2024-25 Offseason

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BillyLP wrote: Mon Jun 16, 2025 2:59 pm

This has been a pretty whopping failure. Ends tonight and only a few items even have a bid. Most are still sitting untouched.
Looks like about $8600 in bids currently. I wouldn't exactly call that a "whopping failure." While it may seem like peanuts to some, they have to start somewhere, and right now they're $8600 ahead with basically minimal effort. Until they find that big donor like Slater for hockey, this is how it's going to be done. I'm sure some of the items were expected to not receive bids. Something like this may also help identify potential bigger donors. Someone pays $1000 just to have dinner with Coach, what else may they be willing to donate?
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Re: 2024-25 Offseason

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pdt1081 wrote: Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:38 pm
BillyLP wrote: Mon Jun 16, 2025 2:59 pm

This has been a pretty whopping failure. Ends tonight and only a few items even have a bid. Most are still sitting untouched.
Looks like about $8600 in bids currently. I wouldn't exactly call that a "whopping failure." While it may seem like peanuts to some, they have to start somewhere, and right now they're $8600 ahead with basically minimal effort. Until they find that big donor like Slater for hockey, this is how it's going to be done. I'm sure some of the items were expected to not receive bids. Something like this may also help identify potential bigger donors. Someone pays $1000 just to have dinner with Coach, what else may they be willing to donate?
They must have had some bids since this morning, because I counted up to about $5000 earlier (although math is admittedly not my strong suit). I was viewing anything less than $10k as not great, so we're getting closer.
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BillyLP wrote: Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:46 pm
pdt1081 wrote: Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:38 pm
BillyLP wrote: Mon Jun 16, 2025 2:59 pm

This has been a pretty whopping failure. Ends tonight and only a few items even have a bid. Most are still sitting untouched.
Looks like about $8600 in bids currently. I wouldn't exactly call that a "whopping failure." While it may seem like peanuts to some, they have to start somewhere, and right now they're $8600 ahead with basically minimal effort. Until they find that big donor like Slater for hockey, this is how it's going to be done. I'm sure some of the items were expected to not receive bids. Something like this may also help identify potential bigger donors. Someone pays $1000 just to have dinner with Coach, what else may they be willing to donate?
They must have had some bids since this morning, because I counted up to about $5000 earlier (although math is admittedly not my strong suit). I was viewing anything less than $10k as not great, so we're getting closer.
I may keep an eye on one of the dinners this evening. Would be a unique opportunity.
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I'm sure the auction site is getting 5%-10% also, so factor that into the pawn shop formula.
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guest44 wrote: Mon Jun 16, 2025 8:05 pm I'm sure the auction site is getting 5%-10% also, so factor that into the pawn shop formula.
They use LiveSource, which is actually 100% of the bid goes to the institution. The fees are passed on to the people bidding. We used them for one thing at a previous institution I was with. They were a good partner!

Fun fact that you will love, guest: The VP of LiveSource is the spouse of Bowling Green's new CIO.
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BillyLP wrote: Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:46 pm
They must have had some bids since this morning, because I counted up to about $5000 earlier (although math is admittedly not my strong suit). I was viewing anything less than $10k as not great, so we're getting closer.
They're over $12,000 with just under 2 hours to go. They're not going to make a big splash in the grand scheme of things, but it's a lot better than absolutely nothing. And the prices aren't exactly giving away the experiences or items.
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BillyLP wrote: Mon Jun 16, 2025 8:39 pm
guest44 wrote: Mon Jun 16, 2025 8:05 pm I'm sure the auction site is getting 5%-10% also, so factor that into the pawn shop formula.
They use LiveSource, which is actually 100% of the bid goes to the institution. The fees are passed on to the people bidding. We used them for one thing at a previous institution I was with. They were a good partner!

Fun fact that you will love, guest: The VP of LiveSource is the spouse of Bowling Green's new CIO.
Well of course she is. BGSU wouldn't have found Live Source otherwise. BGSU went from not allowing athletes to use the logos in NIL, to a pawn shop in like 12 months. The grift has landed in Bowling Green.
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I would have thought they would have started prices lower to try to get some more people interested and bidding. Either way I was never the target although the heisman ceremony would be cool to see everything in person
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pdt1081 wrote: Mon Jun 16, 2025 10:35 pm
BillyLP wrote: Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:46 pm
They must have had some bids since this morning, because I counted up to about $5000 earlier (although math is admittedly not my strong suit). I was viewing anything less than $10k as not great, so we're getting closer.
They're over $12,000 with just under 2 hours to go. They're not going to make a big splash in the grand scheme of things, but it's a lot better than absolutely nothing. And the prices aren't exactly giving away the experiences or items.
More money was made yesterday outside the auction with sponsorships and such for the golf outing. Probably ended up being a lucrative day for the program.

Eddie is speaking this evening at The Pinnacle in Toledo for Mosaic Family Zone, an organization fighting poverty in the city. He's been such a great ambassador for the university in such a short amount of time.
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jpfalcon09 wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:44 pm
pdt1081 wrote: Mon Jun 16, 2025 10:35 pm
BillyLP wrote: Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:46 pm
They must have had some bids since this morning, because I counted up to about $5000 earlier (although math is admittedly not my strong suit). I was viewing anything less than $10k as not great, so we're getting closer.
They're over $12,000 with just under 2 hours to go. They're not going to make a big splash in the grand scheme of things, but it's a lot better than absolutely nothing. And the prices aren't exactly giving away the experiences or items.
More money was made yesterday outside the auction with sponsorships and such for the golf outing. Probably ended up being a lucrative day for the program.

Eddie is speaking this evening at The Pinnacle in Toledo for Mosaic Family Zone, an organization fighting poverty in the city. He's been such a great ambassador for the university in such a short amount of time.
He has. Probably some credit to Urban for helping him understand that role of being HC at BGSU.

It's always been true that our HCs need to be our lead marketers as well.
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The Athletic with a feature article today on Eddie George: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/643483 ... ch-acting/

Includes this tidbit:

Bowling Green had an average announced attendance of 13,358 last year, seventh out of 12 MAC teams. According to a Bowling Green spokesman, season ticket sales have risen 40 percent from last season so far, while sales for single-game and group tickets have risen 2,000 percent since they opened on June 2.
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jpfalcon09 wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 4:54 pm The Athletic with a feature article today on Eddie George: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/643483 ... ch-acting/

Includes this tidbit:

Bowling Green had an average announced attendance of 13,358 last year, seventh out of 12 MAC teams. According to a Bowling Green spokesman, season ticket sales have risen 40 percent from last season so far, while sales for single-game and group tickets have risen 2,000 percent since they opened on June 2.
In all the years I've been following BG athletics, when it comes to football attendance, it almost always boils down to two simple, yet very important and deciding factors. Winning and Weather. You can also toss in avoiding the same starting time as say an Ohio State game too. But if the program is winning and the weather isn't crap, BG will typically get decent to good crowds. If the combination of the team isn't winning or if the weather is poor exists - or God forbid it's both - you can just about forget about it. I have seen a ton of examples where Winning & Weather have produced better crowds over featured opponents, promotions, "important" games, etc., over the years. It's had me monitoring the 10-day extended forecast sometimes more than studying up on BG's opponent before a home game for years now.
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jpfalcon09 wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 4:54 pm The Athletic with a feature article today on Eddie George: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/643483 ... ch-acting/

Includes this tidbit:

Bowling Green had an average announced attendance of 13,358 last year, seventh out of 12 MAC teams. According to a Bowling Green spokesman, season ticket sales have risen 40 percent from last season so far, while sales for single-game and group tickets have risen 2,000 percent since they opened on June 2.
So I read this article and think to myself that we have the fundamentals and potential of a nationally competitive FCS program. Let’s just do this now and stop wasting time and money.
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I mean, the more things change, the more I believe that could be a viable path for us. It would give us an ACTUAL chance to win a national title. If the MAC as a whole would go, I’d potentially be into it.
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I think the issue with any FCS discussion is what does it solve/accomplish.

I 100% believe that the MAC belongs in FCS based on things like budgets, on field competition, etc. I don't see any way we can hope to compete in the new FBS landscape where you're committing millions of dollars to player NIL on top of the bloated coach contracts, infrastructure costs, etc.

But the issue with FCS is revenue is gutted. You drop to FCS and you probably lose whatever pittance you get from the ESPN contract. Your OOC cash games take a massive hit in payout. You lose any of the bowl allotments/sharing from the championship, etc. And for that revenue hit what cost savings do you really see? Less scholarships, sure. Less NIL, obviously. But travel and infrastructure costs for the team largely remain unchanged. Coach salaries should drop precipitously. I don't know what the net gain is though given how much revenue will be impacted.

I've long felt the best path forward for BG (and much of the G5) would be to form a loose agreement to stay FBS but "opt out" of the new insanity. Stay FBS with regard to scholarships, etc, but admit we're not playing on the same field with regard to funding. Some sort of "salary cap" on coaching salaries/NIL, etc. A loose agreement where we can keep the revenue roughly static but prevent the astronomical increases in expenses.