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Flipper wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 12:03 pm
Globetrotter wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:18 am
roguewarrior wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:43 am
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Globetrotter wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:21 am
mbenecke wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:05 am We can’t be naive to the idea that schools are absolutely contacting these guys before they’re in the portal (supposed to be against the rules) to tell them they’ll get an offer to their bigger program. What are we supposed to do to keep guys at BG when P5 schools come calling? Like seriously, we can’t compete with that. I don’t think it would matter who the coach is, or how the program is, or anything like that.
And we should be doing the same. Sleeper agents everywhere.

There is absolutely no reason we shouldn't have a capable starting QB by May 1st. And there is no reason we need one by January 3rd. Just follow all of the QB competitions at major schools...see who loses...send in the sleeper agent. You are going to get guys with one year of eligibility left who don't want to sit on a bench. Take Nebraska. They have 3 guys competing for 1 job. A JR who was highly recruited, a Xfer JR from GA Tech and a SR who started last year. 2 guys have to lose. The two incumbent Nebraska players should both be on their way out if they lose.

I am not going to argue that this coach has a good offense or is building a great scheme. But these xfers are really not a big deal so far.
You think BGSU can figure out sleeper agents? Now that is funny. They haven't gotten to 2015 yet.
Tell me 007, the QB spot is open at BG?!? You mean I can take over a team with no returning o lineman and take deep drops waiting for excruciatingly complex routes to open up ? Sign me up!!
There are 140 Starting QB jobs in college football. Someone with some competence will want it. Just because disgruntled former players dad who has been disgruntled for the entirety of his existence on this board says it isn't the case doesn't make it logically not the case.

And they return 3 lineman and 6 overall with starting experience.
He's been right about pretty much everything....
His lens is always catastrophe.....6 wins weren't a catastrophe.
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hammb wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 12:06 pm
Globetrotter wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:25 am
hammb wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:17 am
jpfalcon09 wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:19 am
mbenecke wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:05 am We can’t be naive to the idea that schools are absolutely contacting these guys before they’re in the portal (supposed to be against the rules) to tell them they’ll get an offer to their bigger program. What are we supposed to do to keep guys at BG when P5 schools come calling? Like seriously, we can’t compete with that. I don’t think it would matter who the coach is, or how the program is, or anything like that.
Yeah, it's ridiculous to fault the coaching staff for guys wanting to leave for bigger programs. If anything it's proof the staff is doing a decent job at developing individual talent. But it's an opportunity to swipe at Loeffler so people are taking it. We also don't know what is going on at other MAC schools regarding NIL and the like, and why some programs aren't seeing similar attrition. There's a lot of context to all this. A guy like Anders may simply want to go get his masters in his field at a different school. Maybe BG doesn't have a program for what he's interested in? I'm surely not going to fault a guy for choosing to go that route.
I'll take any chance I can get to swipe at Loeffler, no secret there. I think he's an absolutely horrid coach; specifically offensively which is supposed to be his "expertise".

That said, I'm not ever going to fault kids for leaving for better situations. I also don't put it entirely on the coaching staff, necessarily. I also agree with you that it is a GOOD sign that we're developing players.

Still, I have really big issues that we've got a WR getting offers from major players in the P5 that we got a whopping 500 yards from this year. While I do agree you're likely always going to lose the kids that have a chance to play at A&M or similar programs, it is also indisputable that A) losing all this talent that has eligibility remaining will hurt the 2023 season, and B) that many of our competitors in the MAC are not losing this much talent with eligibility remaining. Is it Loeffler's fault, necessarily? Maybe not, but I already had pretty low hopes for next season, and these things don't help.

Realistically, if they cannot find a QB that wants to come here and is ready to play at an All-MAC level, why would anybody with options WANT to stay here? This system is proven garbage. The program is not in a good place whether we get these portal kids back or not. It's a snowballing effect that we cannot get immediate contributors here because we're not ready to win, and we will likely lose our best returning players because we're not ready to win...

The writing is on the wall, AFAIC, that 2022 was the "peak" of the last rebuild and it's time to start rebuilding...AGAIN...
The transfers shouldn't be the reasoning for the firing. The Offense should be. Also I would gladly-excitedly hand over the job to the list of candidates for WMU and Kent who didn't get the job.

Transfers happen.

We seem to have a program set in the stone age that is incapable of rebounding from transfers.
They do happen. And if we ran a competent offense we could probably get a good QB in here for next year. If we had prospects of landing a quality QB we'd probably retain more players, and also be able to add some playmakers ready to go as well.

I would never expect to hold onto kids that have big time options. But I would hope we could replace some of them with FCS kids who were able to ball out and/or P5 kids that were passed over on their depth charts.

If we're turning our hopes to more and more "kids who had no other offers" then we'll be waiting around for THOSE guys to develop...
Lawanson tweeted something about us getting a QB back on Christmas and seemed fired up about it, but didn't say who it was, and I've seen no sign of it since. Not sure if it fell through or if they just haven't announced yet.
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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal

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Globetrotter wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 1:24 pm
Flipper wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 12:03 pm
Globetrotter wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:18 am
roguewarrior wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:43 am
guest44 wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:29 am
Globetrotter wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:21 am
mbenecke wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:05 am We can’t be naive to the idea that schools are absolutely contacting these guys before they’re in the portal (supposed to be against the rules) to tell them they’ll get an offer to their bigger program. What are we supposed to do to keep guys at BG when P5 schools come calling? Like seriously, we can’t compete with that. I don’t think it would matter who the coach is, or how the program is, or anything like that.
And we should be doing the same. Sleeper agents everywhere.

There is absolutely no reason we shouldn't have a capable starting QB by May 1st. And there is no reason we need one by January 3rd. Just follow all of the QB competitions at major schools...see who loses...send in the sleeper agent. You are going to get guys with one year of eligibility left who don't want to sit on a bench. Take Nebraska. They have 3 guys competing for 1 job. A JR who was highly recruited, a Xfer JR from GA Tech and a SR who started last year. 2 guys have to lose. The two incumbent Nebraska players should both be on their way out if they lose.

I am not going to argue that this coach has a good offense or is building a great scheme. But these xfers are really not a big deal so far.
You think BGSU can figure out sleeper agents? Now that is funny. They haven't gotten to 2015 yet.
Tell me 007, the QB spot is open at BG?!? You mean I can take over a team with no returning o lineman and take deep drops waiting for excruciatingly complex routes to open up ? Sign me up!!
There are 140 Starting QB jobs in college football. Someone with some competence will want it. Just because disgruntled former players dad who has been disgruntled for the entirety of his existence on this board says it isn't the case doesn't make it logically not the case.

And they return 3 lineman and 6 overall with starting experience.
He's been right about pretty much everything....
His lens is always catastrophe.....6 wins weren't a catastrophe.
I think you overstated the negativity...and no, six wins isn't a catastrophe, but there were enough catastrophic losses in 2022 to be a cause for concern. Couple that with so many players with eligibility left exiting the program...I would certainly think we're facing a catastrophic 2023
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Flipper wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 2:19 pm
Globetrotter wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 1:24 pm
Flipper wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 12:03 pm
Globetrotter wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:18 am
roguewarrior wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:43 am
guest44 wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:29 am
Globetrotter wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:21 am
mbenecke wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:05 am We can’t be naive to the idea that schools are absolutely contacting these guys before they’re in the portal (supposed to be against the rules) to tell them they’ll get an offer to their bigger program. What are we supposed to do to keep guys at BG when P5 schools come calling? Like seriously, we can’t compete with that. I don’t think it would matter who the coach is, or how the program is, or anything like that.
And we should be doing the same. Sleeper agents everywhere.

There is absolutely no reason we shouldn't have a capable starting QB by May 1st. And there is no reason we need one by January 3rd. Just follow all of the QB competitions at major schools...see who loses...send in the sleeper agent. You are going to get guys with one year of eligibility left who don't want to sit on a bench. Take Nebraska. They have 3 guys competing for 1 job. A JR who was highly recruited, a Xfer JR from GA Tech and a SR who started last year. 2 guys have to lose. The two incumbent Nebraska players should both be on their way out if they lose.

I am not going to argue that this coach has a good offense or is building a great scheme. But these xfers are really not a big deal so far.
You think BGSU can figure out sleeper agents? Now that is funny. They haven't gotten to 2015 yet.
Tell me 007, the QB spot is open at BG?!? You mean I can take over a team with no returning o lineman and take deep drops waiting for excruciatingly complex routes to open up ? Sign me up!!
There are 140 Starting QB jobs in college football. Someone with some competence will want it. Just because disgruntled former players dad who has been disgruntled for the entirety of his existence on this board says it isn't the case doesn't make it logically not the case.

And they return 3 lineman and 6 overall with starting experience.
He's been right about pretty much everything....
His lens is always catastrophe.....6 wins weren't a catastrophe.
I think you overstated the negativity...and no, six wins isn't a catastrophe, but there were enough catastrophic losses in 2022 to be a cause for concern. Couple that with so many players with eligibility left exiting the program...I would certainly think we're facing a catastrophic 2023
Lots of time to see how this all bears out. There's more players in the portal than available spots on FBS rosters, BG will undoubtedly have some say in who ends up coming, and it might be a net positive, who knows. Need to wait and see how it all shakes out.
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Flipper wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 12:03 pm
Globetrotter wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:18 am
roguewarrior wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:43 am
guest44 wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:29 am
Globetrotter wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:21 am
mbenecke wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:05 am We can’t be naive to the idea that schools are absolutely contacting these guys before they’re in the portal (supposed to be against the rules) to tell them they’ll get an offer to their bigger program. What are we supposed to do to keep guys at BG when P5 schools come calling? Like seriously, we can’t compete with that. I don’t think it would matter who the coach is, or how the program is, or anything like that.
And we should be doing the same. Sleeper agents everywhere.

There is absolutely no reason we shouldn't have a capable starting QB by May 1st. And there is no reason we need one by January 3rd. Just follow all of the QB competitions at major schools...see who loses...send in the sleeper agent. You are going to get guys with one year of eligibility left who don't want to sit on a bench. Take Nebraska. They have 3 guys competing for 1 job. A JR who was highly recruited, a Xfer JR from GA Tech and a SR who started last year. 2 guys have to lose. The two incumbent Nebraska players should both be on their way out if they lose.

I am not going to argue that this coach has a good offense or is building a great scheme. But these xfers are really not a big deal so far.
You think BGSU can figure out sleeper agents? Now that is funny. They haven't gotten to 2015 yet.
Tell me 007, the QB spot is open at BG?!? You mean I can take over a team with no returning o lineman and take deep drops waiting for excruciatingly complex routes to open up ? Sign me up!!
There are 140 Starting QB jobs in college football. Someone with some competence will want it. Just because disgruntled former players dad who has been disgruntled for the entirety of his existence on this board says it isn't the case doesn't make it logically not the case.

And they return 3 lineman and 6 overall with starting experience.
He's been right about pretty much everything....
I’ll admit I didn’t care much for rogue when he first got here. But I grew to change my mind and appreciate a lot of what he had to say.
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Kdog:
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It’s not my point of view, it’s a fact.
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roguewarrior wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 7:10 pm Kdog:
I can read this…. Ha
LMAO I'm admitting the errors in my ways. Many parents have come and gone on here over the years, Hope you stick around.
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Lets say we land Logan Smothers
Terion Stewart comes back

QB1: JR Logan Smothers: https://huskers.com/sports/football/ros ... hers/44664
QB2: FR Lucian Anderson
RB1-RB5: Stewart, Patterson, Johnson, Keith, Mosley
WR: Hilaire?-Embry
WR: Ibrahim
WR: Osborne-Grguric
Slot WR/Wing Back: Keith
TE: Fanin
TE: Gazarek

that offense is fine.
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Let’s not say we get Logan Smothers. It’s got roughly a .01% chance. We haven’t gotten any quarterback we wanted not named Matt McDonald who nobody else wanted.
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guest44 wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:37 am Let’s not say we get Logan Smothers. It’s got roughly a .01% chance. We haven’t gotten any quarterback we wanted not named Matt McDonald who nobody else wanted.
Because we already had Matt McDonald dummy
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Offers in for Sacramento State DB Cameron Broussard, and Darryl Minor LB who was at UTEP.

The biggest areas of need are QB, OL, DL, LB, and DB. Agree with Globe that there should still be enough talent at RB and WR. The focus needs to be on finding a capable QB, shoring up the OL, and getting depth on defense. All those can be accomplished before signing day on 2/1.
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No clue who we'll land at QB, and hate to always be piling on the BGSU Athletic Dept, but that link Globe put above opened my eyes to something. I wouldn't even give it a thought because I couldn't possibly care less, but for the kids we're recruiting it might actually be a thing. Nebraska lists both the twitter and instagram handles for that Logan Smothers kid on their roster bio page.

BG does nothing of the sort.

Even if kids aren't future professional athletes building their brand and getting their name/personality out there is one of the great benefits of playing college sports. The dept should absolutely look at something like that and get it added to our roster pages.
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Globetrotter wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 1:22 am Lets say we land Logan Smothers
Terion Stewart comes back

QB1: JR Logan Smothers: https://huskers.com/sports/football/ros ... hers/44664
QB2: FR Lucian Anderson
RB1-RB5: Stewart, Patterson, Johnson, Keith, Mosley
WR: Hilaire?-Embry
WR: Ibrahim
WR: Osborne-Grguric
Slot WR/Wing Back: Keith
TE: Fanin
TE: Gazarek

that offense is fine.
Not with a hodge-podge offensive line.
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jpfalcon09 wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 8:59 am Offers in for Sacramento State DB Cameron Broussard, and Darryl Minor LB who was at UTEP.

The biggest areas of need are QB, OL, DL, LB, and DB. Agree with Globe that there should still be enough talent at RB and WR. The focus needs to be on finding a capable QB, shoring up the OL, and getting depth on defense. All those can be accomplished before signing day on 2/1.
WR has a lot of FR and unknowns...JUCO and an FCS xfer are the experienced guys augmenting the two (Osborne and Hillaire) guys that are proven...and Osborne and Hillaire are slot receivers.

I think Fannin will be the guy who lines up as an H back

RB is the one position that I have complete confidence in.
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Globetrotter wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 8:03 am
guest44 wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:37 am Let’s not say we get Logan Smothers. It’s got roughly a .01% chance. We haven’t gotten any quarterback we wanted not named Matt McDonald who nobody else wanted.
Because we already had Matt McDonald dummy
Is a personal attack necessary?
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