No depth = getting run out of the gym

[Diemilkweed]

I had a thought. Maybe our slow starts the last two games before Akron were kind of intentional. We were conserving stamina for the full game knowing we didn’t have enough bodies to play.

Akron, on the other hand, ran us out of the gym. They played fast and hard and intense right out of the gate, and we matched that. Until our legs died at about the 12 minute mark in the 2nd half. First ,our shots wouldn’t fall. Then our defense collapsed.

WE simply got gassed.

And I would expect every team in the league to try the same thing to us. Wear us out, beat us with depth.

WE need more bodies. Anybody healthy should be getting a few minutes in the first half no matter the situation.

[guest44]

Let’s bring back Elsasser. Let’s go find football and baseball players who can play 15 minutes a game and make sure we don’t qualify for the MAC Tournament again this year.

Let’s hope the league tries to do what Akron did. Have you watched many of them? Some don’t have 3 players who would play in Akron’s rotation let alone depth themselves.

BG lost to the best team in the MAC and led for nearly 30 minutes. The most promising part is we looked like we belonged and on the road. The depth will come back from injuries and the end of the bench can play against the bottom of the MAC.

[mbenecke]

I’m not overreacting to this game at all. Road game against the class of the MAC with only 7 bodies seemingly available.

We will figure it out and be fine. This is a multi-year project. It’s going to take time to figure out how to become the best program in the MAC - it doesn’t just happen overnight.

[Hdog]

I’m not overreacting to this game at all. Road game against the class of the MAC with only 7 bodies seemingly available.

We will figure it out and be fine. This is a multi-year project. It’s going to take time to figure out how to become the best program in the MAC - it doesn’t just happen overnight.

I agree with your take.

I just listened to the Jan 8 Falcon's Nest Coaches Show. Simon mentioned Felt is out for the year with "an ACL". He also said DJ Smith is out for "a while". Didn't elaborate any more. Towns is still in a boot as of Monday Jan 8th but my impression from Simon is that he is close. I think that means we won't see him this week. He said there are a few other "bumps and bruises" that other guys are working through. That doesn't sound like 4 guys out for the year.

As far as playing Greer, my take is he would be playing if he could help us. Maybe he isn't consistently showing what he needs to in practice to get on the floor? I'm not worried about it as I feel like developing the program as whole trumps any player.

I still expect us to win 12 games in conference and be dangerous by tourney time. That should be the goal. I don't think the league is that good

[hammb]

I’m not overreacting to this game at all. Road game against the class of the MAC with only 7 bodies seemingly available.

We will figure it out and be fine. This is a multi-year project. It’s going to take time to figure out how to become the best program in the MAC - it doesn’t just happen overnight.

I agree with your take.

I just listened to the Jan 8 Falcon's Nest Coaches Show. Simon mentioned Felt is out for the year with "an ACL". He also said DJ Smith is out for "a while". Didn't elaborate any more. Towns is still in a boot as of Monday Jan 8th but my impression from Simon is that he is close. I think that means we won't see him this week. He said there are a few other "bumps and bruises" that other guys are working through. That doesn't sound like 4 guys out for the year.

As far as playing Greer, my take is he would be playing if he could help us. Maybe he isn't consistently showing what he needs to in practice to get on the floor? I'm not worried about it as I feel like developing the program as whole trumps any player.

I still expect us to win 12 games in conference and be dangerous by tourney time. That should be the goal. I don't think the league is that good

Thanks for the insight, I don't usually catch the coach's show so glad to hear that it's not 4 guys out for the year. I kinda figured Felt was done for, he hasn't been in anything but street clothes since he got here. I honestly forgot all about Smith, just because his injury sort of coincided with Thomas getting healthy enough to start playing more. I'm not sure where he'll fit in the rotation anyhow, it's not like the PG spot is where we are really struggling with depth.

We're struggling with depth in the front court, which we KNEW would be a question all year only really dressing 3 post players. I don't ever count on anything from Redshirts, so Felt was never a guy I counted on anyhow.

I think Greer becomes "a thing" for a few reasons, none of which are really a justifiable reason to make sure he gets on the court.

* His HS highlights showed a talented player that we're all excited about
* He is tall, even though none of us think he's actually a post player
* He gave us some really good minutes when we were struggling to find energy against (checks notes) Ohio Dominican and Bellarmine?


If Greer starts seeing more playing time and proves capable of it, I don't mind. In my limited viewing of him he's talented. He's also not done much noteworthy in any games against MAC (or similar) caliber competition. I don't yet have a reason to doubt Simon's rotations, and when Greer has been on the court it's pretty obvious he's no post presence. If I were the coach I'd probably be using him at the 4 slot to steal some rest for Spurgin & Agee, but I don't see practice and it's very conceivable attempting to do that would get us destroyed in the paint so bad it's not worth the rest periods.

[BGSU33]

I’m not overreacting to this game at all. Road game against the class of the MAC with only 7 bodies seemingly available.

We will figure it out and be fine. This is a multi-year project. It’s going to take time to figure out how to become the best program in the MAC - it doesn’t just happen overnight.

I agree with your take.

I just listened to the Jan 8 Falcon's Nest Coaches Show. Simon mentioned Felt is out for the year with "an ACL". He also said DJ Smith is out for "a while". Didn't elaborate any more. Towns is still in a boot as of Monday Jan 8th but my impression from Simon is that he is close. I think that means we won't see him this week. He said there are a few other "bumps and bruises" that other guys are working through. That doesn't sound like 4 guys out for the year.

As far as playing Greer, my take is he would be playing if he could help us. Maybe he isn't consistently showing what he needs to in practice to get on the floor? I'm not worried about it as I feel like developing the program as whole trumps any player.

I still expect us to win 12 games in conference and be dangerous by tourney time. That should be the goal. I don't think the league is that good

Thanks for the update and passing this along. BG really needs to get Towns back from injury. We're essentially playing 7 guys with only two bigs and that recipe can only take us so far. It got exposed vs Akron when we ran into foul trouble with Agee, and our 5 starters are logging major minutes like they did vs Ohio. Our backcourt at least has a little flexibility, but ultimately we're going to need another guy up front, and that boils down to if Towns can play again this year or not. I love the effort and fight our guys have shown thus far. Really, it's been tremendous to have a record like we do at this point in the season. But if we hope to make it to Cleveland and make a run, we simply will run out of gas trying to win 3 games in 3 days with 7 guys.

[Globetrotter]

the NIU guys said that Smith and Felt are out for the year. Towns should be back soon. No word on McCombs.

Greer with 15 minutes is good. 9 man rotation is ok for sure but a bit scary knowing we might only have 10 healthy scholarship bodies.

[BGSU33]

the NIU guys said that Smith and Felt are out for the year. Towns should be back soon. No word on McCombs.

Greer with 15 minutes is good. 9 man rotation is ok for sure but a bit scary knowing we might only have 10 healthy scholarship bodies.

I very much appreciate you passing this info along. I really do. But I do find it frustrating we have to rely on finding out pertinent about our team/school from what others schools report like this instead of the sources that actually get paid to cover the BG programs. It never used to be this way, and when I say never, I mean not long ago - when BG had reporters who actually reported. Not just those who write the same bland articles and ask the same mundane questions to get the typical coach-speak answers for their articles. Look, I understand the complexity of discussing or revealing the health of a players (HIPPA). But is it too much to simply state and report whether a guy is expected back at some point, or if he's out for the year? That can be done without even saying what the reason is. We can clearly see we have a few guys wearing boots, so yeah, it's pretty obvious they have suffered anything from a sprain to a broke bone or a tendon tear. I get not wanting or not being able to say what actually happened. But it would be nice to actually know if we can expect a guy back or not. We're supposed to be/stay "invested" in these programs, from both an interest standpoint and a financial one. And yet, we seem to have to fish around more than ever to get simple answers to simple questions - in an era where communication has never been easier. I read our articles, watch the presser videos, watch or listen to our games, and follow the tweets with those who get paid to cover the team, etc. - and I often find out more in something posted on here like this from another affiliated school than I do from our own paid sources. Sure there are times where I can miss things, but when I see the same sort of things being asked by others with no answers, I'm know I'm not alone.

But anyway, thanks again for the info. I really hope Towns can return soon, I think he could really, really help us up front in a number of ways. And, that we can stay healthy the rest of the way. If Greer can continue to contribute, these two can be important factors in how far this team can go.

[Globetrotter]

FWIW I have asked bout Burwell and Patrykus and it seems like they are asking and being told vague answers or "to be determined"

[Bgsu2016]

I very much appreciate you passing this info along. I really do. But I do find it frustrating we have to rely on finding out pertinent about our team/school from what others schools report like this instead of the sources that actually get paid to cover the BG programs. It never used to be this way, and when I say never, I mean not long ago - when BG had reporters who actually reported. Not just those who write the same bland articles and ask the same mundane questions to get the typical coach-speak answers for their articles. Look, I understand the complexity of discussing or revealing the health of a players (HIPPA). But is it too much to simply state and report whether a guy is expected back at some point, or if he's out for the year? That can be done without even saying what the reason is. We can clearly see we have a few guys wearing boots, so yeah, it's pretty obvious they have suffered anything from a sprain to a broke bone or a tendon tear. I get not wanting or not being able to say what actually happened. But it would be nice to actually know if we can expect a guy back or not. We're supposed to be/stay "invested" in these programs, from both an interest standpoint and a financial one. And yet, we seem to have to fish around more than ever to get simple answers to simple questions - in an era where communication has never been easier. I read our articles, watch the presser videos, watch or listen to our games, and follow the tweets with those who get paid to cover the team, etc. - and I often find out more in something posted on here like this from another affiliated school than I do from our own paid sources. Sure there are times where I can miss things, but when I see the same sort of things being asked by others with no answers, I'm know I'm not alone.

But anyway, thanks again for the info. I really hope Towns can return soon, I think he could really, really help us up front in a number of ways. And, that we can stay healthy the rest of the way. If Greer can continue to contribute, these two can be important factors in how far this team can go.

Local newspapers have essentially died off, what do you expect for a school like Bowling Green?

[guest44]

The Sentinel struggles with basic spelling and sentence structure, and that is after the editing. If you like news 4 or 5 days after it happens, or gossip from inside the BGSU hockey equipment room, the Sentinel is still viable.

[hammb]

I share BGSU33's frustration with the lack of coverage, but I don't know what more we can really expect at this point. The better coverage you're talking about was from the Sentinel & Blade. Those papers are tiny shells of their former selves and in no way will ever again dedicate coverage to BGSU. I don't even know how the Sentinel even exists anymore, and the Blade will always have BG like 5-6th fiddle behind UT, OSU, UM, pro sports, and probably HS sports.

The only way to ever expect viable coverage of BG sports at this point is for the AD to join up with the Journalism dept and dedicate students to covering the beat like a traditional paper would. You'll obviously get the quality of journalism you should expect from a student, you'll turn over beat writers on a near yearly basis, but at least you should get SOMETHING. I think that's what the BGFalcon Media is trying to do, but I don't know if they have access to coaches to really make it what many of us want.

[mbenecke]

I miss when John Wagner and Thomas Schmeltz were covering the teams, because regardless of what you thought of them, we were at least getting real information from the department. Felt like that was the last era of both the Blade and ST covering the team.

Nick P did a really good job in his time at the Blade too, and I was sad to see him go.

[hammb]

I think that's what the BGFalcon Media is trying to do, but I don't know if they have access to coaches to really make it what many of us want.

Spoke to a contact over there and he's going to put a bug into the student reporters' ears about injury questions.

They're learning, to be expected.

[Matty B]

I know they still do the coaches radio shows on Mondays. Do they still take questions from the crowd? Wonder if there is an opportunity to get questions answered there.