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Re: reality check

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TG1996 wrote:
old guy wrote:what's unopptimistic about 9 and 2
It "gives up" before two games have even been played.

And I'd rather have my head in the clouds over this one (or wherever else it might be) than looking down at the ground worried about what we might trip over.
Great point Tony. Plus, unoptimistic isn't a word.
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Falconfreak90 wrote:Exactly, TG. I'm with you.
Well I KNOW that. You're the easy one to convince. :wink: :lol:
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old guy wrote:Win 2 of those four games and you end up 9 and 2. What's unoptimistic about that? I think some of you need to get your heads out of the clouds--or wherever else you're placing them--and take a realistic view of BG's schedule and defense. Think any of the 4 mentioned teams isn't going to score points on the defense. Sure BG's offense might outscore each and every one of them--but then again, they might not. That's not being pessimistic--it's called being realistic. And again, what's unopptimistic about 9 and 2, which I have suggested is a likely outcome? Just my opinion. Have a nice day.
I think this falls into the "glass half empty or half full" arguement. I say filler up. :drinkers: :partyman: :supz:
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old guy wrote:Win 2 of those four games and you end up 9 and 2. What's unoptimistic about that? I think some of you need to get your heads out of the clouds--or wherever else you're placing them--and take a realistic view of BG's schedule and defense. Think any of the 4 mentioned teams isn't going to score points on the defense. Sure BG's offense might outscore each and every one of them--but then again, they might not. That's not being pessimistic--it's called being realistic. And again, what's unopptimistic about 9 and 2, which I have suggested is a likely outcome? Just my opinion. Have a nice day.
There is nothing wrong with hoping for an undefeated season and ending up being wrong. I'm wrong all the time, there's nothinng wrong with it. How is hoping for an 11-0 season putting your head in the clouds? We went 9-3 last season with a QB who had never started a game. we have that same QB a season later and he has thrown more than 40 TDs. Our offense is going be down right sick and I believe it could be as good as anyone has ever seen after watching the spring game.

Any fool can tell you that the defense might cause us some problems in those 4 games. It will not be easy to win all four of those games, all of us have admitted that. We just think it is very possible and it is much more fun to think about 12-0 and a new years day bowl than to be thinking about 9-2 and maybe no bowl (if we lost to miami).
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Does this count as optimistic?

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I see us winning every game except Boise (expecting a win at Boise is almost like expecting a win at LSU, Texas, Florida State, etc).

Then I see us taking out NIU in the MACC, and then throttling C-USA 2nd place Marshall in the GMAC, leaving us as MAC champions, 3 times in a row bowl winners, and #13 in the polls.

(then we run the table in 2006 when Boise has to come to the Doyt....)
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Re: Does this count as optimistic?

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San Diego Falcon wrote: (then we run the table in 2006 when Boise has to come to the Doyt....)
Two points: I seriously doubt Omar will be back in 2006, but I think that Turner will be "good enough" to fill the shoes of Harris and Jacobs. If Brandon can recruit and we get/keep a good coaching staff, we should be good for a while.

also, San Diego Falcon - do you have any high-paying jobs for music teachers/ creative geniuses out there?
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Re: Does this count as optimistic?

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San Diego Falcon wrote:I see us winning every game except Boise (expecting a win at Boise is almost like expecting a win at LSU, Texas, Florida State, etc).

Then I see us taking out NIU in the MACC, and then throttling C-USA 2nd place Marshall in the GMAC, leaving us as MAC champions, 3 times in a row bowl winners, and #13 in the polls.

(then we run the table in 2006 when Boise has to come to the Doyt....)
That would be a great scenerio! Boise State is so damn difficult to beat at home but a win there would be monumental...cuz BG will be going into that game 2-0. Boise State will clean your clock if the chinstrap isn't buckled up tightly.

Would this scenerio San Diego Falcon has given satisfy all Falcon fans for 2005? 12-1, MAC Champs, #13 final ranking. Pretty hard to pass that up.

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My bad...I own it. I'm a big boy and I can handle it--I made a mistake. I'm getting on in years and mistakes seem to come more often these days. Fifty years ago--when I saw my first Falcon game--I never would have made such an error in grammer. Thanks to all of you who so graciously and with such kindness pointed out my error. Who says kindness, compassion, and civility are dead in American discourse! (You guys must be a hoot at Thanksgiving as you sit around the table laughing at Grandpa as he slobbers on his shirt.)

I'd also like to thank all those who pointed out the nagativity permeating my life. I never until yesterday understood how negative it was to think a 9 - 2 record might be OK. My bad again. Hey, I mistakenly thought splitting against four quality opponents, three of them on the road--with a defense that can't stop the run, has no secondary in combination with no pass rush--was probably going to be a pretty good outcome. But I have now seen the error of my ways, thanks to you good people. I now know that 9 - 2 is looking down at cracks or seeing the glass half empty. (Wait a minute--if 9 - 2 is half empty what is half full? 11 - 0? Wouldn't that be full full. I'm confused. I thought 6 - 5 was half empty or half full. Oh well, you guys will have to fill me in on that one so I don't utter any more ill conceived opinions.)

I must also apologize to all of you who I offended with my opinions. You know, untill yesterday I thought this was an open forum where opinions--everyone's opinions--were welcome. My bad again. I didn't fully understand that some opinions are not as worthy of consideration as other opinions. (I think I heard or read that somewhere.) I need to thank all of you for clarifying that point. If you would kindly--or at least as kindly as you pointed out my mistake in grammer--inform me of what opinions I should hold, I will gladly lace up my jackboots and goosestep around the flagpole of collective wisdom. I'd hate to offend anyone--especially given the courtesy you good people show others. So Again, thank you for kindly pointing out my mistake in grammer and setting me on the path to positive thinking. In fact, I'm on my way to a Power of Positive Thinking course and plan to pick up a thesaurus on the way. From a fifty year falcon fan--who doesn't plan on visiting the site again, or at least not until November when we can all see just how full that glass is--have a nice day and best wishes.
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Post by Jacobs4Heisman »

wow. chill. Just because we don't agree with you doesn't mean we think you're an idiot. Your opinion is just fine. It just isn't our opinion. No biggie. Perhaps a valium would be a good idea this morning.


Freak, I don't think I could complain about a 13 final ranking, a macc, a bowl win, and a lone loss at boise. I would still be the tiniest bit disappointed about what could've been, but a certainly couldn't complain. In fact I would do a happy dance.
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old guy wrote:My bad...I own it. I'm a big boy and I can handle it--I made a mistake. I'm getting on in years and mistakes seem to come more often these days. Fifty years ago--when I saw my first Falcon game--I never would have made such an error in grammer. Thanks to all of you who so graciously and with such kindness pointed out my error. Who says kindness, compassion, and civility are dead in American discourse! (You guys must be a hoot at Thanksgiving as you sit around the table laughing at Grandpa as he slobbers on his shirt.)

I'd also like to thank all those who pointed out the nagativity permeating my life. I never until yesterday understood how negative it was to think a 9 - 2 record might be OK. My bad again. Hey, I mistakenly thought splitting against four quality opponents, three of them on the road--with a defense that can't stop the run, has no secondary in combination with no pass rush--was probably going to be a pretty good outcome. But I have now seen the error of my ways, thanks to you good people. I now know that 9 - 2 is looking down at cracks or seeing the glass half empty. (Wait a minute--if 9 - 2 is half empty what is half full? 11 - 0? Wouldn't that be full full. I'm confused. I thought 6 - 5 was half empty or half full. Oh well, you guys will have to fill me in on that one so I don't utter any more ill conceived opinions.)

I must also apologize to all of you who I offended with my opinions. You know, untill yesterday I thought this was an open forum where opinions--everyone's opinions--were welcome. My bad again. I didn't fully understand that some opinions are not as worthy of consideration as other opinions. (I think I heard or read that somewhere.) I need to thank all of you for clarifying that point. If you would kindly--or at least as kindly as you pointed out my mistake in grammer--inform me of what opinions I should hold, I will gladly lace up my jackboots and goosestep around the flagpole of collective wisdom. I'd hate to offend anyone--especially given the courtesy you good people show others. So Again, thank you for kindly pointing out my mistake in grammer and setting me on the path to positive thinking. In fact, I'm on my way to a Power of Positive Thinking course and plan to pick up a thesaurus on the way. From a fifty year falcon fan--who doesn't plan on visiting the site again, or at least not until November when we can all see just how full that glass is--have a nice day and best wishes.
Other than the smart-ass comments from UK, nobody attacked you or your point. You certainly didn't offend me with your opinions, and many of us see your point. All of us hold differeing opinions, and the object of the thread is to express those opinions. Sometimes in doing so, we have to point out what we feel is a fallacy in someone elses arguements. Doesn't make your opinion wrong, but that is what a debate is all about. These forums are designed for expressing many different opinions. It would be rather boring if everyone posted the extreme brown and organce view of the world of FalconFreak, or the pessimism of Hammb (sorry guys, but I think you are two good examples, nor do I think that you only post in those terms either).
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old guy wrote:I never would have made such an error in grammer.
I'm sorry if I offended you with my joke pointing out that "unoptimistic" isn't a word. I'm perfectly fine with your opinion and respect the fact that you were willing to give it on AZZ. I welcome anyone who is willing to contribute to the website in an educated manner. Again, sorry if I offended you by making light of the word "unoptimistic". I meant it in fun, plus I'm kind of an a-hole anyway. BTW, you spelled grammar incorrectly. :wink:
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old guy wrote:Fifty years ago--when I saw my first Falcon game
Was Don Nehlen a good quarterback?

What is your take on Robert Whittaker?

Tell us some stories.

Pleeeease?
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This is probably going to sound crazy and get Hammb's panties up in a bundle (sorry bud, you're the knowledgable one), but I don't think I necessarily buy the big school/little school recruiting thing anymore. There seems to be so much parity out there right now and so much talent coming into the college football system that it everyone (except Eastern, maybe :wink: ) seems to be getting top-notch players, and the big schools don't seem to be as loaded as they were, say, 10 or 20 years ago.

Look at the Big Ten, for example. There was not one quarterback in the Big Ten last year that could even hold the jocks of 3-4 MAC quarterbacks. The same holds true for many other skill positions, I think. Sure, every now and then an OSU will pick up an Andy Katzenmoyer or a Ted Ginn that will blow people's minds, but it isn't as common of an occurrence as it used to be. You can't tell me that there are many O-linemen better than Kory Lichtensteiger (sp?).

The only caveat I will throw in here is that there does seem to be a lot less parity on the defensive side of the field. I think this is because a majority of "true" athletes would rather play offensively somewhere creating a dirth of extremely talented defenders. The secondary is truly the only area where I would say that big schools have an advantage over little schools. And, after watching us against Oklahoma last year, I'm not entirely convinced of how big that difference truly is.

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I forgot to add here that I don't think Tressel's appearance at our football camp will hurt our recruiting all that much. Still, it pisses me off. It pisses me off because all it is doing is perpetuating the myth in the minds of every slack-jawed, illiterate yokel in this state that OSU is some sort of professional franchise that they have to be fans of because they were born here. That is what really erks me. And yes, I do consider the Ohio media to be part of the "slack-jawed, illiterate yokel" category.

Sorry, had to make all of this tie into the thread somehow. :wink:
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Bleeding Orange wrote:Look at the Big Ten, for example. There was not one quarterback in the Big Ten last year that could even hold the jocks of 3-4 MAC quarterbacks.
Big Ten Offensive Player of The Year, and first year starting QB, Drew Tate might have something to say about that. Look for Tate to lead the Hawkeyes on a National Title run this upcoming season. He is the real deal- Harris running ability with Jacobs arm strength and accuracy.
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