vs. Old Dominion (9/28)

[hammb]

Did t get to see too much of this one but when I did see glimpses early and late our defense just didn't look capable of controlling the LoS even as well as we did against PSU and a&m. That's just disappointing because it almost has to come down to an effort/want to thing..

This was exactly what I feared. I give props for competing in those games that we weren't expected to but losing close is not necessarily close to winning. I still don't trust Loeffler as a game day coach, like at all. Nor do I trust him to consistently have his team showing up ready to play. The GaTechs, the Minnesota's, the UTs...those are great unexpected wins from time to time, but you have to also show up ready to play the lesser teams on your schedule.

The good news is the real goal is still winning the MAC. Losing this one doesn't affect that anymore than losing to PSU did. Maybe it'll be a lesson that they can't take anyone for granted. But these are exactly the sort performances that result in 20pt MAC losses every year. It has to stop.

[TommyG]

The NIU, UT, Central, and Miami games will be the tests…could win all 4 or lose all 4….those games will determine the team’s year. Interesting to see how it will go.

[Bgsu2016]

Did t get to see too much of this one but when I did see glimpses early and late our defense just didn't look capable of controlling the LoS even as well as we did against PSU and a&m. That's just disappointing because it almost has to come down to an effort/want to thing..

This was exactly what I feared. I give props for competing in those games that we weren't expected to but losing close is not necessarily close to winning. I still don't trust Loeffler as a game day coach, like at all. Nor do I trust him to consistently have his team showing up ready to play. The GaTechs, the Minnesota's, the UTs...those are great unexpected wins from time to time, but you have to also show up ready to play the lesser teams on your schedule.

The good news is the real goal is still winning the MAC. Losing this one doesn't affect that anymore than losing to PSU did. Maybe it'll be a lesson that they can't take anyone for granted. But these are exactly the sort performances that result in 20pt MAC losses every year. It has to stop.

Very well said. The kids seem well coached going into the game, the use of timeouts and in game play calling is just bizarre. On their long TD we went with a Cover 0 at the opponents 25? Why would you ever even think about that? In my opinion he lost his job with that loss

[Falconwriter]

Did t get to see too much of this one but when I did see glimpses early and late our defense just didn't look capable of controlling the LoS even as well as we did against PSU and a&m. That's just disappointing because it almost has to come down to an effort/want to thing..

This was exactly what I feared. I give props for competing in those games that we weren't expected to but losing close is not necessarily close to winning. I still don't trust Loeffler as a game day coach, like at all. Nor do I trust him to consistently have his team showing up ready to play. The GaTechs, the Minnesota's, the UTs...those are great unexpected wins from time to time, but you have to also show up ready to play the lesser teams on your schedule.

The good news is the real goal is still winning the MAC. Losing this one doesn't affect that anymore than losing to PSU did. Maybe it'll be a lesson that they can't take anyone for granted. But these are exactly the sort performances that result in 20pt MAC losses every year. It has to stop.

Very well said. The kids seem well coached going into the game, the use of timeouts and in game play calling is just bizarre. On their long TD we went with a Cover 0 at the opponents 25? Why would you ever even think about that? In my opinion he lost his job with that loss

This is exactly who he is. He was a good hire to get the program back to an even footing -- but his ceiling has been reached. Hell, his ceiling was probably reached two years ago. These types of losses that shouldn't happen have been a regular thing with SL. He lost to Eastern Kentucky and Akron at home in consecutive seasons, where like yesterday, it seemed the team simply was not ready to play. To have that happen once is a hiccup, when it has happened 3 of the past 4 seasons -- it's a pattern and a red flag.

[kdog27]

It’s a lot of the same ole story. Program has no issues getting up for and focusing on brand name teams. Struggle to do any of that with our peers. OD better than their record but this is a game that has to be won at home for me to consider SL anything more than average. I could live with cute play calling in the last 2 games because those aren’t games anyone really expects much but to look like that after showing so much potential is pretty sucky.

[Flipper]

Right now..6-2 in the MAC seems like the best outcome (assuming losses to NIU and Toledo) and maybe another trip to the Detroit whatever it is this year bowl..

Will that be good enough?

[mbenecke]

Right now..6-2 in the MAC seems like the best outcome (assuming losses to NIU and Toledo) and maybe another trip to the Detroit whatever it is this year bowl..

Will that be good enough?

I wouldn’t guarantee anything either way. But assuming an NIU loss might be a bit pre-mature. They lost to Buffalo last week.

ESPN’s FPI likes us to go 7-1 in the MAC, which would mean 8-4 overall and almost certainly being in Detroit for the MAC title. Let’s see what happens. I think we would be crazy to give up and fire a guy who has absolutely turned the program around. Give the season a chance to develop.

[kdog27]

He’s being judged by mike jinks standards still. Dude been gone forever. 6-7 and 7-6 is an improvement, yes but only because the bar he inherited was an all time low. BG football should have higher expectations than .500 football. 6-2 gets him another 7-5 season with likely another bowl loss as history shows we don’t win bowl games making him 7-6 again.

I will be impressed if he can go 7-1 the rest of the way. History again shows they will lose games they shouldn’t. Given track records of him as a coach I figure 5-3 or worse is more likely than 7-1

[Flipper]

Right now..6-2 in the MAC seems like the best outcome (assuming losses to NIU and Toledo) and maybe another trip to the Detroit whatever it is this year bowl..

Will that be good enough?

I wouldn’t guarantee anything either way. But assuming an NIU loss might be a bit pre-mature. They lost to Buffalo last week.

ESPN’s FPI likes us to go 7-1 in the MAC, which would mean 8-4 overall and almost certainly being in Detroit for the MAC title. Let’s see what happens. I think we would be crazy to give up and fire a guy who has absolutely turned the program around. Give the season a chance to develop.

I did see that...preseason I had us losing to them...paying way more attention to baseball right now (Tigers!!) Still think we don't do any better that 6-2 and that might be pushing it as the high water mark under Scot has been 5-3.

I feel pretty confident about Akron though

[Bgsu2016]

I wouldn’t guarantee anything either way. But assuming an NIU loss might be a bit pre-mature. They lost to Buffalo last week.

ESPN’s FPI likes us to go 7-1 in the MAC, which would mean 8-4 overall and almost certainly being in Detroit for the MAC title. Let’s see what happens. I think we would be crazy to give up and fire a guy who has absolutely turned the program around. Give the season a chance to develop.

Off yesterday’s game I don’t see this being anything other than a 7-5 season. I don’t think that’ll fly with this AD, especially considering the talent here.

[Hammer]

The SL experiment is over. Maybe we will never have the funds to be competitive or hire a good coach. Maybe this is the ceiling for us but it’s time to at least try another coach. The simple fact that so many time outs have to be used just to get a play in should tell you all you need to know about SL.

With all that being said I have no idea how we kept Fannin on this team. That kid is so much fun to watch. I will tune in just to see what he does each week.

[Falconfreak90]

We should have not lost this game...the time management continues to be a head scratcher at times.

The OL was weak Saturday...I counted at least 4 times Da Bully was tackled in the backfield. Worst game of the year so far for the OL. The D didn't step up when we really needed it. ODU has talent and is a solid team but they were down to their 3rd string QB , too. ugh.

We better take it out on Akron this week. Maybe we have reached the ceiling with Coach Loeffler. We played so well the first three games but how are you not ready to take on the world after those games with a great crowd on HC? Every damn time I think we've turned the corner with SL, a game like this happens. It is maddening....Sat was a very disappointing ending.

[kdog27]

Every damn time I think we've turned the corner with SL, a game like this happens. It is maddening....Sat was a very disappointing ending.

Yes sir. There it is.

[jpfalcon09]

We should have not lost this game...the time management continues to be a head scratcher at times.

The OL was weak Saturday...I counted at least 4 times Da Bully was tackled in the backfield. Worst game of the year so far for the OL. The D didn't step up when we really needed it. ODU has talent and is a solid team but they were down to their 3rd string QB , too. ugh.

We better take it out on Akron this week. Maybe we have reached the ceiling with Coach Loeffler. We played so well the first three games but how are you not ready to take on the world after those games with a great crowd on HC? Every damn time I think we've turned the corner with SL, a game like this happens. It is maddening....Sat was a very disappointing ending.

Game was lost on two plays - the OPI on the Fannin TD in the 2nd quarter and the interception. 14-point swing on both plays.

What's disappointing is we had thought the Jekyll & Hyde stuff was over and yet here we are again. 6-6, 7-5 should not be the expectation with this program any longer.

[Falconfreak90]

We should have not lost this game...the time management continues to be a head scratcher at times.

The OL was weak Saturday...I counted at least 4 times Da Bully was tackled in the backfield. Worst game of the year so far for the OL. The D didn't step up when we really needed it. ODU has talent and is a solid team but they were down to their 3rd string QB , too. ugh.

We better take it out on Akron this week. Maybe we have reached the ceiling with Coach Loeffler. We played so well the first three games but how are you not ready to take on the world after those games with a great crowd on HC? Every damn time I think we've turned the corner with SL, a game like this happens. It is maddening....Sat was a very disappointing ending.

Game was lost on two plays - the OPI on the Fannin TD in the 2nd quarter and the interception. 14-point swing on both plays.

What's disappointing is we had thought the Jekyll & Hyde stuff was over and yet here we are again. 6-6, 7-5 should not be the expectation with this program any longer.

100% agree. Esp that INT...ball should have never been thrown. What was most disappointing was having a 4 pt lead twice in the 4th and not getting the stops needed. On the go ahead drive for ODU, we had them in a 4th and 7 or so and gave up a 15 yard pass play.