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Next year is the last on his contract...if you want to bring him back, you'll have to extend him again.
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Flipper wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 9:27 am Next year is the last on his contract...if you want to bring him back, you'll have to extend him again.
If I were in DVDM's shoes, an extension wouldn't be coming unless BG gets to the MAC championship game. Treading water at 7-5, 6-6 every year is not progress after five years. This was circled as the year to compete for a conference title, anything else should be viewed as falling short.
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Agree with both of the takes before me. If you're bringing him back, it'll be on an extension because that's standard business practice. And if you're doing that, it's because we're 8-4 in the MAC title game (which would mean we could win that and a bowl and be 10-4).

This is supposed to be Scot's best team. Next year looks like a step back regardless with all the roster turnover. It is a logical time to expect to either time to push for a MAC title or start over.
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I think it's unlikely that he doesn't return this year but I enjoy this

1. Mike Jacobs-Mercer: Finished 10-2 this year and has an overall coaching record of 84-19 with stops at Mercer, Lenoir Rhyne and Notre Dame. Just 45 years old, coached OL at EMU, played center at OSU, Defensive coordinator is former falcon Jahmal Brown. 7th seed

2. Brian Wright-N Arizona: Finished 8-4 this year in his first year at N. Arizona, 45-12 overall with success at Pitt St prior, FAU interim head coach. Was the Toledo OC for four years, coached at Youngstown State for 10 years, and Walsh for 3. Went to the College of Wooster. 52 years old.

3. Mike Uremovich-Butler: Finished 9-3 and didn't make the playoffs. 47 years old. The overall record is 51-54 but 18-9 at Butler. Previously OC at NIU *2016-2018/6 total years at NIU) and Temple

4. Jason Eck-Idaho: 9-3 this year for the 47 year old. 24-12 overall. Was OC at S Dakota St, Miss St and Winona. Coached in Minnesota for 4 years, played OL for Wisconsin,

5. Clint Killough-UIW: Finished 10-2 and the 6th seed. Former BG GA in 2017. Just 31

6. Jerry Mack-RBs Jaguars: 44 years old, 31-15 @ NC Central, OC @ Rice in 18-20 and RBs at Tenn 21-23.

7. Brent Vigen-Montana St: 12-0 and the top seed/45-9 in 5 years, OC at ND State and Wyoming, 49 years old. Only this low because he's only coached out west and there will be openings there.

8. Jimmy Rogers-SD State: 10-2 and 25-2 overall, just 36. Coached on the Defensive side of the ball. Only coached in the West.

9. Will Healy-RB Ga State: Just 39, 28-45 overall head coaching record at Charlotte and Austin Peay. Was at Austin Peay when Van Der Merwe was AD, Was 13-21 at Austin Peay but got snatched away and was 7-6 his first year at Charlotte.

10-Trei Oliver-NC Central: 8-3 this year and 37-21 overall, Defensive coach, missed tournament

11-Tom Matukewicz-SE Missouri St: 9-3 this year and overall 63-62, Toledo DC in 2012-13, N Illinois 08-11. 51 years old.

12-Willie Simmons-RBs Duke: 66-24 over stops at Florida AnM ad Prairie View AnM

13-Matt Mitchell-Wisconsin LBs/STs: 49 year old was 117-31 over 12 years at Grand Valley St.

14-Matt Entz-USC AHC/LBs: 60-11 @ ND State, 51 years old

15-Tom Manning-TEs Colts: Was interested last time it opened, Toledo OL coach from 12-15, OC at Iowa State, From Youngstown, played at MT Union. No Head coaching experience.
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Ryan Day might be available soon...
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Flipper wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 9:36 am Ryan Day might be available soon...
He also might still win a national title this year.
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I'd be surprised if he coaches another game in Columbus (unless they land a home game in the tournament I guess).

And yesterday showed why I'd want nothing to do with him. He's Loeffler with a bigger budget. Dude can't coach
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hammb wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 9:57 am I'd be surprised if he coaches another game in Columbus (unless they land a home game in the tournament I guess).

And yesterday showed why I'd want nothing to do with him. He's Loeffler with a bigger budget. Dude can't coach
He’s totally different than Loeffler. Loeffler’s teams have always showed up in big games against Toledo and P5 opposition. He just can’t get his team up for games like ODU, NIU and Miami this year. If there’s one thing to say about Loeffler, it’s that he knows how to beat Toledo
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TerrenceJesus8 wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 1:18 pm
hammb wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 9:57 am I'd be surprised if he coaches another game in Columbus (unless they land a home game in the tournament I guess).

And yesterday showed why I'd want nothing to do with him. He's Loeffler with a bigger budget. Dude can't coach
He’s totally different than Loeffler. Loeffler’s teams have always showed up in big games against Toledo and P5 opposition. He just can’t get his team up for games like ODU, NIU and Miami this year. If there’s one thing to say about Loeffler, it’s that he knows how to beat Toledo
Other than the distinct difference in how they've fared against their primary rival I disagree that they're different at all. Both of them have built rosters that are more talented than their conference brethren. Both of them are absolutely clueless tactically.

It's tough to gain a real appreciation for how bad a coach Day is because his talent base guarantees him 7-8 wins a year. But when he gets in a dogfight like yesterday he has nothing in his bag to find a way to get those star rbs or WRs the ball? Clueless. Just like Loeffler who couldn't find a way to either get Fannin involved or use his gravity to free up others against Miami.

Setting the bar at "getting the team up for p5 matchups and UT" is a really low bar. No coach at BG should ever struggle to do either...those are the easiest games on the schedule to sell emotionally. Conversely, when you actually need some coaching chops to get the team to win the other games he fails...every year.

Much like Day the only real offensive success he's found is to recruit the likes of terion Stewart or Harold Fannin and simply let them make plays. That's great, props for getting and retaining talent here. But dude still can't coach.
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After the disaster of Mike Jinks and the nearly 10 year losing streak to Toledo, I would argue that was basically the bar for Loeffler. 3 wins over Toledo and 2 legit P5 wins is all I could have hoped for when we hired him with the dumpster fire roster we had post Jinks

Now that the roster is better, thinking he’s the guy to take us to that next level is very debatable. But I would argue his tenure has been successful. I don’t think a lot of people realize how absolutely barren this roster was after Jinks left
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TerrenceJesus8 wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 4:17 pm After the disaster of Mike Jinks and the nearly 10 year losing streak to Toledo, I would argue that was basically the bar for Loeffler. 3 wins over Toledo and 2 legit P5 wins is all I could have hoped for when we hired him with the dumpster fire roster we had post Jinks

Now that the roster is better, thinking he’s the guy to take us to that next level is very debatable. But I would argue his tenure has been successful. I don’t think a lot of people realize how absolutely barren this roster was after Jinks left
With all due respect, I couldn't possibly disagree more. He's been here 6 freaking years. And people are still giving him extra credit because the coach before him sucked? Please. Most new coaches come into bad situations, that's why the previous coach is gone.

You want to call him ok because he picked the program up from the dumpster and took it to mediocre? Fine, but his record isn't exactly good at 27-40 and 2 winning seasons...yet to record 8 wins. If that's your bar it's hilariously low.

But there is absolutely no measuring stick that you can call this season a success. He had 30 seniors. A 6th year QB. The best TE in the NCAA. One of the best RBs in the conference. And they failed to make the championship game because they lost 2 conference games at home. Both by double digits. One when you knew it was winner take all, the other against a mediocre team on your homecoming.
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He's the football version of Michael Huger
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Flipper wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 8:08 pm He's the football version of Michael Huger
Yep. Loeffler & Huger, 2 peas in a pod. BOth living proof that BG has no business ever issuing contract extensions. IF they're not poached away within the length of their first deal then they're not worth keeping.
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hammb wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 9:13 pm
Flipper wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 8:08 pm He's the football version of Michael Huger
Yep. Loeffler & Huger, 2 peas in a pod. BOth living proof that BG has no business ever issuing contract extensions. IF they're not poached away within the length of their first deal then they're not worth keeping.
This depends on the age of the coach really, but for any younger coach I would agree to a point.
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hammb wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 7:19 pm
TerrenceJesus8 wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 4:17 pm After the disaster of Mike Jinks and the nearly 10 year losing streak to Toledo, I would argue that was basically the bar for Loeffler. 3 wins over Toledo and 2 legit P5 wins is all I could have hoped for when we hired him with the dumpster fire roster we had post Jinks

Now that the roster is better, thinking he’s the guy to take us to that next level is very debatable. But I would argue his tenure has been successful. I don’t think a lot of people realize how absolutely barren this roster was after Jinks left
With all due respect, I couldn't possibly disagree more. He's been here 6 freaking years. And people are still giving him extra credit because the coach before him sucked? Please. Most new coaches come into bad situations, that's why the previous coach is gone.

You want to call him ok because he picked the program up from the dumpster and took it to mediocre? Fine, but his record isn't exactly good at 27-40 and 2 winning seasons...yet to record 8 wins. If that's your bar it's hilariously low.

But there is absolutely no measuring stick that you can call this season a success. He had 30 seniors. A 6th year QB. The best TE in the NCAA. One of the best RBs in the conference. And they failed to make the championship game because they lost 2 conference games at home. Both by double digits. One when you knew it was winner take all, the other against a mediocre team on your homecoming.
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