WMU (vs. 10/20, @10/21)

[Flipper]

I would think DVDM taking over direct supervision is a sign for the person in the dept tasked with doing that to move on

[guest44]

Basically DVDM will take on what he wasn’t doing in that role. He had a kid to watch play basketball which was of most importance. BGSU will likely just allow him to do less until retirement. That’s how this goes. Oversight of the men’s golf program seems appropriate.

[jpfalcon09]

Flip's assessment on the Elsasser aspect of this is pretty much accurate from multiple people I've spoken to. Would not be surprised to see him retire once Isaac graduates.

[jpfalcon09]

Elsasser and Eigner had no clue about “Rookie Day”. Both have kids firmly entrenched in BGSU athletics with one in the locker room. Piss poor leadership. Taking all the perks is the easy part. Leading is hard. It’s going to get harder when athletes have money on the table via NIL. That’s what so much of this is about. Hopefully, for the hockey program Elsasser is out mowing the intramural fields going forward.

BGSU should hire Barnes & Thornburg to do the Moosbrugger/Hughes era next. Subjects such as the baseball program, NIL policies, and all things related to Falcon Sports Properties.

Funny enough there was an NIL aspect to this whole mess confirmed from multiple people.

[guest44]

A significant NIL part to this.

[jpfalcon09]

There's a ton to unpack with all of this. Hopefully all the details see the light of day in some official capacity. I highly doubt that will happen. That report from Barnes & Thornburg is really damning, but also really poorly written. Briggs has a pretty scathing article in today's Blade and I could not agree with him more about the lack of transparency from the university in all this. The report is contradictory, confusing, and leaves more questions than answers. Ty's reinstatement is because they couldn't tie loose ends together, but there was an obvious and egregious lack of institutional control in all of this which needs to be adequately addressed. Typical toxic hockey culture stuff that was allowed to go on with people having a general awareness of it, and not really caring too much about it. I know how I would feel about the report if I were the parent of a recruit of BGSU hockey.

I like Ty as a person. Despite Swankler appearing to have ulterior motives, there was still a lack of urgency to sufficiently address his concerns. Unfortunately, there is a business aspect to all this, and in my opinion the program needs to be nuked after the season, along with accountability from within the athletic department. If BG is a B1G or SEC program, I'd wager the is the response is different and the public outrage would be much louder than social media and message board posts.

[pdt1081]

The next topic to speculate over is whether he ever suits up for Tech.

Having attended a university similar to Tech, is alcohol/underage was a problem for him here, he's not gonna survive week 1 there. It's an engineering school and all it does in the winter is snow.

[pdt1081]

There's a ton to unpack with all of this. Hopefully all the details see the light of day in some official capacity. I highly doubt that will happen. That report from Barnes & Thornburg is really damning, but also really poorly written. Briggs has a pretty scathing article in today's Blade and I could not agree with him more about the lack of transparency from the university in all this. The report is contradictory, confusing, and leaves more questions than answers. Ty's reinstatement is because they couldn't tie loose ends together, but there was an obvious and egregious lack of institutional control in all of this which needs to be adequately addressed. Typical toxic hockey culture stuff that was allowed to go on with people having a general awareness of it, and not really caring too much about it. I know how I would feel about the report if I were the parent of a recruit of BGSU hockey.

I like Ty as a person. Despite Swankler appearing to have ulterior motives, there was still a lack of urgency to sufficiently address his concerns. Unfortunately, there is a business aspect to all this, and in my opinion the program needs to be nuked after the season, along with accountability from within the athletic department. If BG is a B1G or SEC program, I'd wager the is the response is different and the public outrage would be much louder than social media and message board posts.

Reading through the report I couldn't help but think of a story told to me by Woody before he retired. Without naming names, back in the day the coaches would check the local on road trips before curfew. They never managed to catch any players in them, but they'd also send another staff member in first.

The accounts of when stuff was reported, kinda feel bad for Swankler. Kid's been bounced around city to city, following team rules to the point it's all he knows. Comes off as the tattletale type. If he was a cop, he'd give his own mother a ticket for Jay-walking.

[jpfalcon09]

There's a ton to unpack with all of this. Hopefully all the details see the light of day in some official capacity. I highly doubt that will happen. That report from Barnes & Thornburg is really damning, but also really poorly written. Briggs has a pretty scathing article in today's Blade and I could not agree with him more about the lack of transparency from the university in all this. The report is contradictory, confusing, and leaves more questions than answers. Ty's reinstatement is because they couldn't tie loose ends together, but there was an obvious and egregious lack of institutional control in all of this which needs to be adequately addressed. Typical toxic hockey culture stuff that was allowed to go on with people having a general awareness of it, and not really caring too much about it. I know how I would feel about the report if I were the parent of a recruit of BGSU hockey.

I like Ty as a person. Despite Swankler appearing to have ulterior motives, there was still a lack of urgency to sufficiently address his concerns. Unfortunately, there is a business aspect to all this, and in my opinion the program needs to be nuked after the season, along with accountability from within the athletic department. If BG is a B1G or SEC program, I'd wager the is the response is different and the public outrage would be much louder than social media and message board posts.

Reading through the report I couldn't help but think of a story told to me by Woody before he retired. Without naming names, back in the day the coaches would check the local on road trips before curfew. They never managed to catch any players in them, but they'd also send another staff member in first.

The accounts of when stuff was reported, kinda feel bad for Swankler. Kid's been bounced around city to city, following team rules to the point it's all he knows. Comes off as the tattletale type. If he was a cop, he'd give his own mother a ticket for Jay-walking.

Swankler also had an axe to grind. Was pissed he wasn't going to be named a captain. Told he needed to be a better teammate by the staff. Had a lucrative NIL deal squashed. I can understand his point of view of basically saying eff it when he could see the handwriting on the wall that nothing internally was going to be done on what he deemed to be an issue.

[TalonsUpPuckDown]

There's a ton to unpack with all of this. Hopefully all the details see the light of day in some official capacity. I highly doubt that will happen. That report from Barnes & Thornburg is really damning, but also really poorly written. Briggs has a pretty scathing article in today's Blade and I could not agree with him more about the lack of transparency from the university in all this. The report is contradictory, confusing, and leaves more questions than answers. Ty's reinstatement is because they couldn't tie loose ends together, but there was an obvious and egregious lack of institutional control in all of this which needs to be adequately addressed. Typical toxic hockey culture stuff that was allowed to go on with people having a general awareness of it, and not really caring too much about it. I know how I would feel about the report if I were the parent of a recruit of BGSU hockey.

I like Ty as a person. Despite Swankler appearing to have ulterior motives, there was still a lack of urgency to sufficiently address his concerns. Unfortunately, there is a business aspect to all this, and in my opinion the program needs to be nuked after the season, along with accountability from within the athletic department. If BG is a B1G or SEC program, I'd wager the is the response is different and the public outrage would be much louder than social media and message board posts.

Reading through the report I couldn't help but think of a story told to me by Woody before he retired. Without naming names, back in the day the coaches would check the local on road trips before curfew. They never managed to catch any players in them, but they'd also send another staff member in first.

The accounts of when stuff was reported, kinda feel bad for Swankler. Kid's been bounced around city to city, following team rules to the point it's all he knows. Comes off as the tattletale type. If he was a cop, he'd give his own mother a ticket for Jay-walking.

Swankler also had an axe to grind. Was pissed he wasn't going to be named a captain. Told he needed to be a better teammate by the staff. Had a lucrative NIL deal squashed. I can understand his point of view of basically saying eff it when he could see the handwriting on the wall that nothing internally was going to be done on what he deemed to be an issue.

I'm tracking with you on this piece but am struggling square it with the alleged thievery.

[pdt1081]

I'm tracking with you on this piece but am struggling square it with the alleged thievery.

There's a lot of redaction around the "Final Conclusions" heading. Paragraph or two beforehand there's something along the line of "this arose in the aftermath of [redacted]." I think there is a very large, key piece in that redaction that would tie a lot of things together.

[Critical Thinker]

Having attended a university similar to Tech, is alcohol/underage was a problem for him here, he's not gonna survive week 1 there. It's an engineering school and all it does in the winter is snow.

The male:female ratio of 80:20 won't help either.

[TalonsUpPuckDown]

Curtis is doing the coaches talk tonight in the lounge at 6:15.

[TommyG]

Curtis is doing the coaches talk tonight in the lounge at 6:15.

How to play lifeless hockey 101

[pdt1081]

Interesting lineup tonight. No Stoever, Wozney, or Pfoh. Obviously Scardina, Fyten, and Pasanen remain out as well.