More legal stuff

[BGGrad01]

I'm sure Teddy is a great guy and he gives it his all on the field, but he is a captain and the captains should be smart enough to not get to the point that he is described as being in the article. If something else happened, then my opinion could/would change, but based on that article, it sounds like he got too drunk and embarrassed himself and the team. I don't know if a suspension is warranted, but perhaps stipping his "Captain" title is?

[Schadenfreude]

Suspend him for three games and do it right quick. We are not Toledo. Regardless of his legal right to drink, he is a representative of the University AT ALL TIMES and should be dealt with accordingly.

While we are at it, why don't we we have a ceremony in front of the Wood County Courthouse and cut of his right (drinkin') hand, Iranian-style?



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[Dr. Bucko]

No, college kids won't be college kids. My feeling is that most kids on athletic scholarships tend to be a bit more responsible ----- they know the consequences of putting themselves in harms-way by breaking civil laws/training rules. A scholarship vs a few beers ought to be an easy choice to make, and most athletes would agree. Unfortunately there are some, especially in high-profile sports, that march to the beat of a different drum.

[BGFalcons232]

he may be a football player... but he's a college student first. how many of you alums didn't get stupid drunk at least once in your college career? how many of you current students didn't get stupid drunk in the last month? this is what some college students do. i think some of you are blowing this out of proportion.

it's not like he was busted with marijuana or sexually assaulted a woman at the bar or was even drinking underage. he got a little (okay, a lot) too drunk, which is not against the law. he's a 21 year old college student... he's going to drunk from time to time.

and besides, this was the spring. his season was not in session. again, he didn't beat someone up or do some illegal drug. he did nothing that no other college student hasn't done at some point in their lives. some of you need to lighten up and remember what college was like for you...

edit... upon rereading the original blade article, i realized this just happened and school of course, is in session. either way, it doesn't make what teddy did any better or worse.

[PGY Tiercel]

No, college kids won't be college kids. My feeling is that most kids on athletic scholarships tend to be a bit more responsible

HA, it is always the varisty athlete teams that throw the biggest parties. The swim team had huge ones, and if I remember, the football team always had a big one in the fall has well. My brother is on Penn states Gymnastic team. they had a house dedicated to big parties, and "had" to pay about 50-100 bucks a year for them,keeping in mind that this team has 8 Academic All-Big Ten award winners (leads big ten) and as of last year 4 Academic All-Americans. From what my brother said, football and wrestlers all have big parties at PSU. Athletes tend to be responsible during season, outside of it, they are the biggest party animals

[It's the Journey...]

This is a little bit of a double standard in the media. Would we have even heard of this if he was not an athlete at BG? I agree this is a non-story. I think he should keep his role as captain. Ride him hard in the pre-season, sit him for a game, Let him be an example to the rest of the team that you can screw up, take your punishment, and come out alright and a better person for it. Thats how I would deal with it, make it a lesson for the whole team. But none of it should have ever hit the papers except for in the blotter.

[Falconfreak90]

This is a little bit of a double standard in the media. Would we have even heard of this if he was not an athlete at BG? I agree this is a non-story. I think he should keep his role as captain. Ride him hard in the pre-season, sit him for a game, Let him be an example to the rest of the team that you can screw up, take your punishment, and come out alright and a better person for it. Thats how I would deal with it, make it a lesson for the whole team. But none of it should have ever hit the papers except for in the blotter.

I agree with this. I'm not saying to strip his Captain's title either. No way.
I just think, as a Captain and a SR, Teddy should have known. That's it.
Like I said, I got blasted too many times to remember and I won't rail him for this. Teddy is legal age. Everything will work out fine.

[Redwingtom]

A couple more observations.

Since Ted is on scholarship, he is basically getting paid to play, hence an employee. A lot of companies employment contracts have ethics clauses in them. That is why he needs to be held accountable for his actions. Suspend him now...if the evidence proves otherwise, re-instate him with an apology and educate others.

A more troubling aspect of this story to me is that the bar should be held accountable here as well. Either they let a visibly intoxicated person in the bar which they should never do, or they over served him which again they should never do. And I realize that his so called friends may have been contributing here, but what kind of friend is that?

And Schad and others...my prayers are one day that you will grow up and realize that you don't need to have alcohol to have a good time. Unfortunately, I know far too many people in their 30's and 40's who have never quite grasped that concept.

[FliccGirl]

And Schad and others...my prayers are one day that you will grow up and realize that you don't need to have alcohol to have a good time. Unfortunately, I know far too many people in their 30's and 40's who have never quite grasped that concept.

Wow. What makes you think they don't realize that? Note that most are saying he should have known better. They're just saying that what he did is no different from what most other college students do. They're not saying that makes it okay, a good idea, or the only way to have a good time.

[UK Peregrine]

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[1987alum]

This is a little bit of a double standard in the media. Would we have even heard of this if he was not an athlete at BG? I agree this is a non-story. I think he should keep his role as captain. Ride him hard in the pre-season, sit him for a game, Let him be an example to the rest of the team that you can screw up, take your punishment, and come out alright and a better person for it. Thats how I would deal with it, make it a lesson for the whole team. But none of it should have ever hit the papers except for in the blotter.

I agree with this. I'm not saying to strip his Captain's title either. No way.
I just think, as a Captain and a SR, Teddy should have known. That's it.
Like I said, I got blasted too many times to remember and I won't rail him for this. Teddy is legal age. Everything will work out fine.

Finally: Boy does it make my blood boil when I read "double standard in the media." No-win situation for a newspaper. Fail to report it, and there will be a chorus of wailing about how it was covered up and the athlete was given prefential treatment.

Is there a double standard? No, there are many more than two standards. Athletes, in particular athletes in high-profile sports like football, basketball, hockey, etc., are viewed differently. Because the media wants to treat them differently? No, because the PUBLIC treats them differently. For good or ill, right or wrong, they give more attention to these athletes. Hence, the media should cover them with more attention. It's the free market economy at work.

Freak: I don't think you need to strip him of the "C," either. You do, however, need to remind him what the "C" means. I would expect Brandon to have a serious 1-on-1 discussion with Teddyj and have Teddy clear the air with the team. It need go no further than that.

[Schadenfreude]

And Schad and others...my prayers are one day that you will grow up and realize that you don't need to have alcohol to have a good time.

I'm actually grown. But thanks for asking.

I also remember when I was 21.

Perhaps that's the difference here.

[Schadenfreude]

I would expect Brandon to have a serious 1-on-1 discussion with Teddyj and have Teddy clear the air with the team. It need go no further than that.

Bingo.

[Falconfreak90]

This is a little bit of a double standard in the media. Would we have even heard of this if he was not an athlete at BG? I agree this is a non-story. I think he should keep his role as captain. Ride him hard in the pre-season, sit him for a game, Let him be an example to the rest of the team that you can screw up, take your punishment, and come out alright and a better person for it. Thats how I would deal with it, make it a lesson for the whole team. But none of it should have ever hit the papers except for in the blotter.

I agree with this. I'm not saying to strip his Captain's title either. No way.
I just think, as a Captain and a SR, Teddy should have known. That's it.
Like I said, I got blasted too many times to remember and I won't rail him for this. Teddy is legal age. Everything will work out fine.

Finally: Boy does it make my blood boil when I read "double standard in the media." No-win situation for a newspaper. Fail to report it, and there will be a chorus of wailing about how it was covered up and the athlete was given prefential treatment.

Is there a double standard? No, there are many more than two standards. Athletes, in particular athletes in high-profile sports like football, basketball, hockey, etc., are viewed differently. Because the media wants to treat them differently? No, because the PUBLIC treats them differently. For good or ill, right or wrong, they give more attention to these athletes. Hence, the media should cover them with more attention. It's the free market economy at work.

Freak: I don't think you need to strip him of the "C," either. You do, however, need to remind him what the "C" means. I would expect Brandon to have a serious 1-on-1 discussion with Teddyj and have Teddy clear the air with the team. It need go no further than that.

Absolutely '87. As a Captain, you have an obligation carry yourself higher than the rest of the team. Teddy is a smart kid. I'm sure he feels like crap about this and will do what he needs to do to straighten the ship. Far be it from me to throw stones for something I did on a regular basis when I was his age.

[ZiggyZoomba]

And Schad and others...my prayers are one day that you will grow up

Let's not take this to a personal level here guys...