Jim McElwain or Scot Loeffler

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I don’t think BG could afford what McElwain was asking for. That being said this was a hire you couldn’t miss on and Moosbrugger struck out big time. Guy shouldn’t be making the next hire.
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Couldn't afford McElwain? Fair enough. Vince Kehres would have taken it for less than 500K
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guest44 wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 12:23 pm Couldn't afford McElwain? Fair enough. Vince Kehres would have taken it for less than 500K
Kehres would have been just as risky IMO. D3 to FBS is a huge jump. Leipold is probably the only exception. Vince was smart to take the DC job at Toledo and get his feet wet in FBS.
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guest44 wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 6:03 am Moose and Kingston Jr. fired Mike Jinks on October 14th, 2018. Fired him in season to get a jump start on finding his replacement. Jim McElwain was interested and basically available.

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Moose and Kingston Jr. totally botched this hire.
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Scot Loeffler is 24-39 as a head coach. Scot Loeffler is 0-2 in bowl games. The standards are so low you went from defending weeknight MAC games on Facebook to s**t talking about a 24-39 coach?
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McElwain was good immediately at CMU, and they have fallen off a cliff their last 3 years. He wouldn't have built a long-term winner here. Not that Scot has either, but I will take steady improvement over striking while the iron is lukewarm and having the program in bad shape for the next guy.

Very funny to bring up a 3 year old thread, though. I love the bickering on here sometimes.
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Agree, MB. We complain (rightly so) about Loeffler being late to the NIL/Portal party, but he beat out McElwain by a mile. As sure as I say this, CMU will win by 50, but I know the folks in Mt. Pleasant aren't super happy with the last few years.
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Imagine the celebration in 2034 when BGSU beats Robert Morris in conference and Loeffler gets to .500. I hope he pulls up this thread if we are both still alive.
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Neither one has been a success in the MAC...arguing that our coach sucks less than their coach is a sure sign of a moribund program
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Flipper wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 1:12 pm Neither one has been a success in the MAC...arguing that our coach sucks less than their coach is a sure sign of a moribund program
It's also the tiniest hill to die on.
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jpfalcon09 wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 8:41 am
Flipper wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 1:12 pm Neither one has been a success in the MAC...arguing that our coach sucks less than their coach is a sure sign of a moribund program
It's also the tiniest hill to die on.
Speaking of hills, I've been meaning to ask people this - what was the hill behind the Doyt/at the golf course called when you were in school? I had always heard it referred to as Bill's Hill, but I've been seeing recent posts calling it Mt. Jerome, and I need answers. :lol:
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I've only ever heard it referred to as Bill's Hill, but I have no idea on the origins of that name.

It's most famous moment was the 2003 UT game when some very eloquent, (probably a Creative Literature major), etched a message in the snow about our opponent that day.
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mbenecke wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 9:13 am

Speaking of hills, I've been meaning to ask people this - what was the hill behind the Doyt/at the golf course called when you were in school? I had always heard it referred to as Bill's Hill, but I've been seeing recent posts calling it Mt. Jerome, and I need answers. :lol:
I've ever only heard it called "Creason Hill."
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Beaker wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 9:25 am I've only ever heard it referred to as Bill's Hill, but I have no idea on the origins of that name.

It's most famous moment was the 2003 UT game when some very eloquent, (probably a Creative Literature major), etched a message in the snow about our opponent that day.
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It was Bill’s Hill back in the 80’s.
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