Official: Temple on board on '06

[transfer2BGSU]

If we could just keep Toledo from going to bowl games....

Marshall taking that dive against Cincinnati last year was also embarrasing...

[Falcon30]

If we could just keep Toledo from going to bowl games....

Marshall taking that dive against Cincinnati last year was also embarrasing...

Not to mention the way they run their football program and their mouths.

Glad to be rid of them.

[BGSU-Ph.D.]

I found it interesting that this guy claimed the MAC is stronger than the Big East.

http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/ ... 90942.html

[Falcon30]

I found it interesting that this guy claimed the MAC is stronger than the Big East.

http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/ ... 90942.html

Verrry interesting. I loved this:

Now, there is a fine practice facility. There are home games at Lincoln Financial Field. There are rising enrollment and campus development and, at last, a stable situation in one of the premier conferences in Division I football.

this raised an eyebrow:

Now, with the television revenue and status that the MAC affords, Bradshaw made it clear that, when it comes to football, no one at Temple should be tilting at anything

C'mon Kent and EMU!!! What have you been doing with that 'status' and TV revenue!!!!

In all seriousness, the MAC has come a long, long way in the last 8-10 years.

[UK Peregrine]

I found it interesting that this guy claimed the MAC is stronger than the Big East.

http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/ ... 90942.html

We all love the PhillyBurbs.com and find everything interesting and intellectual, right 1987Alum.

[BGSU-Ph.D.]

I found it interesting that this guy claimed the MAC is stronger than the Big East.

http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/ ... 90942.html

We all love the PhillyBurbs.com and find everything interesting and intellectual, right 1987Alum.

I never claimed it to be an "intellectual" site. In particular, another article on the site about Temple coming to the MAC still lists Marshall and UCF as conference members.

[PGY Tiercel]

OK, Looks like we need to explain another post by UK.
'87Alum is an editor/contributor to with PhillyBurbs.com Every Now and then he posts and article he's written. The comment wasn't about what you posted, but rather just about Phillyburbs in general and '87s association with it.

[BGSU-Ph.D.]

OK, Looks like we need to explain another post by UK.
'87Alum is an editor/contributor to with PhillyBurbs.com Every Now and then he posts and article he's written. The comment wasn't about what you posted, but rather just about Phillyburbs in general and '87s association with it.

I followed that it was some kind of inside joke. I wasn't offended by the post, although the first line of my earlier post easily could be read that way.

[UK Peregrine]

OK, Looks like we need to explain another post by UK.
'87Alum is an editor/contributor to with PhillyBurbs.com Every Now and then he posts and article he's written. The comment wasn't about what you posted, but rather just about Phillyburbs in general and '87s association with it.

I followed that it was some kind of inside joke. I wasn't offended by the post, although the first line of my earlier post easily could be read that way.

Sorry about the confusion. I always seem to have some splaning to do. I was just being a kissa$$ to '87. No offense. I did see the UCF-Marshall thing you mentioned, but wasn't implying anything concerning that or other articles on the website.

[MiamiBando]

Does this not have to be approved by the MAC Presidents? I find it rather funny, that they didn't consult the MAC's top schools(Miami, BGSU, Toledo.) when deciding. I wonder how the AD's and Prez's vote. I'll bet Miami votes against. In fact I KNOW that is true. There is serious talk of Miami bolting from the MAC. If you take note of the DRASTIC improvements to the Athletic facilities(First in 2009 not withstanding) then all evidence points to Miami leaving. Maybe Chryst is seeing the signs, and is trying to keep the MAC even...

[UK Peregrine]

Does this not have to be approved by the MAC Presidents? I find it rather funny, that they didn't consult the MAC's top schools(Miami, BGSU, Toledo.) when deciding. I wonder how the AD's and Prez's vote. I'll bet Miami votes against. In fact I KNOW that is true. There is serious talk of Miami bolting from the MAC. If you take note of the DRASTIC improvements to the Athletic facilities(First in 2009 not withstanding) then all evidence points to Miami leaving. Maybe Chryst is seeing the signs, and is trying to keep the MAC even...

WTF are you talking about Are you just making crap up for the hell of it?

[transfer2BGSU]

Does this not have to be approved by the MAC Presidents?

It was.

[Schadenfreude]

Does this not have to be approved by the MAC Presidents? I find it rather funny, that they didn't consult the MAC's top schools(Miami, BGSU, Toledo.) when deciding. I wonder how the AD's and Prez's vote. I'll bet Miami votes against. In fact I KNOW that is true. There is serious talk of Miami bolting from the MAC. If you take note of the DRASTIC improvements to the Athletic facilities(First in 2009 not withstanding) then all evidence points to Miami leaving. Maybe Chryst is seeing the signs, and is trying to keep the MAC even...

WTF are you talking about Are you just making crap up for the hell of it?

No, but he is touching on a few rumors that have been circulating rather quietly lately.

A run through:

Lots of people in Miami country -- including some of the more level-headed fans -- are saying Miami is unhappy with the addition of Temple. Apparently, the athletic department also believes it was not properly consulted before Chryst went ahead and held the news conference.

It may be that Chryst worked ADs and presidents (who ultimately make the call on decisions like expansion, not ADs) until he got to the nine or ten votes he needed, and that Miami was not one of them.

Incidentally, I tend to think that, despite what MiamiBando is saying, that Bowling Green believes it was properly consulted. If not, people would be popping off about it here, and I don't detect that.

As far as teams bolting: There are a few shards of rumors, but they have little to do with Miami's facilities as far as I can tell.

Some believe Miami and Toledo would consider bolting if they can find the right situation, and that Chryst's addition of Temple and Western Kentucky (not announced, but likely in my opinion) is, in part, insurance for the MAC in case that were to happen.

(Incidentally, I don't think Conference USA is the right situation for a MAC school. But the Big East probably would be.)

That talk has increased with the addition of Temple. Miami and Toledo fans tend to be angrier than most about it and are popping off lately about leaving.

Many think the football and non-football schools in the Big East will probably break apart in a few years. That's what's driving a lot of this talk.

The idea of Toledo bolting matches up well against the way UT board of trustees president Dan Brennan was popping off to The Blade after Bowling Green was picked for the GMAC Bowl.

It also matches up well with the way Toledo's AD talked with the Toledo Free Press (April 7, 2005) about another big conference shake up likely in three to five years. In that interview, he did not take the possibility of leaving the MAC completely off the table.

Also, one level-headed fan tells me that Miami, Toledo, Bowling Green and Ohio have quietly agreed to sort try to stick together and look for opportunties when the next big shake up comes. Miami and Ohio, in particular, have supposedly spoken about trying to form a new conference if it could be done.

Some of this makes sense to me. Some of it doesn't.

I believe the part about Miami, Toledo, Bowling Green and Ohio trying to stick together if possible.

But I'm not sure any of this would necessarily end well for Bowling Green if a big shake up really does come. It seems more likely (at least to me) that a Big East or a Conference USA would want to plug one or two MAC schools -- if that -- rather than take four as a package.

And if the Big East were to call offering two slots, I could see Miami and/or Toledo throwing us under the bus pretty quickly.

Bottom line: I see risks that Bowling Green could be left in a severely diluted MAC in the next big shake up ...

... unless the four of us, working together and perhaps with one or two other MAC schools, are able to pry a couple of schools away from other leagues and start something completely new.

The possibilities are too numerous to try to detail right now.

I don't want to dwell on any of this. I continue to think the best thing for Bowling Green is a strong MAC, and a lot of the talk is in the deep rumor stage right now.

But that's some of what he seems to be referring to.

[UK Peregrine]

Thanks Shade for elaborating. That makes a little more sense. I was referring more to Bandos comment about the MAC presidents not being consulted, like adding Temple to the MAC was some covert operation that Miami was unaware of. Still the sheer number of rumors in your post is quite daunting. This all becomes moot though when BG makes a BCS bowl. Or does it. Then we would likely be rumored to be leaving the MAC. Don't you just love messageboards and rumors. This is fun stuff. Any news on when's Miami going to be a private school, anytime soon?

[PGY Tiercel]

Thanks Shade for elaborating. That makes a little more sense. I was referring more to Bandos comment about the MAC presidents not being consulted, like adding Temple to the MAC was some covert operation that Miami was unaware of. Still the sheer number of rumors in your post is quite daunting. This all becomes moot though when BG makes a BCS bowl. Or does it. Then we would likely be rumored to be leaving the MAC. Don't you just love messageboards and rumors. This is fun stuff. Any news on when's Miami going to be a private school, anytime soon?

I heard they were going to dump that "ivy league of the mid-west" crap and actually join the Ivy League. While there football team might clean up house, their fan support would prefer to be able to talk about J-crews new fall fashions while tailgating and during halftime.