vs. Miami (11/29)

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kdog27 wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 4:20 pm This is another 7-6 season because as I have said before I’m going assume a bowl loss based on the last 20 years of history. So 6-7, 7-6 and 7-6. Treading water now, and unless there are some great additions in the portal I doubt highly they win 6 conference games next year.

I have seen enough to know we have seen his ceiling but the path of least resistance for the athletic department is to extend him so that’s what they will do.
He'll be Chris Creighton. Do enough to keep his job, but will never quite take the next step. I wouldn't say it's the path of least resistance but more of the devil you know vs. the devil you don't.
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At this point I'd rather take a chance for greatness than settle for mediocrity
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It's BG; if you have a coach for 4+ yrs, he sucks.

But the good ol boys love him. Hmmm...wonder why that could be
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The hard part is that he’s not terrible, so getting rid of him is a hard sell. However, he isn’t great, so keeping him is embracing mediocrity. It’s a lose-lose.
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I honestly don’t know if he’s a terrible coach as much as he is stubborn. He’s never had a great qb or O line and his style of offense has to have both. He’s too stubborn to make changes based on the roster and continues to stick square pegs in to round holes. Probably the worst attributes of his teams are inconsistent effort but that is happening all around the country. Heck, even a team like Georgia has rarely had consistent effort this year.
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Tough L but I have to give it up to SL for their improvement this year in MAC play. At the end of the day the weather probably did us in, we could barely catch the ball in the yard with that level of wind and cold let alone in a football game. Absolutely neutered the offense
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Obviously the offensive performance wasn’t very good. The key to the game was Miami not being afraid to push the ball down the field in the air. It cost them 2 picks, but burned the BG defense multiple times. This defense is built on being aggressive at the line of scrimmage and works against MAC QBs who can’t pass. Gabbert wasn’t afraid to take shots and BG wasn’t ready for it.

We took Stewart out of the game too early as well. He should’ve been more involved even down. It was a long game and with the weather they should’ve gotten him more opportunities.
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Season ends with a thud...should have given to the ball to Stewart more. Miami is good but we didn't match their intensity.
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hammb - your comment on why the good ole boys like Loeffler intrigued me, what does that actually mean? I’d love some inside scoop!

As for Loeffler, I have supported him, he took over the program at a time it was the worst in its history and made a competitive team for the last couple of years with some incredible wins vs. TSUN and some BiG wins against the Big Ten and the ACC and almost had a historic one this year. However, it has taken a long time to get to the top quartile of the MAC but he got us there. I fear next year a new rebuild begins, NIL has made college football incredibly hard for head coaches and so many programs are irrelevant outside the Top 25.

However, BG football seems relevant for who we are and I think Coach Loeffler deserves credit. Can he get get us a MACC - I don’t know, but this was a fun and enjoyable season for this 1990 grad. One of may 10 favorites since 1985…fwiw.
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Our schedule helped us out as we played Kent, Ball State and Central...Those teams were a combined 4-19 in the conference. Western and Toledo were break even...Akron went 3-5. Toledo was our best win by far

NIU and ODU were bad losses to take at home...ODU has a losing record and NIU is right at .500. Penn State and A&M were good losses if you believe such a thing exists.

We had a good QB and outstanding threats in Fannin and Stewart. We had over 30 seniors on the roster. You could easily argue that we underachieved this year.

If this is as good as it gets under SL...we should move on. But..I doubt we will unless he leaves on his own. I mean...Matt Eberflus is out there looking for work...
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Matt Eberflus is a Toledo alum, I wouldn’t be surprised if he takes over for UT if Candle bolts for an OC job somewhere

I think all things considered this team underachieved a bit, but that win at UT is no joke. Hanging with Penn State and TAMU like that was pretty wild as well. The NIU loss is eh, the ODU loss was bad bad bad though. Maybe this is loser talk but I’m just glad BG is respectable again.

The offensive line continues to be the big issue with the team. Miami just ate us alive in the trenches
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Flipper wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 11:43 am Our schedule helped us out as we played Kent, Ball State and Central...Those teams were a combined 4-19 in the conference. Western and Toledo were break even...Akron went 3-5. Toledo was our best win by far

NIU and ODU were bad losses to take at home...ODU has a losing record and NIU is right at .500. Penn State and A&M were good losses if you believe such a thing exists.

We had a good QB and outstanding threats in Fannin and Stewart. We had over 30 seniors on the roster. You could easily argue that we underachieved this year.

If this is as good as it gets under SL...we should move on. But..I doubt we will unless he leaves on his own. I mean...Matt Eberflus is out there looking for work...
BG Football is someplace you can come in and win quick. It is one of the better jobs in the conference outside of salary. Football gets a lot of resources and facility and campus are on par with conference opponents.
Outside of beating UT they didn’t really have a good win. Just beat the teams they completely out talented. That is a pretty obvious fact.
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TommyG wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 7:38 pm BG Football is someplace you can come in and win quick. It is one of the better jobs in the conference outside of salary. Football gets a lot of resources and facility and campus are on par with conference opponents.
Outside of beating UT they didn’t really have a good win. Just beat the teams they completely out talented. That is a pretty obvious fact.
I agree. It’s in a bit of a recruiting hot bed as well. I do think this team underachieved this season, they had 10-2 talent and went 7-5. I get 1-2 slip ups but they should not have had 3. The offense was just so inept for a long stretch of the year
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Really tough way to end the regular season. But BG was really up against it here at the end. BG had two teams in Miami-OH (in the regular season finale) and Ohio (would-be opponent in the MAC Championship) standing between it an a MAC title this year. It was a major obstacle for the Falcons. While it was exciting to be in the MACC race until the final week, it was almost inevitable that BG wasn't going to win a MACC as both Miami and Ohio have owned Bowling Green since BG's last trip to the MACC a decade ago. Since 2015, BG has gone just 2-6 vs Miami and only 1-7 vs Ohio. I thought BG was a pick'em at best vs Miami, but the RedHawks clearly were the better team that day. In fact, they probably weren't just the better team that day, they just looked like the better team regardless. And had BG somehow gotten past Miami, they probably weren't getting past Ohio anyway. BG fortunately avoided Ohio in the regular season, which was key, as the Bobcats have slaughtered BG by an average of 26 ppg in their seven wins vs the Falcons since 2015. BG has been no match on either side of the ball for OU. And we all know how many problems dual-threat QB's (like OU has) have given BG. With Miami and Ohio standing in the way at the end, the writing was all over the wall that BG wasn't winning a title.

That said, it was interesting to see how 4 former MAC East schools were the only ones alive for a trip to Detroit in the final week. Miami, Ohio, BG and Buffalo were all in the hunt, with no former MAC West schools still in contention the final week of play. For years the West was the better division in football, but the former East schools were clearly better than the former West schools this year.
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BGSU33 wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 10:16 am Really tough way to end the regular season. But BG was really up against it here at the end. BG had two teams in Miami-OH (in the regular season finale) and Ohio (would-be opponent in the MAC Championship) standing between it an a MAC title this year. It was a major obstacle for the Falcons. While it was exciting to be in the MACC race until the final week, it was almost inevitable that BG wasn't going to win a MACC as both Miami and Ohio have owned Bowling Green since BG's last trip to the MACC a decade ago. Since 2015, BG has gone just 2-6 vs Miami and only 1-7 vs Ohio. I thought BG was a pick'em at best vs Miami, but the RedHawks clearly were the better team that day. In fact, they probably weren't just the better team that day, they just looked like the better team regardless. And had BG somehow gotten past Miami, they probably weren't getting past Ohio anyway. BG fortunately avoided Ohio in the regular season, which was key, as the Bobcats have slaughtered BG by an average of 26 ppg in their seven wins vs the Falcons since 2015. BG has been no match on either side of the ball for OU. And we all know how many problems dual-threat QB's (like OU has) have given BG. With Miami and Ohio standing in the way at the end, the writing was all over the wall that BG wasn't winning a title.

That said, it was interesting to see how 4 former MAC East schools were the only ones alive for a trip to Detroit in the final week. Miami, Ohio, BG and Buffalo were all in the hunt, with no former MAC West schools still in contention the final week of play. For years the West was the better division in football, but the former East schools were clearly better than the former West schools this year.
You are talking about a hypothetical game between Ohio and BG. Who cares they aren't playing? Can you do the hypothetical BG Eastern matchup next?

Since 2015 Bowling Green has been coached by Mike Jinks and Scot Loeffler. They have had one winning season. The standards are trash. Therefore, having a s**t record against teams that are better than them comes as zero surprise.

Do you care to elaborate on the BGSU v Ohio prior to the Kingston & the Con Man's arrival in Bowling Green? I remember a 72 spot at the Doyt.
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