@ Akron

[guest44]

Beginning to think this Simon thing might be short lived......going to have to pull up that list of desired coaches....Ricardo Greer didn't get a head job for what it's worth.

Which is it? Is Simon so good we need to continue to not want to hire Ricardo Greer? Or should Simon piss this season away on the fantasy you have of football players playing basketball?

Ricardo Greer will never coach BGSU and Todd Simon isn’t wasting his time on football players playing basketball.

[guest44]

That’s now 35 losses in the last 40 meetings vs Akron.

Let’s analyze those numbers from a BG perspective.
- Four different fired coaches
- Three different brain dead contract extensions for those fired coaches
- Two of the most incompetent AD’s in league history

Combine BG’s complete incompetence with Akron’s ability to retain high level coaching for most of 15 years, and it checks out.

Thankfully we only play Akron once this year.

[mbenecke]

For all the anger and frustration around here, we played a really good first half on the road with only 7 guys available. I think there are a lot of positives to take from that.

[Globetrotter]

Beginning to think this Simon thing might be short lived......going to have to pull up that list of desired coaches....Ricardo Greer didn't get a head job for what it's worth.

Which is it? Is Simon so good we need to continue to not want to hire Ricardo Greer? Or should Simon piss this season away on the fantasy you have of football players playing basketball?

Ricardo Greer will never coach BGSU and Todd Simon isn’t wasting his time on football players playing basketball.

I hope that one day you get the help you need.

[guest44]

I hope Ricardo Greer finally lands that head coaching job that’s been discussed for years on here. I also hope that school has a football program for him to recruit basketball players from.

[BleedOrange]

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I HATE using only a 7 person rotation. We have guys on the bench who are capable but aren't seeing the court. This abbreviated rotation reminds me of the Dakich days.

[guest44]

The available guys on the bench not playing aren’t ball handlers or big men who would spell the people playing 35 plus minutes. They are guys shooting 30% from the field and 20% from three and we have plenty of those. Injuries happen and unfortunately they are to the experienced players.

[Diemilkweed]

For all the anger and frustration around here, we played a really good first half on the road with only 7 guys available. I think there are a lot of positives to take from that.

WE even played a really good 5+ minutes of the second half before we stopped being able to hit shots.

And a few minutes later, we stopped being able to defend.

[BGFalconfromCincy]

That’s now 35 losses in the last 40 meetings vs Akron.

Let’s analyze those numbers from a BG perspective.
- Four different fired coaches
- Three different brain dead contract extensions for those fired coaches
- Two of the most incompetent AD’s in league history

Combine BG’s complete incompetence with Akron’s ability to retain high level coaching for most of 15 years, and it checks out.

Thankfully we only play Akron once this year.

Just waiting for someone to get mad that you only said two ADs, meaning you left out (presumably) Christopher

[hammb]

I didn't get to see any of this one...apparently Akron basketball isn't worth screentime in Cleveland sports bars. I was bummed about that.

I knew as the OOC schedule was playing out we were going to find some times that our short rotation was going to bite us in MAC play. Having only 7 guys you can trust to play is ROUGH. I have zero interest in playing 9-10 guys double digit minutes every night like Huger did. I have even less interest in throwing random end of bench/walk ons on the court every time we struggle to "find a spark". I have less interest still in recruiting football players or the like to join the team (why!? we have 12 scholarship players, several of whom never play. Zero chance the football team has players better than the guys we already don't put on the court). Still, playing only 7 is asking a TON of those guys. The Towns injury sucks, but I really think Simon should try to steal some minutes with Greer at the 4. That's not the best spot for him developmentally, and he'll struggle out there defensively, but It's just rough asking Agee & Spurgin to be the only guys that get PT over 6'5.

In the end though it looks like we competed pretty well on the road shorthanded. Akron played one guy 2mins, and other than that only went 8 deep. Simon won a ton of games going 8 deep at SUU. The best teams typically won't roll more than 8 guys, maybe 9, when it comes to important games. I'll take our shortened bench over what Huger did any day of the week.

[Globetrotter]

I didn't get to see any of this one...apparently Akron basketball isn't worth screentime in Cleveland sports bars. I was bummed about that.

I knew as the OOC schedule was playing out we were going to find some times that our short rotation was going to bite us in MAC play. Having only 7 guys you can trust to play is ROUGH. I have zero interest in playing 9-10 guys double digit minutes every night like Huger did. I have even less interest in throwing random end of bench/walk ons on the court every time we struggle to "find a spark". I have less interest still in recruiting football players or the like to join the team (why!? we have 12 scholarship players, several of whom never play. Zero chance the football team has players better than the guys we already don't put on the court). Still, playing only 7 is asking a TON of those guys. The Towns injury sucks, but I really think Simon should try to steal some minutes with Greer at the 4. That's not the best spot for him developmentally, and he'll struggle out there defensively, but It's just rough asking Agee & Spurgin to be the only guys that get PT over 6'5.

In the end though it looks like we competed pretty well on the road shorthanded. Akron played one guy 2mins, and other than that only went 8 deep. Simon won a ton of games going 8 deep at SUU. The best teams typically won't roll more than 8 guys, maybe 9, when it comes to important games. I'll take our shortened bench over what Huger did any day of the week.

I was mostly joking about the football thing in response to the person saying we had 4 players with season-ending injuries. If that's true we have 8 scholarship players available for the rest of the year. It's a fun thought experiment and Cole Magner balled out. (FWIW Darius Gray is the 5th best big on campus right now. Could play and put in quality minutes immediately. 6-9 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USSZdhQE8e8. The ex-basketball coach group showed interest in him. I have no expectation that he will play, but there aren't humans that size walking around campus because we don't have a men's volleyball team. )

I have said and agree that Greer should play PF although he is out of position. It will help him in the long run. Better than getting no minutes. Although, He might be one of the 4 hurt.

We got tired in the end. It doesn't do anyone any good to play everyone in the beginning and play well and then just have the air taken out of us.

[guest44]

My thought is that Edwards and Phillip give us better defense & rebounding if forced to play the 4 position, and given playing Akron and that size he decided to go with it.

I also believe the poor start vs Eastern forced a shorter bench than he probably wanted to play. We were playing catchup from the 12 minute mark of the 1st half on.

Ohio is the type of team our bigs should be able to stay out of foul trouble against. That’s a big should.

[hammb]

Yeah, if we truly have 4 guys that are injured, especially season ending, that changes a lot of our discourse. I know it was mentioned in a tweet or something, but since we have no actual coverage of this program I don't know that any of us truly know. Honestly your best bet of finding out is probably to tweet the AD or coach Simon and see if they answer.

Sad how little media give a damn about this program (largely because so few people do, I guess).

[BleedOrange]

I didn't get to see any of this one...apparently Akron basketball isn't worth screentime in Cleveland sports bars. I was bummed about that.

I knew as the OOC schedule was playing out we were going to find some times that our short rotation was going to bite us in MAC play. Having only 7 guys you can trust to play is ROUGH. I have zero interest in playing 9-10 guys double digit minutes every night like Huger did. I have even less interest in throwing random end of bench/walk ons on the court every time we struggle to "find a spark". I have less interest still in recruiting football players or the like to join the team (why!? we have 12 scholarship players, several of whom never play. Zero chance the football team has players better than the guys we already don't put on the court). Still, playing only 7 is asking a TON of those guys. The Towns injury sucks, but I really think Simon should try to steal some minutes with Greer at the 4. That's not the best spot for him developmentally, and he'll struggle out there defensively, but It's just rough asking Agee & Spurgin to be the only guys that get PT over 6'5.

In the end though it looks like we competed pretty well on the road shorthanded. Akron played one guy 2mins, and other than that only went 8 deep. Simon won a ton of games going 8 deep at SUU. The best teams typically won't roll more than 8 guys, maybe 9, when it comes to important games. I'll take our shortened bench over what Huger did any day of the week.

Ya can't develop a roster and your younger players with only a 7 man rotation. Guys rot, morale goes to hell, and players leave. That's what we had under Dakich, and look how that turned out.

[guest44]

I didn't get to see any of this one...apparently Akron basketball isn't worth screentime in Cleveland sports bars. I was bummed about that.

I knew as the OOC schedule was playing out we were going to find some times that our short rotation was going to bite us in MAC play. Having only 7 guys you can trust to play is ROUGH. I have zero interest in playing 9-10 guys double digit minutes every night like Huger did. I have even less interest in throwing random end of bench/walk ons on the court every time we struggle to "find a spark". I have less interest still in recruiting football players or the like to join the team (why!? we have 12 scholarship players, several of whom never play. Zero chance the football team has players better than the guys we already don't put on the court). Still, playing only 7 is asking a TON of those guys. The Towns injury sucks, but I really think Simon should try to steal some minutes with Greer at the 4. That's not the best spot for him developmentally, and he'll struggle out there defensively, but It's just rough asking Agee & Spurgin to be the only guys that get PT over 6'5.

In the end though it looks like we competed pretty well on the road shorthanded. Akron played one guy 2mins, and other than that only went 8 deep. Simon won a ton of games going 8 deep at SUU. The best teams typically won't roll more than 8 guys, maybe 9, when it comes to important games. I'll take our shortened bench over what Huger did any day of the week.

Ya can't develop a roster and your younger players with only a 7 man rotation. Guys rot, morale goes to hell, and players leave. That's what we had under Dakich, and look how that turned out.

Dakich was 15 years ago. The normal rotation would be 8-9. Is Greer the one you are so worried about developing? He could develop and leave. He was available as a incoming freshman well after Simon took over for a reason. If the players at his position were injured he would be playing. Do you want to try to win or want to pretend it's how it used to be? When guys leave you replace them with guys from the portal. That's college basketball. The morale of this team is the last of the issues. That's probably the biggest strength. If Greer comes in and makes the shots he takes, he will most certainly begin to play.