Karl Brooks

[BillyLP]

All 32 Teams came to pro day to see Karl.

That's pretty cool. First time I can remember that happening, even when we've had some legit prospects in the past. Should be a solid recruiting point for Loeffler and staff, especially since they recruited him as a low 3-star LB and turned him into a top 100 prospect.

[Flipper]

According to the Blade...Brooks was battling a cold. He ran a 5.06 40, benched 225 28 times, ran a 4.85 sec shuttle a 7.65 3 cone drill and had a 26.5 inch vertical and an 8 ft 9 inch broad jump.

Measurables maybe aren't up there with the elites of the DL, but they were decent. I'll be shocked if he isn't drafted in the by the end of the 4th rd

[mbenecke]

His bench was very good. It would’ve been top 5 at the combine for his position.

He’s going to make a ton of money. Such an awesome story.

[BillyLP]

Impressive bench and shuttle number. If his 40 would have been below 5 seconds it would have raised more eyebrows, I think, even though it doesn't mean much. I think he'll be a 3rd round pick.

[hammb]

Pretty rough workout numbers, really. I still think he goes in the mid rounds, and hopefully a lot of that testing was negatively effected by his health, but man he has to be disappointed.

Although I'm not certain he was ever expected to test off the charts, his production is more based on motor and strength (not surprised he did well in bench) than it is explosion. Trapasso moved him to DT for RAS scoring and he still only scored 5.25. At DT he loses some points for being so light, but at DE his explosion/movement skills would rate on the bottom of the barrel range, so DT probably makes more sense.

THat's always been the issue with him. Is he a tweener that can't play any position or is he a tweener with a unique motor/skillset that allows him to be a great player. Fine line, but has to be pretty disappointed in that testing.

[jpfalcon09]

Pretty rough workout numbers, really. I still think he goes in the mid rounds, and hopefully a lot of that testing was negatively effected by his health, but man he has to be disappointed.

Although I'm not certain he was ever expected to test off the charts, his production is more based on motor and strength (not surprised he did well in bench) than it is explosion. Trapasso moved him to DT for RAS scoring and he still only scored 5.25. At DT he loses some points for being so light, but at DE his explosion/movement skills would rate on the bottom of the barrel range, so DT probably makes more sense.

THat's always been the issue with him. Is he a tweener that can't play any position or is he a tweener with a unique motor/skillset that allows him to be a great player. Fine line, but has to be pretty disappointed in that testing.

His game film should be used to evaluate his talents over his combine numbers. PFF has him ranked as the 58th best prospect in the draft. I'd be shocked if he goes lower than the 3rd round.

[hammb]

Pretty rough workout numbers, really. I still think he goes in the mid rounds, and hopefully a lot of that testing was negatively effected by his health, but man he has to be disappointed.

Although I'm not certain he was ever expected to test off the charts, his production is more based on motor and strength (not surprised he did well in bench) than it is explosion. Trapasso moved him to DT for RAS scoring and he still only scored 5.25. At DT he loses some points for being so light, but at DE his explosion/movement skills would rate on the bottom of the barrel range, so DT probably makes more sense.

THat's always been the issue with him. Is he a tweener that can't play any position or is he a tweener with a unique motor/skillset that allows him to be a great player. Fine line, but has to be pretty disappointed in that testing.

His game film should be used to evaluate his talents over his combine numbers. PFF has him ranked as the 58th best prospect in the draft. I'd be shocked if he goes lower than the 3rd round.

Game film matters, and should be more than 50% of the evaluation for sure; but athletic ability matters too. Everybody remembers the outliers, but statistically the long term productive players tend to be the best athletes. But there are plenty of outliers, and Brooks's place as a tweener was always going to make his RAS weird. Wasn't he mostly on the EDGE for us? He's not likely to ever be an NFL EDGE at 295+ anyhow.

What surprises me is that I still think the guy I saw looked like a better athlete than that would say. He looked really quick for a 295#, somewhat surprised the testing didn't show that. I'll be curious if he stays in the top 65 pick projections from guys like Brugler, Trapasso, and PFF once they start to account for testing.

I love the guy, he's a helluva story and I still would like to add him to my team. I'm with you mostly, but I'd go a bit further back. I think he could slide some, but still think he's a 4th rounder or better.

[jpfalcon09]

Pretty rough workout numbers, really. I still think he goes in the mid rounds, and hopefully a lot of that testing was negatively effected by his health, but man he has to be disappointed.

Although I'm not certain he was ever expected to test off the charts, his production is more based on motor and strength (not surprised he did well in bench) than it is explosion. Trapasso moved him to DT for RAS scoring and he still only scored 5.25. At DT he loses some points for being so light, but at DE his explosion/movement skills would rate on the bottom of the barrel range, so DT probably makes more sense.

THat's always been the issue with him. Is he a tweener that can't play any position or is he a tweener with a unique motor/skillset that allows him to be a great player. Fine line, but has to be pretty disappointed in that testing.

His game film should be used to evaluate his talents over his combine numbers. PFF has him ranked as the 58th best prospect in the draft. I'd be shocked if he goes lower than the 3rd round.

Game film matters, and should be more than 50% of the evaluation for sure; but athletic ability matters too. Everybody remembers the outliers, but statistically the long term productive players tend to be the best athletes. But there are plenty of outliers, and Brooks's place as a tweener was always going to make his RAS weird. Wasn't he mostly on the EDGE for us? He's not likely to ever be an NFL EDGE at 295+ anyhow.

What surprises me is that I still think the guy I saw looked like a better athlete than that would say. He looked really quick for a 295#, somewhat surprised the testing didn't show that. I'll be curious if he stays in the top 65 pick projections from guys like Brugler, Trapasso, and PFF once they start to account for testing.

I love the guy, he's a helluva story and I still would like to add him to my team. I'm with you mostly, but I'd go a bit further back. I think he could slide some, but still think he's a 4th rounder or better.

His numbers are disappointing, he'll probably end up being drafted by a team who can maximize his talents creatively scheme wise as opposed to lining him up at DT. He'll have a home somewhere for sure, but I do agree he might slip a bit.

[gspointer]

Dude was sick. Give it a break!

[Globetrotter]

Pretty rough workout numbers, really. I still think he goes in the mid rounds, and hopefully a lot of that testing was negatively effected by his health, but man he has to be disappointed.

Although I'm not certain he was ever expected to test off the charts, his production is more based on motor and strength (not surprised he did well in bench) than it is explosion. Trapasso moved him to DT for RAS scoring and he still only scored 5.25. At DT he loses some points for being so light, but at DE his explosion/movement skills would rate on the bottom of the barrel range, so DT probably makes more sense.

THat's always been the issue with him. Is he a tweener that can't play any position or is he a tweener with a unique motor/skillset that allows him to be a great player. Fine line, but has to be pretty disappointed in that testing.

His game film should be used to evaluate his talents over his combine numbers. PFF has him ranked as the 58th best prospect in the draft. I'd be shocked if he goes lower than the 3rd round.

Game film matters, and should be more than 50% of the evaluation for sure; but athletic ability matters too. Everybody remembers the outliers, but statistically the long term productive players tend to be the best athletes. But there are plenty of outliers, and Brooks's place as a tweener was always going to make his RAS weird. Wasn't he mostly on the EDGE for us? He's not likely to ever be an NFL EDGE at 295+ anyhow.

What surprises me is that I still think the guy I saw looked like a better athlete than that would say. He looked really quick for a 295#, somewhat surprised the testing didn't show that. I'll be curious if he stays in the top 65 pick projections from guys like Brugler, Trapasso, and PFF once they start to account for testing.

I love the guy, he's a helluva story and I still would like to add him to my team. I'm with you mostly, but I'd go a bit further back. I think he could slide some, but still think he's a 4th rounder or better.

He played mostly Over tackle or outside tackle in college but will be a rotational 3T in the pros.

[hammb]

Pretty rough workout numbers, really. I still think he goes in the mid rounds, and hopefully a lot of that testing was negatively effected by his health, but man he has to be disappointed.

Although I'm not certain he was ever expected to test off the charts, his production is more based on motor and strength (not surprised he did well in bench) than it is explosion. Trapasso moved him to DT for RAS scoring and he still only scored 5.25. At DT he loses some points for being so light, but at DE his explosion/movement skills would rate on the bottom of the barrel range, so DT probably makes more sense.

THat's always been the issue with him. Is he a tweener that can't play any position or is he a tweener with a unique motor/skillset that allows him to be a great player. Fine line, but has to be pretty disappointed in that testing.

His game film should be used to evaluate his talents over his combine numbers. PFF has him ranked as the 58th best prospect in the draft. I'd be shocked if he goes lower than the 3rd round.

Game film matters, and should be more than 50% of the evaluation for sure; but athletic ability matters too. Everybody remembers the outliers, but statistically the long term productive players tend to be the best athletes. But there are plenty of outliers, and Brooks's place as a tweener was always going to make his RAS weird. Wasn't he mostly on the EDGE for us? He's not likely to ever be an NFL EDGE at 295+ anyhow.

What surprises me is that I still think the guy I saw looked like a better athlete than that would say. He looked really quick for a 295#, somewhat surprised the testing didn't show that. I'll be curious if he stays in the top 65 pick projections from guys like Brugler, Trapasso, and PFF once they start to account for testing.

I love the guy, he's a helluva story and I still would like to add him to my team. I'm with you mostly, but I'd go a bit further back. I think he could slide some, but still think he's a 4th rounder or better.

He played mostly Over tackle or outside tackle in college but will be a rotational 3T in the pros.

That's where I expect him to land in the NFL as well.

And I think he can make a name for himself in that role. Interior pass rush is invaluable.

[jpfalcon09]

Karl was the first pick of the sixth round, going to Green Bay.