BGSU Football Night in Salem

[Dayons_Den]

I don't have too big of a problem with them scheduling hte Penguins, as long as they get back to the MAC+Cinci rotation.

I would love if a similar situation arose with the Falcons playing in The Swamp.

Freak, I have seen Bowling Green play Ohio State in basketball twice. Once in 1992 or so, we lost. Then we pounded them in 1994 or 95 and Shane Kline-Ruminski got a crappy technical. I have a tape of that game (unless Grant lost it ) and you can see me in the OSU student section calling the bucks a "Disgrace to the Big Ten".

[TG1996]

If they're so concerned about "helping programs out", why don't they just give the money away to other Ohio institutions and play a real team?

What kills me is this notion of "well, if we're going to HAVE to play a 12th game, there's just not enough teams to go around, we'll HAVE to UNFORTUNATELY *sigh, pause, chuckle* play some 1AA teams.

Horse hockey.

If there are what 117 1-A programs playing football, that means ONE team might have to play a 1-AA school. The week they add to the start of the season, there's 58 1A vs. 1A games, and Buffalo can play Western Illinois or something. I understand its not completely as cut and dry as that, but why not? Even if the "big boys" want to bitch and moan about having to play a tough schedule, or wanting home games or whatever, let 'em. Take the final Sagarin from the year before or something, and cut it in half. The top 58 teams play at home against the bottom 58. There is no reason for the top half of the MAC to play 1AA teams, MUCH less top level teams from major conferences.

And I agree. WTF was this guy doing at a BGSU Football event? Even if it boosts attendance for the event and brings in a couple thousand dollars for the football program, that's hardly worth anything when the crowd is out there slobbering over him and wondering "who the guy in the orange shirt" next to him might be.

[Schadenfreude]

What kills me is this notion of "well, if we're going to HAVE to play a 12th game, there's just not enough teams to go around, we'll HAVE to UNFORTUNATELY *sigh, pause, chuckle* play some 1AA teams.

Horse hockey.

Exactly. That's what irks me.

We'll see how this works out. I don't think it means Ohio State will play MAC schools less often, necessarily. We'll just have to keep an eye on it.

[Lord_Byron]

Schad, if I had known that I would ruin your day so badly, I wouldn't have posted it.

The fact that this was in Salem says to me that the Sebos were involved. Isn't that where they live?

[Schadenfreude]

Schad, if I had known that I would ruin your day so badly, I wouldn't have posted it.

Jeez, Lord, I appreciate that you posted it. Not trying to attack the messenger.

Just frustrated with the way the story turned out.

The fact that this was in Salem says to me that the Sebos were involved. Isn't that where they live?

I think you are right about the Sebos living in Salem and you may be right, period. Salem is a bit off the beaten path. Youngstown or Warren would have reached more people.

[orangeandbrown]

"People play the money games to make their budgets go,'' Brandon said. "In our case, we'll play Ohio State whenever and wherever. A lot of the kids in our program think they should be at Ohio State. They don't have any problems getting up for the Buckeyes.''[/b]

Don't say that around here!

[PGY Tiercel]

"People play the money games to make their budgets go,'' Brandon said. "In our case, we'll play Ohio State whenever and wherever. A lot of the kids in our program think they should be at Ohio State. They don't have any problems getting up for the Buckeyes.''[/b]

Don't say that around here!

I didn't like the way that came out, but I chalked it up to him meaning that most of our players believe that they have the talent that they should be/are capable of playing at the level that is accredited to OSU (justifiable or not), and not neccessarily that they settled for coming to BGSU because nobody wanted them. At least thats what I'm hoping he meant, I don't doubt some of our players probably would have much rathered played in Columbus.

[hammb]

"People play the money games to make their budgets go,'' Brandon said. "In our case, we'll play Ohio State whenever and wherever. A lot of the kids in our program think they should be at Ohio State. They don't have any problems getting up for the Buckeyes.''[/b]

Don't say that around here!

I didn't like the way that came out, but I chalked it up to him meaning that most of our players believe that they have the talent that they should be/are capable of playing at the level that is accredited to OSU (justifiable or not), and not neccessarily that they settled for coming to BGSU because nobody wanted them. At least thats what I'm hoping he meant, I don't doubt some of our players probably would have much rathered played in Columbus.

There is not a single player on our team that would've turned down a scholarship at OSU to player here. Not one. In fact there has likely never been, in the history of BG football, a player that turned down an OSU scholarship to go here.

I have no problem with the coaches saying as much. Its the truth, as much as it may suck. Everyone of our players, when they were in HS at least, would've preferred to be at OSU. Brandon's point is that these kids all thought they were good enough to play there, and have a chip on their shoulders because they were told they weren't good enough.

Ii can deal with that fact.

[Flipper]

I'd much raather have them look at a big school with the ire of someone who feels snubbed than the acceptance of someone who knows his "place".

As long as those kids bleed brown and orange after they get here, I could'nt care less where they dreamed of going when they were playing in High School or Pop Warner

[Schadenfreude]

That comment by Brandon didn't upset me at all.

There is not a single player on our team that would've turned down a scholarship at OSU to player here. Not one. In fact there has likely never been, in the history of BG football, a player that turned down an OSU scholarship to go here.

But this one does.

I do not want to get into a long, drawn out debate on this.

But I will say that I disagree with both the content of your post and the wisdom of making it here.

Also: Ben Roethlisberger.

[Jacobs4Heisman]

J5 would have been offered a schollie to OSU had he been willing to change positions. Thank God for BG he was deadset on being a QB. So he kind of did turn down OSU to come here. Although it wasn't because he preferred BG to OSU so much as it was for the opportunity to play QB.

[hammb]

During J5's recruitment, I'm not sure if he did ever officially receive on offer from OSU. Somebody would have to ask him. I know that they were "recruiting" him as a DB, but there are a lot of players who get recruited, but then never officially offered. Even still, we landed him because we were willing to let him play QB.

Roethlisberger had already verballed to Miami before he got his OSU offer, and he was a man of his word. I seem to recall that had both offers come at the same time he wanted to go to OSU. He ended up at Miami because they stuck with him for the whole thing, and OSU wouldn't.

I guess I shouldn't have made my statements so definitive. Maybe 1 out of every 100 players or so would choose the MAC school over the major BCS school. Although, I think both of these examples exhibit extenuating circumstances as well. So I suppose sometimes there are those rare strange circumstances that cause the kids to choose the smaller school, but its doesn't happen all that often. In situations like Big Ben's I bet there are more people who end up shunning their original verbal than there are honoring it. In situations like J5's there are at least as many that would go to the larger school and switch positions.

Sorry if my comments rubbed you wrong, but it is what I believe to be the truth.

[orangeandbrown]

Sorry if my comments rubbed you wrong, but it is what I believe to be the truth.

I think its the truth, too, and I'm fine with it. Doesn't lessen the experience of Bowling Green at all, in my mind. I think the guys we get here are happy here, get a good education and have an enjoyable time on the football field. You just can't compete with the mythology of OSU.

[Class of 61]

"People play the money games to make their budgets go,'' Brandon said. "In our case, we'll play Ohio State whenever and wherever. A lot of the kids in our program think they should be at Ohio State. They don't have any problems getting up for the Buckeyes.''[/b]

Don't say that around here!

Iquote]

There is not a single player on our team that would've turned down a scholarship at OSU to player here. Not one. In fact there has likely never been, in the history of BG football, a player that turned down an OSU scholarship to go here.

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Hambb,
I realize it was "before your time" but I DO believe that a certain 6'6" QB named McClure (or something like that ) turned down OSU to come to BG... if I recall correctly, it was the SAME year that a certain 6'5" QB named Kosar(or something like that ) turned down OSU to go to Miami (Fla. of course).... I can't be totally positive after all these years, but I do seem to recall this, since the 2 QB's went to school approx. 30 mi. apart or so while in H.S.

[hammb]

"People play the money games to make their budgets go,'' Brandon said. "In our case, we'll play Ohio State whenever and wherever. A lot of the kids in our program think they should be at Ohio State. They don't have any problems getting up for the Buckeyes.''[/b]

Don't say that around here!

Iquote]

There is not a single player on our team that would've turned down a scholarship at OSU to player here. Not one. In fact there has likely never been, in the history of BG football, a player that turned down an OSU scholarship to go here.

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Hambb,
I realize it was "before your time" but I DO believe that a certain 6'6" QB named McClure (or something like that ) turned down OSU to come to BG... if I recall correctly, it was the SAME year that a certain 6'5" QB named Kosar(or something like that ) turned down OSU to go to Miami (Fla. of course).... I can't be totally positive after all these years, but I do seem to recall this, since the 2 QB's went to school approx. 30 mi. apart or so while in H.S.

Thanks for the info Class... I, obviously, erred in the totality of my statements, but for the vast majority I believe them to hold true.

Like o&b said, this does not lessen BG football for me in anyway. I'm quite happy with things the way they are...in some respects its even fun to root for the underdog.

In my recent years of following recruiting I have never seen us land a kid who had an offer from any of the major football schools (OSU, UM, Miami(FL), Texas, USC, etc). However, we have progressed to the point where we can compete for kids with WVU, MINN, Indiana, Illinois, etc. I think that is a huge stride in our football program, and I do think we can continue to grow. I know we can compete with any team in the country, as we've proven the past couple years, so I'm not really that upset about not getting all these kids. One nice thing about not landing the top tier guys is that so many of them are pampered and egotistical. Most of our athletes have already had one humbling experience when they weren't king of the world during recruitment; certainly that experience is valuable to them here. I love BG football, and I root my ass off for them like everyone else here. I am not, however, able to delude myself into believing we can compete with OSU for recruits on any sort of consistent basis. Perhaps in the future, but not today.