Loffler to Eagles QB Coach

[Warthog]

5. It's also not out of the realm of possibility that every coach is going to be replaced.

This right here is what I feel bad about. IF we go outside to hire someone, then all of the current coaches are likely out of jobs. And no one else is looking for coaches now. Loeffler gets his bag money and rides off smelling like a rose, but the other coaches may end up unemployed.

[mbenecke]

5. It's also not out of the realm of possibility that every coach is going to be replaced.

This right here is what I feel bad about. IF we go outside to hire someone, then all of the current coaches are likely out of jobs. And no one else is looking for coaches now. Loeffler gets his bag money and rides off smelling like a rose, but the other coaches may end up unemployed.

This is totally true.

However, most of these guys can probably go be analysts at P4 schools and get a nice pay bump out of it.

[jpfalcon09]

The timing of this is simply BRUTAL for BG. There's no other way to sugarcoat it. I see some differing comments about the importance of the timing and the assistance of the portal, but there are a number of factors to consider involving both issues, and none are good for BG right now:

1. While it's true you can try and rebuild quicker in college football nowadays with the portal, you also have to remember how it works right now in a time like this. As far as outgoing portal entries are concerned, BG has already gone through one window in December, and a second one is coming in April. But now - BG players will have to navigate around an additional THIRD departure only window (a 30-day window since the resignation). BG doesn't get a new third window to bring guys in, it is only hamstrung with having an additional one against it.

2. As far as the portal itself, the main movement period (the first one in December) - has already come and gone. Yes, there is another one coming in April, but your bigger targets (the ones who already knew they were leaving) typically move in and during the first window. The next window is more of the guys who waited to see where they pecking order was after spring ball was over The second portal window is what teams fill holes with, not rebuild rosters with. That's the big difference between the two periods and it's a very crucial difference.

3. You also have to consider how this news fell not only AFTER the new group of transfers coming in, but it also came after BOTH the December and February signing periods. ALL of those guys slated to be coming to BG are now potential losses - not to mention - with the entire rest of the roster that has the ability to depart as well.

4. BG is also on the verge of starting spring ball. Uhhhh......could there be any more uncertainty entering spring than this? You don't have a coach. You don't know who your coach will be. You don't know if any of the coaches here now will be here tomorrow. You don't know if any of the transfers and signees will stay. And you don't know how many returning players will be staying. How the hell do you conduct any beneficial spring functions under those circumstances? This spring is shot to hell.

5. It's also not out of the realm of possibility that every coach is going to be replaced.

In short, none of that is good news for BG. There's nothing about the timing of this announcement that wasn't that bad for BG. Had it happened after the season or 6-8 weeks ago, it would have had an impact, but not like this. It would have been much easier to manage and navigate. This is a total $hit show to manage right now. True, BG was looking at a drop off next season. It still wasn't going to be able to beat or compete with top MAC teams like Ohio and Miami. But it now has to try like hell not to fall into the pitfall of what happened to Kent State when Sean Lewis left. And remember - he left in early December - not on the last day of frickin' February like SL did.

We don't know what is going to happen. Not every player is going to leave the program. Most of them would honestly end up out of the FBS. I believe it's a great opportunity for DVDM to shape the program within the confines of what the sport has become since Scot's hiring.

[Globetrotter]

The timing of this is simply BRUTAL for BG. There's no other way to sugarcoat it. I see some differing comments about the importance of the timing and the assistance of the portal, but there are a number of factors to consider involving both issues, and none are good for BG right now:

1. While it's true you can try and rebuild quicker in college football nowadays with the portal, you also have to remember how it works right now in a time like this. As far as outgoing portal entries are concerned, BG has already gone through one window in December, and a second one is coming in April. But now - BG players will have to navigate around an additional THIRD departure only window (a 30-day window since the resignation). BG doesn't get a new third window to bring guys in, it is only hamstrung with having an additional one against it.

2. As far as the portal itself, the main movement period (the first one in December) - has already come and gone. Yes, there is another one coming in April, but your bigger targets (the ones who already knew they were leaving) typically move in and during the first window. The next window is more of the guys who waited to see where they pecking order was after spring ball was over The second portal window is what teams fill holes with, not rebuild rosters with. That's the big difference between the two periods and it's a very crucial difference.

3. You also have to consider how this news fell not only AFTER the new group of transfers coming in, but it also came after BOTH the December and February signing periods. ALL of those guys slated to be coming to BG are now potential losses - not to mention - with the entire rest of the roster that has the ability to depart as well.

4. BG is also on the verge of starting spring ball. Uhhhh......could there be any more uncertainty entering spring than this? You don't have a coach. You don't know who your coach will be. You don't know if any of the coaches here now will be here tomorrow. You don't know if any of the transfers and signees will stay. And you don't know how many returning players will be staying. How the hell do you conduct any beneficial spring functions under those circumstances? This spring is shot to hell.

5. It's also not out of the realm of possibility that every coach is going to be replaced.

In short, none of that is good news for BG. There's nothing about the timing of this announcement that wasn't that bad for BG. Had it happened after the season or 6-8 weeks ago, it would have had an impact, but not like this. It would have been much easier to manage and navigate. This is a total $hit show to manage right now. True, BG was looking at a drop off next season. It still wasn't going to be able to beat or compete with top MAC teams like Ohio and Miami. But it now has to try like hell not to fall into the pitfall of what happened to Kent State when Sean Lewis left. And remember - he left in early December - not on the last day of frickin' February like SL did.

I really don't believe any of this will matter. The roster was being rebuilt anyway. We will find the right coach and have a tough first year and then build. He will come in and sit down with the players and some will stay and some will go. BG will be better off.

[BGFalconfromCincy]

The timing of this is simply BRUTAL for BG. There's no other way to sugarcoat it. I see some differing comments about the importance of the timing and the assistance of the portal, but there are a number of factors to consider involving both issues, and none are good for BG right now:

1. While it's true you can try and rebuild quicker in college football nowadays with the portal, you also have to remember how it works right now in a time like this. As far as outgoing portal entries are concerned, BG has already gone through one window in December, and a second one is coming in April. But now - BG players will have to navigate around an additional THIRD departure only window (a 30-day window since the resignation). BG doesn't get a new third window to bring guys in, it is only hamstrung with having an additional one against it.

2. As far as the portal itself, the main movement period (the first one in December) - has already come and gone. Yes, there is another one coming in April, but your bigger targets (the ones who already knew they were leaving) typically move in and during the first window. The next window is more of the guys who waited to see where they pecking order was after spring ball was over The second portal window is what teams fill holes with, not rebuild rosters with. That's the big difference between the two periods and it's a very crucial difference.

3. You also have to consider how this news fell not only AFTER the new group of transfers coming in, but it also came after BOTH the December and February signing periods. ALL of those guys slated to be coming to BG are now potential losses - not to mention - with the entire rest of the roster that has the ability to depart as well.

4. BG is also on the verge of starting spring ball. Uhhhh......could there be any more uncertainty entering spring than this? You don't have a coach. You don't know who your coach will be. You don't know if any of the coaches here now will be here tomorrow. You don't know if any of the transfers and signees will stay. And you don't know how many returning players will be staying. How the hell do you conduct any beneficial spring functions under those circumstances? This spring is shot to hell.

5. It's also not out of the realm of possibility that every coach is going to be replaced.

In short, none of that is good news for BG. There's nothing about the timing of this announcement that wasn't that bad for BG. Had it happened after the season or 6-8 weeks ago, it would have had an impact, but not like this. It would have been much easier to manage and navigate. This is a total $hit show to manage right now. True, BG was looking at a drop off next season. It still wasn't going to be able to beat or compete with top MAC teams like Ohio and Miami. But it now has to try like hell not to fall into the pitfall of what happened to Kent State when Sean Lewis left. And remember - he left in early December - not on the last day of frickin' February like SL did.

That's a whole hell of a lot of useless words to say what you really wanted to say.

It still wasn't going to be able to beat or compete with top MAC teams like Ohio and Miami.

I'm surprised to took him so long to mention his favorite MAC team

[jpfalcon09]

Names floated by Chris Vannini from The Athletic:

-- Mercer head coach Mike Jacobs
-- Mount Union head coach Geoff Dartt
-- Toledo defensive coordinator Vince Kehres
-- Michigan running backs coach Tony Alford
-- Kansas offensive coordinator Jim Zebrowski
-- Minnesota co-defensive coordinator Nick Monroe
-- John Carroll athletic director Brian Polian
-- Eastern Kentucky head coach Walt Wells
-- Chattanooga head coach Rusty Wright
-- Dino Babers (lol)

[BillyLP]

Names floated by Chris Vannini from The Athletic:

-- Mercer head coach Mike Jacobs
-- Mount Union head coach Geoff Dartt
-- Toledo defensive coordinator Vince Kehres
-- Michigan running backs coach Tony Alford
-- Kansas offensive coordinator Jim Zebrowski
-- Minnesota co-defensive coordinator Nick Monroe
-- John Carroll athletic director Brian Polian
-- Eastern Kentucky head coach Walt Wells
-- Chattanooga head coach Rusty Wright
-- Dino Babers (lol)

Out of these, I'd rank my top three as:

1) Jacobs
2) Kehres
3) Zebrowski

[Globetrotter]

Jacobs
Brian Wright
Clint Killough

Monroe sounds interesting

[Falcon Commander]

some names (and fun) from the past...

Prior to Syracuse, Monroe served as the secondary coach at Bowling Green from 2010-15. He consistently produced units that ranked among the nation's best and helped the Falcons to four straight bowl games and two MAC titles. Monroe's guidance also helped turn Jude Adjei-Barimah into an NFL contributor. A defensive back for Bowling Green from 2011-14, Adjei-Barimah played 23 games (eight starts) for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers from 2015-16.

Monroe inherited an inexperienced unit at Bowling Green that featured four new starters. In two seasons, he molded them into one of the stingiest defensive backfields in the country. Featuring All-MAC performers BooBoo Gates and Cameron Truss, the 2012 Falcons ranked 13th nationally in passing defense (190.1 ypg) to help lift the team to an 8-5 record and an appearance in the Military Bowl.

The following season, the Bowling Green secondary was even better. The Falcons finished sixth in the FBS against the pass (170.9 ypg) and Gates earned All-MAC First Team honors for the second year in a row. As a team, Bowling Green won its first conference championship since 1992 and played Pittsburgh in the 2013 Little Caesars Pizza Bowl.

In 2014, Monroe successfully oversaw the maturation of safety Brian Sutton and the development of two young cornerbacks. Sutton's production skyrocketed from the previous season as he jumped from 43 to 102 tackles. In addition, rookie cornerbacks Nick Johnson and Clint Stephens combined for nine interceptions. The unit also featured Adjei-Barimah, who recorded 82 tackles. The Falcons won the MAC East title and defeated South Alabama in the inaugural Raycom Media Camellia Bowl.

In 2015, Bowling Green posted a 10-4 record, won the MAC championship for the second time in three seasons, and earned a berth in the GoDaddy Bowl. Monroe's defensive backfield finished eighth in the FBS with 20 interceptions, including a team-high six picks by cornerback Alfonso Mack.

[hammb]

I'm going to put my flag in the sand for Dino Babers.

Not because I think he's the best coach we can get (although he could be), but simply because it would royally piss off a lot of people and be entertaining for me.

[maskedopining]

I’m over BG football completely so don’t care too much what they do next. Definitely not ideal timing.
I am happy that it helps the Lions…I’d think it’s a pretty safe bet you’ll see some regression out of Eagles QB play.

Couldn’t agree more, with apologies to any players that may frequent the site, college football is now at a point in which the BG football program is going to have a lot of things decided for them by the larger schools. It had its place for a time and that time has passed. Just get out of this…it would be so much less painful, and much cheaper, to make the decision on your own than have it made for you by outside forces. Trying to hold on to a FBS football program is folly. It is an unwatchable product that occurs on Tuesday and Wednesday night with no one watching. I mean, if you can’t keep Scot Loeffler, what are we doing here? Move on, before the world moves on without you.

[JohnFloyd4Life]

Dave Clawson.

[Flipper]

Clawson was a methodical , long range planner. The game has seemingly passed him by

[Globetrotter]

Clawson was a methodical , long range planner. The game has seemingly passed him by

I don't look at it that way. I find football far more interesting than basketball now. We kept many more of our players and stars in football than we did in Basketball. The turnover in basketball is over 50%. Football is nowhere near that.

[Flipper]

Point remains...the game has changed greatly from Clawson's tenure here and appears to be on the precipice of even greater change. I would question if he has the skill set to successfully function in that environment