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Re: Offseason 2024

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TalonsUpPuckDown wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 3:27 pm
Schadenfreude wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 3:05 pm
TalonsUpPuckDown wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 12:02 pm They want to make Augustana happy so they don't leave in the future
Where would they go?
Summit? I don’t know, nothing about this move makes sense to me.
For a league with Bemidji State and other Minnesota schools, I can see the logic of Augustana. They seem funded well enough.

It's obviously hard on us given that we aren't in the center of this league the way we are in the MAC. I don't know of a solution unless Miami ever decides to change leagues, something that may well never happen.
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Re: Offseason 2024

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Schadenfreude wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 3:42 pm
TalonsUpPuckDown wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 3:27 pm
Schadenfreude wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 3:05 pm
TalonsUpPuckDown wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 12:02 pm They want to make Augustana happy so they don't leave in the future
Where would they go?
Summit? I don’t know, nothing about this move makes sense to me.
For a league with Bemidji State and other Minnesota schools, I can see the logic of Augustana. They seem funded well enough.

It's obviously hard on us given that we aren't in the center of this league the way we are in the MAC. I don't know of a solution unless Miami ever decides to change leagues, something that may well never happen.
I get your point and it kinda makes sense, but why the big rush right now? Whatever, Lucia doesn’t ask for my opinions.
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Augie is immediately eligible for the NCAA tourney and they have a brand new rink. Both of those didn't apply to St. Thomas. Lucia probably sees them being a major player at some point since the financial support is there.
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Re: Offseason 2024

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Official updates to the schedule have been announced.

Thu 10/10 vs. Robert Morris (exhibition)
Sun 10/13 vs. Simon Frasier (exhibition)
Thu 10/17 @ WMU
Fri 2/14 @ USNTDP (exhibition)
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mbenecke wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 2:21 pm Official updates to the schedule have been announced.

Thu 10/10 vs. Robert Morris (exhibition)
Sun 10/13 vs. Simon Frasier (exhibition)
Thu 10/17 @ WMU
Fri 2/14 @ USNTDP (exhibition)
I'm confused by the 3 exhibitions..... unless it's allowed due to only have 33 games.
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Re: Offseason 2024

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I just noticed we have back-to-back away games in Kalamazoo on Thur then in Rochester on Sat with only one day in between. I'm guessing they leave from K'zoo straight for Rochester? That's a 7.5-8h drive with an arrival after the sun is up.
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TalonsUpPuckDown wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 10:26 am I just noticed we have back-to-back away games in Kalamazoo on Thur then in Rochester on Sat with only one day in between. I'm guessing they leave from K'zoo straight for Rochester? That's a 7.5-8h drive with an arrival after the sun is up.
6ish hour drive from BG to Rochester by car. Really no reason to leave BG before 8AM day of. An hour break halfway there still puts arrival at 3PM-ish. Don't get to the arena until 5PM. Could almost do a morning skate in BG before leaving.
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Re: Offseason 2024

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Late addition to the roster, but Matvei Kobanov comes over from Northern Michigan through the transfer portal. As a true freshman forward at NMU last year, he had 4 goals and 5 assists. 5’11, 180 from Russia.
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Re: Offseason 2024

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If my math is right, we have 19 forwards this year?

Owen Ozar
Ethan Scardina
Seth Fyten
Ville Immonen
Jackson Niedermayer
Brayden Krieger
Ryan O'Hara
Spencer Schneider
Brett Pfoh
Jaden Grant
Quinn Emerson
Ben Doran
Brandon Santa Juana
Brody Waters
Adam Schankula
Matvei Kabanov
Johannes Løkkeberg
Michael Hagen-Moe
Max Martin
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TalonsUpPuckDown wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 8:00 am If my math is right, we have 19 forwards this year?

Owen Ozar
Ethan Scardina
Seth Fyten
Ville Immonen
Jackson Niedermayer
Brayden Krieger
Ryan O'Hara
Spencer Schneider
Brett Pfoh
Jaden Grant
Quinn Emerson
Ben Doran
Brandon Santa Juana
Brody Waters
Adam Schankula
Matvei Kabanov
Johannes Løkkeberg
Michael Hagen-Moe
Max Martin
Looks like a lot of competition and the ability to have fresh legs every night. Can almost run two different teams for a weekend series.
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Re: Offseason 2024

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Starting 24-25 season, hockey scholarship limit is increased from the current 18 to 26. In doing so, NCAA has set a maximum roster size at 26. A roster limit like that this past season would have seen BG playing with a short bench multiple times due to injuries.
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Re: Offseason 2024

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My understanding is the increased scholarships and max roster sizes are governed by an athletic department "all in" decision across all sports. Meaning, a school can't pick and choose which sports to max out on (yeah, I know, bad grammar). It's either all sports or you keep to the status quo. The implication for us as a MAC and CCHA member is pretty strategic. If ever we needed the steady, guiding hand of Kit Hughes, now would be the time.

I know McMahon is supposed to come out with some analysis on the topic but I don't know if he's published anything yet.
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Re: Offseason 2024

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TalonsUpPuckDown wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 4:07 pm My understanding is the increased scholarships and max roster sizes are governed by an athletic department "all in" decision across all sports. Meaning, a school can't pick and choose which sports to max out on (yeah, I know, bad grammar). It's either all sports or you keep to the status quo. The implication for us as a MAC and CCHA member is pretty strategic. If ever we needed the steady, guiding hand of Kit Hughes, now would be the time.

I know McMahon is supposed to come out with some analysis on the topic but I don't know if he's published anything yet.
It sounds like the roster limits are limits, no matter the scholarships offered. You can stick with 18, but can't have more than 26 roster spots.
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Re: Offseason 2024

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pdt1081 wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 4:59 pm
TalonsUpPuckDown wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 4:07 pm My understanding is the increased scholarships and max roster sizes are governed by an athletic department "all in" decision across all sports. Meaning, a school can't pick and choose which sports to max out on (yeah, I know, bad grammar). It's either all sports or you keep to the status quo. The implication for us as a MAC and CCHA member is pretty strategic. If ever we needed the steady, guiding hand of Kit Hughes, now would be the time.

I know McMahon is supposed to come out with some analysis on the topic but I don't know if he's published anything yet.
It sounds like the roster limits are limits, no matter the scholarships offered. You can stick with 18, but can't have more than 26 roster spots.
I’m not sure about any of this. You may be right that it’s a hard number regardless. I did find this but after reading it a few times I’m still not sure.
Those that are not defendants in the settlement case — schools and conferences in the Group of Five, FCS and non-football playing Division I programs — are bound by the roster limits, reporting system and enforcement mechanism only if they choose to share revenue with athletes. They can opt out of the new model if they decline to share revenue.[\quote]
I read this as both a hard limit and business as usual. However, if we go the pay route it’s definitely a hard number.
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Re: Offseason 2024

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From a McMahon tweet:
After reading (almost all) of the 333-page settlement, I go into how the roster limits break down. There's two options.

1) If an athletic department opts out of the House settlement, there is no roster cap, they stay at 18 scholarships and no revenue sharing.

2) If an athletic department opts-in, then college hockey teams can award up to 26 scholarships, there is a 26-play roster cap, and teams can revenue share (but they don't have to). The revenue sharing is up to each school's discretion.
https://x.com/MikeMcMahonCHN/status/1818303124701949991

So after reading this it appears the decision is at the department level and would apply to all sports, men's and women's. If we opted out the roster limit wouldn't apply.
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