning Fan of the Game.
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BGorDeath wrote: Wed Nov 30, 2022 12:03 pm Aside from watching Agee play, the best part of the game was Pikachu winning Fan of the Game.
That's my son :)

He's been trying like hell for 7 yrs to win fan of the game and the cameras are almost always pointed to the falcon club side.

He was excited as hell then wanted to go home because he was gassed. We stayed til the end though.
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