SL is so compassionate...

[roguewarrior]

When I see a BG story that interests me...I just pay them.

That "fair amount of transfers" thing kinda bugged me....it's more than that and a cause for concern for 2023

Im not concerned. Most weren't underclassmen who were part of the long term plan.

That is counter intuitive to the Claussen-Loeffler model of “getting old “ , wouldn’t you say? What is the point of trying to create veteran mature players to win championships, if you can’t find a way to hang on to them. To dismiss the losses is wrong.

[Flipper]

When I see a BG story that interests me...I just pay them.

That "fair amount of transfers" thing kinda bugged me....it's more than that and a cause for concern for 2023

Im not concerned. Most weren't underclassmen who were part of the long term plan.

So you're good with being worse than you should have been next year? Long term plan? What long term plan...what long term plan is SL following? He cycles kids in and out every year and has a different set of excuses ready to go for every failure.

I can't begin to express the disdain I have for him as the titular head of the largest athletic program on campus

[mbenecke]

I don’t love the transfers, but I also recognize that it’s just part of college sports now. Essentially every program is having a large amount of turnover because of the portal. If we develop guys into really good players, they’re going to leave. It doesn’t matter who our coach is when they can make boatloads of money through NIL at bigger programs. Just reality of modern college athletics, so it’s not really something we can get too upset over.

[Flipper]

They aren't having large turnovers at Toledo, OU, Miami, WMU etc... Kent lost their coach...they have about as many xfers as we do.

[mbenecke]

They aren't having large turnovers at Toledo, OU, Miami, WMU etc... Kent lost their coach...they have about as many xfers as we do.

BG has lost 10.

Toledo has lost 4. Ohio has lost 5. Miami has lost 13. WMU has lost 9. Akron has lost 15. Ball State has lost 4. Buffalo has lost 13. EMU has lost 7. CMU has lost 7. Kent State has lost 17. NIU has lost 12.

Hell, Alabama has 17 guys in the portal.

All of this is according to On3. I don’t know if they mean scholarships guys only or if they’re including walk-ons, but you can see it’s a problem everywhere. And there will be more transfers after spring ball, too. It’s just reality now. The culture of college football is that guys move around a ton more now.

[Flipper]

Bama always have kids in the portal...those 5*'s don't want to ride the bench...they just roll in a fresh crop of HS 5*

24/7 has Toledo with 2 outgoing, Miami with 5 outgoing and OU with 6

So there seems to be some confusion

[Globetrotter]

Bama always have kids in the portal...those 5*'s don't want to ride the bench...they just roll in a fresh crop of HS 5*

24/7 has Toledo with 2 outgoing, Miami with 5 outgoing and OU with 6

So there seems to be some confusion

Do you know the circumstances behind any of them? Did others have a chance to leave and said no? Did seniors just graduate and move on instead of enter the portal? You have very strong opinions for doing none of the research.

[Globetrotter]

247 has us with 9. Clemson has 11.

[Globetrotter]

Akron 7
Ball S 6
BG 9
Buffalo 11
CMU 7
EMU 8
K State 14
Miami 5
NIU 8
OU 6
Toledo 3
WMU 7

[Flipper]

We're closer to 15...Clemson is irrelevant...we are not on the same planet

[mbenecke]

I understand the frustration. I wish guys like Broden and Anderson were going to be on the team again next year. But expecting that just isn’t reality anymore.

[roguewarrior]

More important question is WHO they lost? Best players, or guys that weren’t going to play, failed out, kicked out. Every sort goes to the portal. We lost some key guys, that left because of the state of affairs.

[BGSU33]

More important question is WHO they lost? Best players, or guys that weren’t going to play, failed out, kicked out. Every sort goes to the portal. We lost some key guys, that left because of the state of affairs.

Exactly. The key is "WHO" we/they lost, not simply how many. You can't simply look at the total number of transfers and compare schools based on just that. It's nowhere near the core of the issue whatsoever. It's WHO the loses are/were. Every school is likely going to lose some guys buried in the depth chart or who are in over their head. Those loses aren't exactly a loss. It's when you're losing All-Conference players and/or starters that are the killers. Losing 5 BG guys like Ferguson, Broden, Anderson, Brown and Grant hurts our team. Losing 5 BG guys like Sheppard, Kinsey, Schiets, Rozanc and Konopka does not. For anyone who does not understand the difference, they do not understand the transfer portal.

[mbenecke]

More important question is WHO they lost? Best players, or guys that weren’t going to play, failed out, kicked out. Every sort goes to the portal. We lost some key guys, that left because of the state of affairs.

Exactly. The key is "WHO" we/they lost, not simply how many. You can't simply look at the total number of transfers and compare schools based on just that. It's nowhere near the core of the issue whatsoever. It's WHO the loses are/were. Every school is likely going to lose some guys buried in the depth chart or who are in over their head. Those loses aren't exactly a loss. It's when you're losing All-Conference players and/or starters that are the killers. Losing 5 BG guys like Ferguson, Broden, Anderson, Brown and Grant hurts our team. Losing 5 BG guys like Sheppard, Kinsey, Schiets, Rozanc and Konopka does not. For anyone who does not understand the difference, they do not understand the transfer portal.

Certainly I understand that you’d like to keep your contributors. But I just don’t know how realistic that is when we’re trying to fend off power 5 schools that can throw around big money. Even if we were winning a bunch of games, I still think guys would leave for the bigger school. I’m 24 and I like to think I’m able to understand how college kids think now, and I feel like no amount of winning would keep most kids here if they have a shot at a bigger school that might give them a better shot of getting to the NFL. It’s unfortunate, but I truly think that’s just reality here. We can’t expect all of our great players to stay when they have better opportunities elsewhere. I’m mostly just happily surprised when one does come back, such as Anders in this cycle.

[TommyG]

Many of the key guys that left will find themselves in bad situations when they realize they may be farther down on the depth chart than they thought. I think Rogue knows what’s going on. A lot of guys know Loeffler is over his head and they don’t really want to deal with that.

Another year of the Loeffler offense…I’m considering jumping in the portal too and following a different mid major.