Eigner Fired - Coaching Search Thread

[pdt1081]

I’m still surprised this happened. I guess BGSU is actually trying to change the culture. Give DVDM credit for that.
I’m guessing that DVDM wanted him gone in the Fall, but knew the pushback would be much more if done at that time. Instead, a final meltdown proved what we all kind of knew anyway and made this much easier. What a massive cleanup job DVDM has on his hands.
Let’s now cycle back to 2020 and ask Rodney Rogers what in the hell were you doing? Cut baseball, reinstated baseball, gave Hughes a promotion, and gave Moosbrugger a 4 year contract extension. That was a year of clueless and costly decision making. Next on the block is softball and possibly gymnastics. Moosbrugger (Hughes was calling some shots) has cemented his place as the worst AD in school history. A historic number of firings in a two year span.

The irony is, had Eigner not signed that one year extension, in exchange for taking a partial furlough, in 2020, he probably would have had a 2 or 3 year extension at the end of last season.

[guest44]

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I’m still surprised this happened. I guess BGSU is actually trying to change the culture. Give DVDM credit for that.
I’m guessing that DVDM wanted him gone in the Fall, but knew the pushback would be much more if done at that time. Instead, a final meltdown proved what we all kind of knew anyway and made this much easier. What a massive cleanup job DVDM has on his hands.
Let’s now cycle back to 2020 and ask Rodney Rogers what in the hell were you doing? Cut baseball, reinstated baseball, gave Hughes a promotion, and gave Moosbrugger a 4 year contract extension. That was a year of clueless and costly decision making. Next on the block is softball and possibly gymnastics. Moosbrugger (Hughes was calling some shots) has cemented his place as the worst AD in school history. A historic number of firings in a two year span.

The irony is, had Eigner not signed that one year extension, in exchange for taking a partial furlough, in 2020, he probably would have had a 2 or 3 year extension at the end of last season.
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I agree he would have gotten a multiple year extension but probably sooner than last year and given by the previous leadership. That’s what they did. Reckless pursuit of trying to make themselves look good.

[TalonsUpPuckDown]

After having had a night to digest this, some new thoughts popped into my head. Miami State will fire Bergeron in less than a week which means a Nacho HC spot opens up and we all know Nacho >> CCHA. So whatever hot shot coaches are out there will gravitate towards that opening with us being the door prize. While I like being in the CCHA, this is where the league becomes a drag on the program. We may not be able to get "our guy" if it's someone outside the traditional BG coaching tree. Am I off base here? Thankfully Miami flushed Mannino out the door with Rico.

[guest44]

After having had a night to digest this, some new thoughts popped into my head. Miami State will fire Bergeron in less than a week which means a Nacho HC spot opens up and we all know Nacho >> CCHA. So whatever hot shot coaches are out there will gravitate towards that opening with us being the door prize. While I like being in the CCHA, this is where the league becomes a drag on the program. We may not be able to get "our guy" if it's someone outside the traditional BG coaching tree. Am I off base here? Thankfully Miami flushed Mannino out the door with Rico.

Is this job the door prize? The league stinks. The fanbase cares way more than most and frankly has supported it even when it probably shouldn’t have. I’d argue it’s a great entry point for someone to flourish in their career. It’s not the same money as Miami but the entry point seems better.

[pdt1081]

After having had a night to digest this, some new thoughts popped into my head. Miami State will fire Bergeron in less than a week which means a Nacho HC spot opens up and we all know Nacho >> CCHA. So whatever hot shot coaches are out there will gravitate towards that opening with us being the door prize. While I like being in the CCHA, this is where the league becomes a drag on the program. We may not be able to get "our guy" if it's someone outside the traditional BG coaching tree. Am I off base here? Thankfully Miami flushed Mannino out the door with Rico.

Miami is more money, but ultimately only a 5 year stint. There's no path to success there.

I think the wildcard job right now is Lindenwood. I honestly would not be surprised if Eigner or one of the assistants end up there.

[jpfalcon09]

After having had a night to digest this, some new thoughts popped into my head. Miami State will fire Bergeron in less than a week which means a Nacho HC spot opens up and we all know Nacho >> CCHA. So whatever hot shot coaches are out there will gravitate towards that opening with us being the door prize. While I like being in the CCHA, this is where the league becomes a drag on the program. We may not be able to get "our guy" if it's someone outside the traditional BG coaching tree. Am I off base here? Thankfully Miami flushed Mannino out the door with Rico.

Miami is more money, but ultimately only a 5 year stint. There's no path to success there.

I think the wildcard job right now is Lindenwood. I honestly would not be surprised if Eigner or one of the assistants end up there.

I view BG & Miami as equal in respects to the work that needs to be done with their programs. Obvious there's more money available in Oxford, but the path to an NCAA berth is likely met with less resistance in the CCHA than the Nacho.

It'll never happen, but this would be the ideal opportunity for BG to go all in on hockey with the arena renovations beginning soon. Make the commitment and show you're serious about elevating this program back to relevance and wanting to compete for conference titles.

[Critical Thinker]

I view BG & Miami as equal in respects to the work that needs to be done with their programs. Obvious there's more money available in Oxford, but the path to an NCAA berth is likely met with less resistance in the CCHA than the Nacho.

It'll never happen, but this would be the ideal opportunity for BG to go all in on hockey with the arena renovations beginning soon. Make the commitment and show you're serious about elevating this program back to relevance and wanting to compete for conference titles.

I had the expectation Eigner would be competing for conference titles with our current resources when he took over from Berge. I don't see how more arena upgrades improves our situation.

[mbenecke]

Whoever the next hire is, they need to be someone that can compete for and win conference titles and semi-regularly have us in the NCAA tournament. The CCHA is extremely mediocre and doesn’t have a dominant program. There’s no reason we can’t fill that void with the right hire.

[maskedopining]

After having had a night to digest this, some new thoughts popped into my head. Miami State will fire Bergeron in less than a week which means a Nacho HC spot opens up and we all know Nacho >> CCHA. So whatever hot shot coaches are out there will gravitate towards that opening with us being the door prize. While I like being in the CCHA, this is where the league becomes a drag on the program. We may not be able to get "our guy" if it's someone outside the traditional BG coaching tree. Am I off base here? Thankfully Miami flushed Mannino out the door with Rico.

Miami is more money, but ultimately only a 5 year stint. There's no path to success there.

I think the wildcard job right now is Lindenwood. I honestly would not be surprised if Eigner or one of the assistants end up there.

I view BG & Miami as equal in respects to the work that needs to be done with their programs. Obvious there's more money available in Oxford, but the path to an NCAA berth is likely met with less resistance in the CCHA than the Nacho.

It'll never happen, but this would be the ideal opportunity for BG to go all in on hockey with the arena renovations beginning soon. Make the commitment and show you're serious about elevating this program back to relevance and wanting to compete for conference titles.

It’s too bad it won’t. Our athletic department’s seeming lack of interest in investing in the hockey program over the last 30 years is one of its biggest mysteries and failures.

It seems to me to be a prime example of the BGSU athletic department’s struggle and courage to admit what it is and isn’t.

I am sure the data shows somehow someway that football has always been an exponentially larger revenue producer, etc.

However, here you had a Nationally-recognized program that you just just took for granted, almost dropped and, in spite of all of that, still gets a lot of student support, has an active program alumni highly engaged in supporting it. This doesn’t even account for the fact that you don’t have to compete with a peer school in the nearest metro area like other sports that is surprisingly high interest in hockey.

Instead, we want to invest in sport that provides no opportunity to win anything, forces you to get pounded twice a year for a paycheck and play most of you home games on Tuesday and Wednesday nights in November.

I willingly admit that I am not the biggest follower of the hockey team since I graduated, but they were an annual NCAA tournament qualifier when I was in school and going to games were a really fun, memorable part of the campus experience. I remember people in my dorm that became huge fans of hockey who previously had never seen a game.

At a place like BGSU this should mean much, much more than it has. Why is BGSU not investing in something that produces this if they are going to use student fees to support athletics?

Leadership is more than just doing the easy thing and then crying poor and lamenting the “changing collegiate sports landscape”. Be creative, look at strengths and invest in them. It’s okay to invest in something different and build it, especially when the community supports it.

It just makes me sad. Even a minimal amount of visionary leadership through the years could have kept this program a regular NCAA tournament contender. I mean, if Miami and Western, who were the dregs of CCHA for most of the CCHA’s history, can compete, there’s no reason BG couldn’t have, correct?

[BillyLP]

Silly question perhaps, but what are the salaries of coaches in the AHL/ECHL/etc.? I imagine the next coach here will be making $200-300k a season and I always assumed that's significantly more than ECHL and maybe on par with or a little higher than AHL.

[TalonsUpPuckDown]

From Shap Shot Hockey in an article from 5 days ago:

College hockey coaches also make, on average, more than AHL and CHL counterparts.

According to a couple sources, the typical AHL coach makes $200,000 to $225,000 per season. A typical CHL coach, even the most veteran ones, are making close $250,000 Canadian per season — which is closer to $185,000 in USD.

https://www.shapshotshockey.com/p/its-a ... -a-college

[TalonsUpPuckDown]

Three names I haven't seen raised before.

https://sportsaroundthelakes.wordpress. ... ty-eigner/

[pdt1081]

Three names I haven't seen raised before.

https://sportsaroundthelakes.wordpress. ... ty-eigner/

There's a reason you haven't seen those names raised anywhere else. I read that article when he posted it yesterday and it still gives me a headache trying to read it.

Let's not forget who was just on campus. He's only been retired 2 years. I bet he still has a list in his pocket. I'd look to see who BC was interested in 2 years ago.

[jpfalcon09]

Mike McMahon posted this evening that BG has contracted with CSA to conduct the search. They were used to hire DVDM, and I believe also used to hire Todd Simon and Fred Chmiel.

The university is seeking a candidate with prior collegiate head coaching experience.

IMO, the school better be willing to pay more than the $225K to Eigner if they want that.

[mbenecke]

If we could pull someone like an Eric Lang from AIC, I would be thrilled.