Any hopes of Detroit starts NOW with Ohio

Discussion of the Falcon football team.
User avatar
BGSU33
Peregrine
Peregrine
Posts: 10183
Joined: Fri Jul 23, 2004 10:29 am
Location: Boulder, CO

Re: Any hopes of Detroit starts NOW with Ohio

Post by BGSU33 »

kdog27 wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:48 pm For all your talking up of OU over many years on here their mac championship total remains the same. Zero. Solid program, not ever great. You’d think they have 5 Mac championships in 10 years the way you speak of them.
In the last decade, Ohio has either won the East (twice) or finished second (5 times) for a total of 7 first/second place finishes. In the 5 times that Ohio finished runner-up, 4 times the eventual winner of the East beat Ohio. The only exception was in 2018 when UB had a better final MAC record despite Ohio kicking the snot out of them 52-17. Ohio has never finished lower than 3rd place out of a 6-team division in any of those years, and one of those years (2020) included the Covid season where the MAC played an unbalanced number of games because of cancellations. If you remove the Covid year from consideration, Ohio has finished 1st or 2nd in the East in 7 of the last 9 seasons of full play. If that doesn't speak volumes about the success and importance in deciding the East and who goes to Detroit, then I don't know what does. They either go to the MACC, or the team that beats them does in almost every single case.

As for what East teams do once they get to Detroit, there has only been one East team that has won a MACC since BG last did in '15. That was Miami in '19. In fact, the West has won 12 of the last 17 times. But which East team has been to Detroit the most during that stretch? You guessed it - Ohio - a total of 5 times, which is 2 more than any other East squad. It all goes to show that what Clawson used to preach over a decade ago still very much applies. And this is why the Ohio game is the most important game in the East.
GO BG!!!
guest44
Peregrine
Peregrine
Posts: 3376
Joined: Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:27 pm

Re: Any hopes of Detroit starts NOW with Ohio

Post by guest44 »

I think it says that the divisions in MAC Football are pretty stupid. I also think it shows how bad BGSU has botched its' program since Clawson.
User avatar
kdog27
Peregrine
Peregrine
Posts: 7154
Joined: Fri Jul 23, 2004 1:35 pm
Location: Alabama

Re: Any hopes of Detroit starts NOW with Ohio

Post by kdog27 »

Yea like I said zero championships.
User avatar
mbenecke
Peregrine
Peregrine
Posts: 8378
Joined: Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:48 pm
Location: Napoleon, OH
Contact:

Re: Any hopes of Detroit starts NOW with Ohio

Post by mbenecke »

The line has moved from +8.5 to +13. Seems... worrisome.
BGSU '20
guest44
Peregrine
Peregrine
Posts: 3376
Joined: Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:27 pm

Re: Any hopes of Detroit starts NOW with Ohio

Post by guest44 »

The line has moved because the mighty MAC East Division runs through THE Ohio University. A program good enough to not fire the coach, but not good enough to have a coach poached or actually win the MAC. While the line move is largely based on the possibility of Bowling Green being on QB3 (we won’t rehash Loeffler’s inability to recruit or develop a qb) the oddsmakers know what Dave Clawson said a decade ago. The MAC East runs through Athens before it gets neutered in Detroit.
User avatar
Flipper
The Global Village Idiot
The Global Village Idiot
Posts: 18315
Joined: Fri Jul 23, 2004 1:01 am
Location: Ida Twp, MI

Re: Any hopes of Detroit starts NOW with Ohio

Post by Flipper »

Orth is a rarity in the Loeffler years...a back up QB who stayed more than a year
It's not the fall that hurts...it's when you hit the ground.
User avatar
Flipper
The Global Village Idiot
The Global Village Idiot
Posts: 18315
Joined: Fri Jul 23, 2004 1:01 am
Location: Ida Twp, MI

Re: Any hopes of Detroit starts NOW with Ohio

Post by Flipper »

In the new ESPN bottom 10...Buffalo is 2nd...the MAC itself is 6th
It's not the fall that hurts...it's when you hit the ground.
User avatar
kdog27
Peregrine
Peregrine
Posts: 7154
Joined: Fri Jul 23, 2004 1:35 pm
Location: Alabama

Re: Any hopes of Detroit starts NOW with Ohio

Post by kdog27 »

mbenecke wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 11:21 am The line has moved from +8.5 to +13. Seems... worrisome.
They read 33’s post!
User avatar
jpfalcon09
Peregrine
Peregrine
Posts: 8475
Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2005 4:32 pm
Location: Detroit Beach, MI

Re: Any hopes of Detroit starts NOW with Ohio

Post by jpfalcon09 »

mbenecke wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 11:21 am The line has moved from +8.5 to +13. Seems... worrisome.
Based on injuries. Doubt there's any insider info as the staff is pretty tightlipped about that stuff.
The longer the walk, the farther you crawl.
User avatar
Flipper
The Global Village Idiot
The Global Village Idiot
Posts: 18315
Joined: Fri Jul 23, 2004 1:01 am
Location: Ida Twp, MI

Re: Any hopes of Detroit starts NOW with Ohio

Post by Flipper »

Or thy listened to a SL press conference... :)
It's not the fall that hurts...it's when you hit the ground.
Bgsu2016
Fledgling
Fledgling
Posts: 434
Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:22 pm

Re: Any hopes of Detroit starts NOW with Ohio

Post by Bgsu2016 »

guest44 wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:18 pm The line has moved because the mighty MAC East Division runs through THE Ohio University. A program good enough to not fire the coach, but not good enough to have a coach poached or actually win the MAC. While the line move is largely based on the possibility of Bowling Green being on QB3 (we won’t rehash Loeffler’s inability to recruit or develop a qb) the oddsmakers know what Dave Clawson said a decade ago. The MAC East runs through Athens before it gets neutered in Detroit.
Relax, Ohio State would struggle with their 3rd string QB as well. Heck, they couldn't beat Michigan last year down to their 3rd string RB, let alone if the QB chart was beat down to that. The Cardale Jones story is 1 in a million
User avatar
mbenecke
Peregrine
Peregrine
Posts: 8378
Joined: Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:48 pm
Location: Napoleon, OH
Contact:

Re: Any hopes of Detroit starts NOW with Ohio

Post by mbenecke »

Bgsu2016 wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 9:13 am
guest44 wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:18 pm The line has moved because the mighty MAC East Division runs through THE Ohio University. A program good enough to not fire the coach, but not good enough to have a coach poached or actually win the MAC. While the line move is largely based on the possibility of Bowling Green being on QB3 (we won’t rehash Loeffler’s inability to recruit or develop a qb) the oddsmakers know what Dave Clawson said a decade ago. The MAC East runs through Athens before it gets neutered in Detroit.
Relax, Ohio State would struggle with their 3rd string QB as well. Heck, they couldn't beat Michigan last year down to their 3rd string RB, let alone if the QB chart was beat down to that. The Cardale Jones story is 1 in a million
It was actually their 4th or 5th string RB - he started the season as a linebacker. Lol
BGSU '20
User avatar
Flipper
The Global Village Idiot
The Global Village Idiot
Posts: 18315
Joined: Fri Jul 23, 2004 1:01 am
Location: Ida Twp, MI

Re: Any hopes of Detroit starts NOW with Ohio

Post by Flipper »

The inability to keep the QB room stocked further down the depth chart put him in a situation where he had to play a walk on with very little experience with the offense, let alone game experience. Might have looked better for us with a scholarship quality QB with a year or two in the system
It's not the fall that hurts...it's when you hit the ground.
User avatar
Falconfreak90
Rubber City Falcon
Rubber City Falcon
Posts: 18498
Joined: Fri Jul 23, 2004 9:28 am
Location: Green, OH
Contact:

Re: Any hopes of Detroit starts NOW with Ohio

Post by Falconfreak90 »

I'm taking BG 24-21 this weekend....I think our D is good enough to contain the OU offense. Obviously with our QB situation, that is a concern. But I feel like this the Marshall game from last year all over again.

BEAT OHIO
Michael W.
BGSU-12 TIME MAC CHAMPION
FALCON FOOTBALL ROCKS!
User avatar
Falconfreak90
Rubber City Falcon
Rubber City Falcon
Posts: 18498
Joined: Fri Jul 23, 2004 9:28 am
Location: Green, OH
Contact:

Re: Any hopes of Detroit starts NOW with Ohio

Post by Falconfreak90 »

kdog27 wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 9:12 pm Yea like I said zero championships.
This is unreal to me....OU has not won a MAC title since 1968, the year I was born. Always a bridesmaid, never the bride. Hell last year was the year to do it and they still pissed down their leg. This season, they have a dream schedule. They don't play back to back road games ALL season and have TWO byes. How did that happen? And they play 10 of 12 games on Saturdays....only 2 Mid week games? I thought the MAC wanted to showcase their "best" teams?
Michael W.
BGSU-12 TIME MAC CHAMPION
FALCON FOOTBALL ROCKS!
Post Reply